Understanding America’s Plan and Venezuela’s Possible Submission

We could start referring to Trump as President Pedophile Pirate. That might get people talking a little about the Pedophilia again.

If the ChinaGov sees that the Miller ( trumpenvance) Administration is indeed speeding the end of US Empire, why would the ChinaGov want to intervene to prevent Trump Regime coercion of Venezuela? The ChinaGov would gain more by letting the Trump Regime convert American soft power all the way into American smelly repulsiveness. When enough of the CountryGovs of the world are screaming ” China! Save us!” , then the ChinaGov can pick the best time, place, ways and means to do so at least cost to itself.

I have read that American Gulf Coast refineries were designed and built specifically to process Venezuelan heavy sour crude oil and so that oil would indeed be valuable to those refineries in particular. Americans who disapprove of this piracy policy might well want to figure out which companies handle the products refined out of this particular type of oil and boycott those particular-sourced products as best as they are able. Limit their oil-products purchasing to companies which are not selling product from those heavy-oil refineries on the Gulf of Canada coast. This is where researchers and trackers could be useful by studying and laying out where exactly products from those refineries are going and posting that information all over everywhere as a guide to people who wish to avoid it.

And if one is afraid of censorship, it is easy enough to “reverse psychologize” the information. Simply pretend to be in total support of Trump’s liberation of Venezuela and name every oil company selling product derived from this oil in those refineries so that all True Magas can buy those products. Magas won’t know what to buy and where to buy it if names aren’t named.

the question becomes is what does Canada do? Our current cadre of elites seem very slow to pick up on what needs to be done and have not done anything to protect this country.

we seem very fucked.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen, Iran, Venezuela, Panama, …

Countries without nuclear deterrence get Epsteined, assaulted, raped, and exploited by the US/West for their natural resources or not-yet-fully-developed natural resources (natural gas offshore of Gaza, oil discoveries offshore of Venezuela/Guyana)

next in line: Greenland, Canada, …

“First they went after Libya, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t from there. Then they went after Syria, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t from there. Then they went after Venezuela, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t from there. …. Then they went after Greenland, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t from there. Then they came for Canada, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me.”

The US bombs Germany’s critical natural gas pipelines, and Germany quietly submits, even though it went against all their interests.

Have Denmark and Canada condemned the US high seas piracy, thuggery, and dead-of-night abduction of Maduro? When that abduction happened, Canada’s Carney, in fact, actually used the words “welcomes the opportunity”, even though, over the long term, this Trumpepstein pimp assault and subjugation of Venezuela goes against Canada’s interests and will decrease Canada’s oil exports to the US and lower the price of those exports.

The Europeans and Canadians meanwhile pour ever more weapons and billions of taxpayer money (deficit-spending so debt, borrowed with interest) into Ukraine that has already been thoroughly used and exploited as a plaything by the US/West.

Instead of this “coalition of the willing” (coalition of the insane) talking about putting troops in Ukraine, shouldn’t Europe and Canada be talking about putting troops into Greenland? Isn’t it in Canada’s interest to strongly condemn what Trumpepstein is doing to make Venezuela submit, knowing that we’re also being eyed on the US menu?

“Instead of this “coalition of the willing” (coalition of the insane) talking about putting troops in Ukraine, shouldn’t Europe and Canada be talking about putting troops into Greenland? Isn’t it in Canada’s interest to strongly condemn what Trumpepstein is doing to make Venezuela submit, knowing that we’re also being eyed on the US menu?”

More likely, what will happen is that Denmark will agree to some kind of figleaf “protectorate” or dual sovereignty (like Western Sahara), with Greenland’s status “to be decided later” (nudge nudge wink wink).

The backhander of course, will be further American assistance in The War On Russia. The Danish political class would gladly give up Greenland if that were the price of getting the Americans to fight WWIII for them.

And of course, if the Americans get cold feet, europe can always revisit their hitherto unflagging support for Israel.

