is ironic in a number of ways.
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— Deeda Weeda aka DMAN 🇵🇸 (@DeemTheDreem) November 27, 2025
As Sun Tzu pointed out about two and a half millenia ago, you should always treat traitors well. Never really trust them, but treat them well, because if people know you don’t, they won’t betray. (And be clear, this man was a traitor to his own country.)
To cap it off it turns out that he was a highly trained murderer. Highly trained murderers with shitty morals (most of them) need to be treated very carefully. Either take care of them well or kill them. At the very least, don’t bring them into your country and then abandon them to a shitty racist society without any support. (Aka. give them a job. There are tons of meaningless well paid government jobs. Give people like this one, plus a nice health care plan.)
Fortunately (or is that unfortunately?) he was in a rage and killed two national guardsmen, who while obviously willing to kill for Empire (like him, but probably less so) had no real power or responsibility for what happened to him. If he’d been thinking straight he would have gone after a politician or admin official. Even easier, a lot of the people responsible for how he was mishandled are no longer elected officials or high admin officers and thus have no real protection.
Seems a bit silly to kill a couple of peons. The people responsible won’t give a damn, they’re just talking points. But if it was one of them?
Not, of course, that I would ever condone extra-judicial murder of people who are responsible for a stupid, hopeless war and thus all the deaths, murders, rapes, torture, starvation and homelessness a stupid, hopeless war entails.
Anyway, treat traitors well, but never trust them. Sun Tzu knew. If I were a member of the elite, I’d be wondering if the next pissed off veteran, foreign born or not, will connect the dots and decide to go after actual responsible parties. Perhaps jobs should be found for them, and health care, just out of self-interest?
Oh, and do note that he did not kill civilians. That makes this act, in at least one way, morally superior to 95% of the decisions made to use violence by elected members of Congress and every administration official of my lifetime.
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mago
A rather convenient deflection for Trump and regime at a critical juncture, but sure, a serpent will bite its handler, if that’s what really happened.
We’ll see how it plays out.
Stormy weather in the forecast.
Mark Pontin
Europe has some interesting times ahead when the Ukraine conflict ends and the betrayed, highly-trained killers there stream west.
Already, for decades before now, the majority of what people called Russia mafias in the West were in fact Ukrainian and every businessman I ever knew who had to travel to the country for any kind of transaction hired a bodyguard if they had sense.
Carborundum
I don’t think either of these guys should be considered traitors to their country for fighting with the US against the Taliban. (Bluntly, the Taliban are assholes and the incarnation from the period when these guys were combatants was a collection of particularly gaping assholes.)
That said, given the way the country works, I don’t think anyone fighting for their social / ethnic block should be considered a traitor, either. There’s not a whole lot of “there” to be traitor *to* and if you’re not willing to go to guns when needed, you and yours are not going to last long.
mago
Yeah Mark Pontin, the Ukie mafia Nazis often mistaken as Ruskies are some scary mofos and they’re everywhere you can launder money and deal arms and drugs.
All pervasive in other words.
KT Chong
Last year, Biden — on behalf of Israel — tried to strong-arm Japan, India, and South Korea into taking Palestinian refugees from Gaza. i.e., the U.S. wanted to offload Israel’s mess onto its vassals and proxies. When they refused, Biden got upset and called them “xenophobic.”
It’s the ultimate American wet dreams:
• Wage foreign wars using other people’s blood, not Americans’ (Ukraine).
• Invade, occupy, loot, and destroy a country, then dodge the human consequences by dumping refugees on other nations.
So, the U.S. wants to projects military and power abroad while externalizing the cost — human, social, and economic — onto others.
Nay. You break it, you buy it.
Reference: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/02/biden-japan-india-xenophobic-immigration (which is only half the story)
NGG
Sadly, and I do mean Sadly — those who supported the U. S. Should have been treated much better. Not to presume – but his situation was probably ,not very good economically. Thus resentment. And a tiny amount of U.S. support on the mainland would have gone along way. Typical of U.S foreign policy, not to be trusted in the long run, for those assisting in foreign wars. I am sure we will find out more soon regarding motive. In the meantime, a great excuse for the current administration to ban all immigration, except for the rich from South Africa. Well at least we gave 40 Billion to Argentina.. The stupidity is mind boggling.
