For all that Iran has been mopping the floor with the U.S., Israel, and the Gulf States, things have come to a precarious point.
While Iran has been mopping the floor strategically with the U.S., Israel, and the Gulf States, a Saudi-Pakistani military alliance could enter the fray on the U.S. side and make a difference.
This from Ian’s post of the 12th made my Spidey Sense tingle:
Pakistan used (the ceasefire) to reposition military to Saudi Arabia, and Iran doesn’t want a war with Pakistan.
That said, Pakistan’s taking a real risk here, domestically, ninety percent of Pakistanis support Iran, and the country is one spark from a revolution anyway. The army, of course, will gun down any number of civilians to retain control, but even so…
Plus the US has snared another Sunni-majority country in their military web, Indonesia:
In a joint statement, the US Defense Department and Indonesia’s Defense Ministry said the agreement reflects “decades of cooperation” and a shared commitment to peace, security, and respect for sovereignty.
“Both countries recognize each other as important partners and reaffirm their commitment to cooperation based on mutual respect, sovereignty, and shared interest in regional peace and stability,” the statement said.
Per the statement, the pact rests on three core pillars: military modernization and capacity building, training and professional military education, and exercises and operational cooperation.
Earlier Monday, US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth met with his Indonesian counterpart Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin at the Pentagon to discuss efforts to boost the bilateral defense relationship.
Indonesia could potentially supply a LOT of ground forces for an attack on Iran, but I’m not sure their population would be into the idea.
Andrew Korybko has more on the US’ strategic aims for the Indonesia alliance:
it was reported that “US, Indonesia discuss allowing US military overflight in Indonesian airspace”, which refers to a “preliminary draft that is being discussed internally” right now, but the writing is on the wall that the US aims to leverage their MDCP to this end. The purpose appears to be obtaining the ability to blockade the Strait of Malacca to Chinese ships in the event of a crisis just like it’s now blockading the Strait of Hormuz to ships that almost all go back and forth between China and Iran.
The grand strategic goal being pursued is Under Secretary of War Elbridge Colby’s “Strategy of Denial”. The gist is that the US must do its utmost to prevent Chinese hegemony in Asia, in furtherance of which it’s indirectly controlling or cutting off Chinese resource imports (Venezuela and Iran) and seeking control over global chokepoints (Hormuz, Malacca, and the Panama Canal), with everything accelerating ahead of Trump’s trip to China from 14-15 May. Trump hopes that this will coerce Xi into a lopsided trade deal.
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A nascent coalition of Turkey-Egypt-Saudi Arabia-Pakistan could decide that Iran is on the verge of destroying Israel and decide to jump in against Israel to claim a big part of the prize.
The post-script of Bruce O’Hara’s most recent Substack newsletter made it all come together for me:
While it must be said that Iran doesn’t have many friends across the Middle East, many nations have depended on Iran to restrain Israel’s expansionist tendencies. The nations of the Middle East do not want the war to end with Iran destroyed and Israel intact. If it becomes clear that Israel is almost out of offensive and defensive weaponry, it would serve the interests of Turkey, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, and Jordan to gang up on a weakened Israel. Turkey’s Ergodan just today compared Netenyahu to Hitler. That’s Iran’s other hope: if they can deplete Israel enough to be relatively defenceless, Israel’s neighbours will suddenly find their courage.
Pakistan’s role as the mediator was no accident and reflects their remarkable geo-strategic positioning.
Three key facts about Pakistan to keep in mind:
- The current regime has limited popular legitimacy
Former Prime Minister Imran Khan was overthrown with US backing (he attempted neutrality in the Russia-Ukraine War, his replacements sent huge arms shipments to Ukraine) in 2022 and replaced by the current regime fronted by Shehbaz Sharif. Khan, one of the most popular politicians in the country’s history was then railroaded on all kinds of charges, trumped up and otherwise, and has been in solitary confinement. Khan’s wikipedia page is an exercise in slander but the awfulness of the story still shines through. This makes it very tricky for the Shenbaz Sharif - Pakistan has India relatively diplomatically isolated
Pakistan was at war with India its fellow nuclear power as recently as May of last year and its partisans have vociferously claimed complete victory — with lots of credit being given to their Chinese-built Chengdu J-10C fighter jets. Somehow Pakistan has managed to maintain close ties with China, Turkey, AND Trump’s United States while Modi’s India finds itself on the outs with Trump, at the mercy of an angry Russia for oil supplies (costs tripled for India in March), linked to Israel’s regional pariah zionist regime, and no closer than ever to China.