I don’t think the US needs heavy Venezuelan crude for much of anything, those refineries are mostly using Alberta tar sands stuff instead these days. Venezuelan exports to the US have been near zero for some time now. I suppose it’s possible someone in the American administration wants to nobble Venezuela and get the Venezuelan crude so they can then have more leverage against Canada . . . but problaby not someone in the TOP tier of Trumpies because I don’t think any of them can handle an idea that complex, except maybe Vought and he doesn’t care about foreign affairs.

I think analyzing what Venezuela is likely to do based largely on stuff Trump says has a fundamental flaw: Nearly everything Trump ever says is a lie. Of course he’s going to say the Venezuelan administration is rolling over for him–he always says everyone is rolling over for him, it feeds his ego and it sows fear and doubt in his opponents.

“… there will be a mad scramble of nuclear proliferation. (Should have happened long ago, but people didn’t want to admit the US was an evil overlord.)”

Is there any reason why Canada has not started developing nuke yet?

Trump has already said Canada will be a US state. If both Venezuela and Greenland, he will come for Canada next, and the military option will not be off the table.

“We’ll see if Putin has the guts.”

I will be very, very surprised if he does. I don’t think China will do anything, either. As you say, it’s obvious that America is collapsing in on itself. Why rock the boat when what you want to happen is happening anyway?

Out of curiosity, what do you think the most important commodity is if not oil? I think it still is by a mile; everything, including the “green” “revolution,” depends on it, still.

“Is there any reason why Canada has not started developing nuke yet?”

Presumably because America hasn’t told them to? Lol.

1. Only ~2-5% of China’s CRUDE oil imports in 2024-5 came from Venezuela, so that should be ~0.5-3% of China’s OVERALL oil imports.

2. Venezuela is not existential or even important to China.

3. Venezuela would be more useful to China as a sink to bleed American attention, life, money and resources, than a source of energy/oil import.

4. Venezuelans will defeat America and win in a protracted insurgency and guerilla warfare.

5. However, the current regime in Venezuela will not survive. It will fall immediately or soon after the US sends in ground forces to “awe and shock” Venezuela… but the aftermath — the inevitable insurgency and resistance against a foreign occupation — will eventually defeat, drain and expel America.

6. For an incumbent elite in Venezuela, who wins eventually does not matter. They are only interested in staying in power.

7. They will sell out their country and throw China under the bus to avoid a U.S. ground invasion = regime collapse.

As a lot of people pointed it out, Venezuelan heavy oil is specifically what the American Gulf Coast refineries require. (Those are the bulk of the US refining capacity).

Does the US need it? Not in the long run. However at the moment, the country is exporting most of the oil it produces (mostly “light oil”), as its own infrastructure is more “heavy oil” focused.

So in essence, this is good old fashioned subsidization of existing US industry, an imperial intervention a’la what was done at the behest of the United Fruit Comapany.

It’s larger than all of that. The elephant in the room is Growth. Growth is paramount to civilization. It’s the one true religion. Growth is divine. Growth is God. Trump is right for the wrong reasons — Green is brown. You know something isn’t right and it doesn’t add up when Wall Street embraces Green.

Fyi, I will have a video up today or tomorrow about what a good guy PL was. It’s relevant to the discussion regarding Venezuela and Latin America and South America. Maybe I will title it, with ML in mind naturally, With Allies Like This, Who ………..

I love all this talk about how all the other countries should make massive investments in weapons, including building nukes, to deter the US.

Maybe the American populace should GROW A BACKBONE and do something to stop this bullshit. The thing that’s driving anti-American sentiment among the part of the Canadian populace that matters isn’t the stupid policies – we understand how narrowly based those are. We’re becoming more anti-American because we have contempt for a populace that is so easily cowed and has its collective thumb so far up its collective ass.

Ian Welsh

There’s plenty of oil in the world. It’s not scarce and it’s being moved away from, hard, by the only nation which matters: China.

Wrong on all three statements.

1) The world has been able to pump out more oil at the cost of launching into fracking and deep sea oil, but that doesn’t mean that the end isn’t near. You don’t go to war to secure oil supplies after the real peak, you do it before that.

And the US specifically has a huge such problem because the fracking might indeed be finally approaching that exhaustion point.