KT Chong
Connecting the dots with common sense and intuition:
• Just before Biden’s visits to Japan, India, and South Korea, Israel had been attempting to get other countries — especially in Europe — to resettle Palestinians from Gaza amid the ongoing genocide. Those efforts largely failed, as widely reported in the media.
• The U.S., and Biden in particular, has historically done Israel’s biddings. It’s plausible that, frustrated by the lack of international cooperation, Israel lobbied Biden to accept Palestinian refugees into the U.S.
• However, mass immigration had become a highly contentious issue during the election year, so Biden could not openly resettle Palestinian refugees domestically. He needed an alternative solution.
• Biden then visited Japan and India (and South Korea in related contexts).
• Immediately following these visits, he publicly labeled these countries “xenophobic” for not welcoming migrants and refugees.
• Based on the timing, sequence of events, and logical deduction: Biden attempted to persuade Japan and India to accept Palestinian refugees. Their refusal prompted his public expression of diplomatic frustration.
Failed Scholar
America is literally too stupid to follow this advice, and too far up it’s own ass to realize that dumping these displaced, damaged, or outright psychotic people into the hellscape that is America without proper support or, as you say, some kind of bullshit job is just mind boggling. Imagine working for the Americans in Afghanistan, losing everything as a result and being airdropped into America and told to pull yourself up by the bootstraps. “Aren’t you just sooooo grateful to be in ‘Murica, land of the Free™?” The last time this happened a few months ago (see Jamal Wali) that was such a common refrain amongst American commenters I couldn’t help rolling my eyes every time. Almost as delusional as the “Diversity is Our Strength!” brigade.
The Jamal Wali incident: “Americans are liars and vicious people…..I should have served with the fucking Taliban…” https://youtu.be/1x4H91MZH_A?t=255
Mark Level
As to Carborundum’s post, see Jamal Wali’s statement in Failed Scholar’s post just above. He was a traitor to his people, & by the time he did the shooting he regretted his horrible judgment, as Wali did.
I could be called a race traitor by some; I’m only 10% Hispanic/Sardinian but I identify more with that culture than I do the “white” one— proud to be Irish though, we’re tough people; proud to be somewhat French, they have good aesthetics, film, wine, etc. even if some are snobbish and don’t bathe often, just ashamed to have German blood, a culture of brutes. I’m not planning on signing up for any inter-ethnic wars however, Tribalism is sick and stupid. I have a Puerto Rican sister-in-law who admitted to me she mainly married my brother coz he’s (very) white and would do economically better than people of her own color. Kind of shallow, and in many ways I know she regrets it.
Something nobody mentions above is that this poor sap was a child soldier, they signed him up for pay when he was 14 or 15. You can’t blame a child that age for making a very bad choice, but it obviously caught up with him. I have shared on here before that when my girlfriend and I were traveling across Guatemala in 1983, child soldiers forced us off the bus we were on, and it was pretty terrifying. Not that they were hostile to us personally as gringos, but their semi-automatics were the same size as they were, they were likely illiterate and poorly (if at all) trained and thus dangerous to everyone in their purview.
A lot of people are puppets to circumstances, and he is only one of millions. Stephen Miller and Trump will use this to brutalize domestic Afghanis, send them to Cecot or whatever so it’s a tragedy all around.
The Right has no problem with mass shootings as long as the perpetrator is white and male of course (unless he shoots soldiers or cops, warriors for the 1%). Think of the psychopath who killed 58 people in a parking lot below his hotel in Las Vegas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting
This was during Trump’s 1st administration and obviously nobody was punished (except victims and their families), ho-hum, no need to restrict guns or prevent random mass-shootings, we love the 2nd Amendment just like we love “fetuses” until they’re born, and our troops, and the predatory billionaires. Sick, hateful militarism, alongside torture, is as American as mom, apple pie, and Thanksgiving. (Our guns wiped out most of those who saved some pilgrims.)