Pakistan (with the strong backing of China) arm-twisted Iran into accepting a ceasefire and entering talks with the U.S. in Islamabad.
Pakistan also shipped fighter jets to Saudi Arabia. Which is a good time to think about the implications of the Pakistani-Saudi Mutual Defense Pact. DropSite News has some leaked documents:
On Saturday, as Pakistan was in the middle of mediating hard-won ceasefire talks between the U.S. and Iran, Saudi Arabia made a sudden revelation that appeared to undermine Pakistan’s status as a neutral host. In a statement posted on X, the Saudi Ministry of Defense announced “the arrival of a military force from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan at King Abdulaziz Air Base in the Eastern Sector,” adding that the force would include a contingent of military aircraft and would improve “operational readiness between the armed forces of the two countries.”
Those deployments are the result of a defense pact signed last year between Riyadh and Islamabad that has now been activated amid an ongoing regional war and numerous Iranian attacks against military and energy targets in Saudi Arabia.
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The risk that Pakistan may itself be pushed into the war is also important context for the zeal of Pakistan’s leaders to bring an end to the fighting. Pakistan enjoys good ties with both Iran and the U.S., and relies heavily on financial support from Saudi Arabia. Following news that the United Arab Emirates had recalled a loan from Pakistan last week, Saudi Arabia and Qatar stepped up with $5 billion aimed at propping up Islamabad’s foreign reserves as it deals with fallout from the economic crisis caused by the war.
Pakistan has more than problems, it is in a predicament.
Note the bit about the UAE and Pakistan being on the outs.
That pairs well with Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) being at odds with the UAE’s Mohamed bin Zayed (MBZ).
The rulers of Saudi Arabia and the UAE had been very close ever since MBZ backed the palace coup that put the young MBS on the throne in the place of Muhammad bin Nayef, a CIA darling.
Together the two launched a war on Yemen in 2015 (with US backing). That war caused over half a million Yemeni civilian deaths but proved a costly humiliation for the Saudis and UAE.
After the UAE signed the Abraham Accords with Israel in 2020 near the end of Trump’s first term, it seemed that MBZ would lead his Saudi protege into signing on. That changed after October 7, 2023.
The genocide in Gaza made it politically untenable for any Muslim leader to get closer to Israel.
In the mean time, MBS and MBZ’s relationship has degenerated into open proxy warfare in Yemen. The Saudi backed forces whomped ass on the UAE’s pawns in a scrap the UAE side started with some flagrant territory grabbing.
The 12 Day War last June pushed the Saudis to re-calibrate away from the UAE, Israel and the U.S.
MBS signed a Chinese-brokered peace deal with the Iranians. The Iranians have so far left the Saudis with their pipeline to the Red Sea, a route Iran could cut off at anytime by bombing the pumping stations or encouraging their Houthi allies in Yemen to blockade the Bab-el-Mandeb to Saudi oil.
Iran could also take out the Saudi power and water desalination plants and render Riyadh uninhabitable.
That’s where the Saudi-Pakistani mutual defense pact, and Pakistani’s nuclear arsenal come into play.
Saudi FM Prince Faisal bin Farhan: Era of relying on others is over, seen as signal for possible US withdrawal from Saudi Arabia, with Pakistan Army filling the gap.pic.twitter.com/qgzQhbY19E
— Sadaf Baloch (@sadafzbaloch) April 14, 2026
IF the Sauds push the US to leave their territory then they should have no further conflict with Iran, regardless of however many Pakistani troops are on their territory. If they continue to support US and Israeli attacks on Iran, very different situation.
And so does the four way “discussion group” with Turkey and Egypt that MBS has assembled to join Pakistan and Saudi Arabia as regional power brokers.
While neither Egypt nor Turkey is a nuclear power, both are significant military powers in the region.
Both are also deeply entanged militarily with the U.S. Turkey because of its NATO membership. Egypt because of the billions of dollars of military funding the U.S. gives it as a reward for cooperating with Israel. Also the U.S. backed the coup which put President Sisi in power and overturned the post-Arab Spring elections.
But nonetheless, the four countries met in May and discussed a mutual security pact, per Middle East Eye:
Turkey has, since last year, been seeking a security pact with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Earlier this year, a Pakistani minister said in a statement that such a deal had been in the pipeline for nearly a year.
Turkish sources familiar with the issue previously told Middle East Eye that Ankara was also trying to bring Egypt into the arrangement. The sources said the agreement would not mirror the guarantees and commitments of Nato, but would instead serve as a security platform to enable greater cooperation in the defence industry and broader defence matters.