As usual with such projections, the people who predict peak of production are always wrong in their timing on the side of being too pessimistic. But because there is that pesky thing called laws of conservation of energy and matter, they are always right in the long term.

2) China is not moving away from fossil fuels. They are adding renewables and nuclear to an expanding fossil fuel consumption. Because at that level of economic growth that is the only way to support it. Look at the actual numbers. They are building 30 nuclear reactors and yet the share of nuclear is projected to remain constant for decades.

3) And most important — the nation that matters here is the US. Because if the US is not moving away from oil, and it isn’t, then it will go to war against the whole world to secure it. Which is precisely what we are witnessing now.

This is about BRICs and the petrodollar

Just like in Libya–well not ‘just’ like…

It was Vijay Prashad that dropped that concept on us a few days ago and yep the US just cannot allow any alternative to their extract machine

Interesting connection noted at Mahablog recently: Zillionaire & Trump donor Paul Singer bought Citgo in November:

https://popular.info/p/venezuela-raid-enriches-maga-billionaire

(linked from…
https://www.mahablog.com/2026/01/05/who-needs-a-plan/

Citgo was owned by Venezuela until USA just took it via Lawfare. The rump Corp owns some of those Gulf Coast refineries that were designed to process Venezuelan heavy crude.

Perhaps we should cheer on a u.s. seizure of Greenland. Take the longer-term view, breaking up the u.s. bloc can’t be a bad thing. Can it?

1. That anyone is hoping for any resistance from Venezuela shows that they are grasping at straws here.

2. “the question becomes is what does Canada do?”

Bend over, of course. This should give you an idea of the fearsome Canadian resistance tactics:

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/future-canadian-resistance-tactics

3. “Even a rat will fight back against a terrier.”

They certainly will fight a cat. Humans, however, lack the noble spirit of the rat.

In terms of understanding America’s plan, it may in part be a desperate move to try to stop the de-dollarization snowball that continues growing:

“World banking system expert Richard Werner writes on what the Venezuelan ops mean for the petrodollar system:

The US coup in Venezuela is also to help the petrodollar system, established by Henry Kissinger’s 1974 deal with Saudi Arabia requiring global oil sales in USD, which creates artificial demand for the currency & funds American hegemony – but which has been in its death throes.

Venezuela, with the world’s largest oil reserves, challenged the $ by selling oil in yuan, euros, rubles, bypassing the $, & building alternative payment channels with China.

Historical precedents include the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in Iraq for switching to euros, Muammar Gaddafi in Libya for proposing a gold-backed dinar. See my report on the Saudi petro dolla deal at [Substack].

The invasion counters accelerating global de-dollarization led by Russia, China, Iran, and BRICS, as nations shift to non-dollar settlements and alternatives to SWIFT.

But it signals desperation, potentially hastening the petrodollar’s decline as the Global South resents US reliance on military force to maintain currency dominance.”

from https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/major-questions-finally-answered

These lines from the Independent, via nakedcapitalism’s “Trump’s Gangsterism Escalation”, seem to add weight to that view:

“U.S. officials say the Trump administration plans to control Venezuela’s oil indefinitely in order to force the country to act in America’s interests.

Energy Secretary Wright said the U.S. would market stored Venezuelan oil first and then sell future production indefinitely, with revenues deposited into accounts controlled by the U.S.President Donald Trump has also announced that Venezuela will only purchase “American-made” products with the money made from its oil deal with America.”

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2026/01/trumps-gangsterism-escalation-plans-to-steal-and-sell-venezuela-oil-seizure-of-russian-and-chinese-tankers-greenlight-of-maximum-pressure-sanctions-venezuela-and-denmark-not-on-board-with-heists.html

from the same link, according to the NYT:

“The White House press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, asked whether and how the U.S. will “run” Venezuela as President Trump has vowed, told reporters that the Trump administration was “in close coordination with” Venezuela’s interim authorities, and that “their decisions are going to be dictated by the United States of America.”

Western establishment media propaganda always first demonize a government the US seeks to overthrow by referring to them exclusively as “regime” instead of “government”, and demonize a leader the US wants to overthrow by constantly referring to them as “dictator”. But the fact is that it is the United States that is always trying to be the dictator of the world – or maybe “only” “their” half of the world now:

The US dictates to other peoples who they are allowed to choose as their leaders, what form of government they can have, dictates who they can sell their resources to or not, and dictates that their resources can only be sold in US dollars, that must then be stored only in US banks, US Treasury bonds, or US stocks – ready to be seized by the US at any time – and that their revenue can then be used to buy only American exports.

@cc: This is not desperation at all. This is simply the empire dropping any remaining pretense that it is anything other than an empire.

It is now strong enough and unchallenged enough that it can do whatever it wants, sort of like a pimp who has that poor runaway teenaged girl trapped in a motel room far from home and far from anyone she knows, no money and no way out.

That pimp no longer needs to pretend to be a cool guy just trying to help a young girl out but something much more sinister, and her ass better get on that track.

See also: Epstein, J.

different clue:

I don’t think they care to make the distinction. The U.S. is just not dependable or predictable any way you cut it anymore. If, it ever was.

@Feral Finster #36, thanks, agree that the US under Trump is dropping its usual pretenses that it would previously try to frame and cover its gangster tactics with. Western media is getting all tied up in its convolutions to try to keep its myths, narratives and propaganda believable despite all the contradictions with its past lies.

Also agree with the pimp and young girl / Epstein exploitation metaphor that I was also alluding to in my first comment #5.

Within that position of power dynamic, sure, it’s not the US gangster/predator/pimp that’s desperate but the poor country, in this Venezuela, that’s in his clutches and that the pimp and his gang have been isolating, beating, and starving with sanctions till she learns to submit and do everything he wants.

But in the larger context of de-dollarization, China and Russia, BRICS/SCO, the Belt & Road initiative, Eurasia, multipolarity, aspirations of a fairer more equitable world, the concept of a global community of shared future (ex. https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/09/chinas-shared-future.html), the recent downsizing to the Western Hemisphere / Fortress America that we are witnessing, and all that Ian has been writing about, the Empire and its elites may well be getting desperate, and, unfortunately, we can probably expect many more such moves.

Some updates as of midday Thursday the 8th: The Rs bowed to the MAGA Base and voted with the Congress D’s that Trumpy can’t attack Venezuela again without permission, vote in the Senate expected to be the same. They’ve also voted against 2 of his vetos in collusion against him.

Venezuela was meant to dampen the Epstein coverup but it didn’t work with the MAGA base. Unlike the Dimmie saps, these people have self-respect (whether deserved or not) and push back when they are stabbed in the back. I think there is starting to be some realization that Donnie is non copus mentus and selling lies and failure. PLG’s comment is insightful, I don’t think the Venezuelans want to starve and die quietly and Chavismo is still alive. The cynic defeatists can gibe and taunt all they want, it’s the little dog barking at the passing caravan.

Today Aleister Crook with Glenn Diesen covered that during Bibi’s visit, Trump was told to get on board with another attack on Iran, sure to be fake (on the US’s part) or a failure and hopefully the Iranians will flatten Tel Aviv and large sections of the Zionist Entity, not walk away from the battlefield quietly this time. (We’ll see. They’d be suicidal to back away.)

Previously I compared Hair Drumpf to an arsonist with the world’s largest gas can. In the last 48 hours he’s proven so by seizing (with the yapping Brits) a Russian oil tanker with lies about it’s flagging legality, there were Russian subs in the area but they didn’t fire on the pirates. This is too much restraint by far, I am with the cynics on this one. And he had a Chinese tanker grabbed as well. Mercouris tries to rationalize a bit and claims today the Russians have started direct attacks on US assets inside Ukraine. Good but too limited response if true. If Putin doesn’t get a little less passive I’d hope that Medvedev or some real hard-liner comes to power. I already noted that viz the yapping slug Brits, just landing one Oreshnik near Buckingham Palace would clarify their hubris. They have a cassus belli after recent events, hell they have 100 of them against perfidious Albion in the view of anyone who has paid attention.

A good talk between Danny Haiphong and the awkwardly named Stanislav Krapivnik today. Ethnically Russian he served in the US military some decades back and made some obvious points, e.g.– when he was in the service decades ago, soldiers had 1% rates of obesity and today it is over 40%, women soldiers as boots on the ground are rarely large or hardy enough to hang in there, and the US military’s size isn’t big enough to invade anywhere larger than Greenland or Iceland.

I expect China has plans to crush the US economy quickly or as quickly as possible. I’m not too worried about the Venezuelans, I think they are not and will never be Imperial puppets. Getting somewhat concerned that Putin is no longer up to the job, has been in power too long and is too much part of the global elites.

When the “surgical” (sic) kidnapping of Maduro went down I briefly wondered if all the Globalists are united in deception and Kayfabe. Or if this whole reality is “a simulation” (only a passing thought, I’m not going there.) Here’s the reason the shitheels in office might be reining in Trump: he is destroying the Globalist order and “Free Trade” (sic) as well as US “credibility” right before their very eyes, and they won’t be getting their cuts in the future. I think the fat, senile, naked (or diapered) Emperor may be allowed a war in Greenland, small and easy to steal. For bigger WW III projects, I think some people are losing their hubris.

@Nat Wilson Turner

I’d say that’s basically right, especially, for diesel. Media often speak of “oil” as if it were the same stuff everywhere and that’s not the case. The “good” oils are either gone or going. Venezuelan oil is certainly not the best (they require a lot of work) but you can extract an average ~15% – 25% diesel fraction from Venezuela’s heavy oils. That’s a lot and diesel, which is basically the blood of heavy duty machinery and industry… and military, is starting to be a problem for countries all over the world, e.g. Bolivia and, interestingly, Nigeria… and even Iran… It’ll eventually reach the West. Worldwide, diesel production currently fluctuates around 10% – 15% below its peak in 2015-2017. The US currently export light fuels (but fracking is close to exhaustion) while importing heavy ones. It consumes (actually mainly wastes) about 1 fifth of the global consumption of oil… AND Venezuela also has rare earths and gold… Looting! Yahoo!

Anyway, I might of course be wrong, but I suspect Chavismo and more generally Venezuela is going to be a tougher nut to crack than the Yankees think. Even if I’m right, that won’t be easy… and Colombia and the Cuba are next in line. Honduras elections were recently blatantly robbed and its USAn military base will soon be enhanced. One air base was re-opened in the Dominican Republic, another one in Puerto Rico AND both countries’ commercial airports along with Trinidad and Tobago’s facilities were used for the kidnaperation… Poor Americas. Anyway the Agent Orangeutan (aka PPP, i.e. President Pedophile Pirate – thanks, Different Clue!) is just a symptom.

“Il vecchio mondo sta morendo. Quello nuovo tarda a comparire. Ed in questo chiaroscuro nascono i mostri.” – Antonio Gramsci (The old world is dying. The new one is slow to emerge. And in this chiaroscuro, monsters are born.)

@Egoculexegonos

Thank you for the kind word. I have another 3-P acronym . . . President Pedophile Piggy . . . a shout-out to his insulting that journalist. Perhaps both could be used interchangeably and see which sticks in what minds.

About Trump being a symptom, that is true. But sometimes a symptom can be a problem in itself. For example, before the modern anti-retroviral drugs, HIV conferred a long slow death as it degraded and attrited the immune system down to zero. That was the primary disease and the opportunistic infections were a symptom, but some of those opportunistic infections could be fast-forward lethal in themselves; such as Pneumocystis pneumonia.
https://www.cdc.gov/pneumocystis-pneumonia/about/index.html

Fulminant trumpitis will compress a hundred years of decline into 2 or so years. And a long-term weakened US will also be subject to other opportunistic political infections . . . White Power Christianitis, Silicon Valley Techbrosis, etc.

America’s long bout with Malignant Metastatic Clintonoma and Yersiniobama pestis has left America weakened at every level, to be sure; and vulnerable to infection by Fulminant trumpitis to begin with.