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While Ankara has repeatedly described Israel as the primary instigator of the war with Iran, a joint statement by the participating countries in Riyadh on Thursday strongly criticised Tehran for its attacks on the Gulf.The statement mentioned Israel only briefly, referring to its “expansionist” policy in Lebanon.
Erdogan has spent the last thirty months loudly accusing Israel of genocide and quietly supplying them with oil via a pipeline from Azerbaijan.
But since the Iran War, he has upped his anti-Israeli rhetoric, even threatening military action this weekend.
The Jerusalem Post’s coverage could be dismissed as scare-aganda, cheap theater to reassure their readership that Turkey presents a real and ever present threat and might need to be attacked at some point:
Responding to reporters later in the day, Erdogan escalated his rhetoric even further, suggesting that Ankara could choose to engage with Israel militarily.
“We must be strong to prevent Israel from doing this to Palestine,” Erdogan said. “Just as we entered Karabakh, just as we entered Libya, we will do the same to them,” he stated. “There is nothing to prevent us from doing it. We just need to be strong so that we can take these steps.”
The Turkish foreign minister got into it today:
Turkey feels increasingly encircled by growing cooperation between Israel, Greece and Cyprus, Hakan Fidan, the Turkish foreign minister, said on Monday, warning that, after Iran, Tel Aviv could turn its attention to Ankara.
Fidan’s remarks come in the aftermath of the collapse of Iran–US peace talks and amid rising tensions with Israel over regional stability. Ankara has so far remained outside the conflict in Iran but has been accused of maintaining close ties with the Iranian regime as well as its regional proxies, Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Palestine.
“After Iran, Israel cannot exist without an enemy; as you know, it has to develop a certain rhetoric,” Fidan told Anadolu Agency. The Turkish foreign minister added that both the Israeli government and some opposition figures were seeking to “designate Türkiye as a new enemy.”
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has accused Israel of carrying out genocide in Gaza. Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz responded by calling Erdoğan a “paper tiger”, saying that he had not reacted to reported missile launches from Iran towards Turkish territory.
“A member of the Muslim Brotherhood who slaughtered the Kurds is accusing Israel – which is defending itself against its Hamas allies – of genocide,” he added.
Turkey’s been on a collision course with Israel since their mutual U.S. backed project to destabilize Syria succeeded all too well and put the famous Al-Jolani, ex-Al Queda and ISIS, in charge.
That added to the relentless political pressure from a Turkish population outraged by the genocide in Gaza and less and less inclined to be placated by Erdogan’s empty rhetoric.
Israel’s dominance of Greece and Cyprus gets Turkey’s hackles up and combined with the Trump regime’s attempt to entice Kurdish forces to attack Iran, Erdogan might be forced to make a real break with the U.S. and go after Israel.
Iran has choices to make but holding to a dead ceasefire while enemies and potential enemies make moves isn’t a good one.
Feral Finster
1. I have long said that Pakistan will get dragged into the war. The US and the Saudis have many pressure points over the rulers there. The masses won’t be happy, but nobody cares what they think or like or want.
2. “If it becomes clear that Israel is almost out of offensive and defensive weaponry, it would serve the interests of Turkey, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, and Jordan to gang up on a weakened Israel. ”
They will do no such thing. A frown from some minor American functionary and all will slink back to their cages.
Nat Wilson Turner
@feral finster Jordan certainly won’t do any such thing, but Turkey is being put in a real strategic squeeze and might seize an opportunity to make a big move.
Tzimisce
Israel attacking Turkey would be a start of a new world war (if we aren’t well on the way there now). NATO is briefly mentioned here, but I think it deserved its own analysis. Israel attacking a NATO member nation would trigger Article 5, and I think Turkey would pull the trigger this time (unlike with Syria). Under some circumstances, Turkey might be left to itself, but with Ukraine and a need to otherwise have a commitment to NATO and Article 5, it increases the possibility of NATO involvement.
The wildcard in the mix is the US. Trump has signaled over and over a willingness to exit NATO. Will Europe allow the US to essentially ignore/boot a member country, especially since the US’s involvement gets shakier by the minute? If you want a post-US future for NATO, you have to have as many members as possible.
Trump also took the word of the Israelis over US intelligence with regards to Iran. I think many in his administration are wary of yet another Israeli boondoggle, but who knows.
Maybe a year ago I would say war with Turkey was remote, but I also would have said the same of war with Iran.
Ian Welsh
I’ve thought for a long time that Turkey should just annex Syria. And, after all, they have a strong historical claim.
Nat Wilson Turner
@Tzimisce Article 5 is very weak sauce and actually carries no obligation to member countries to step in in defense of a fellow member. Also based on the arrogance and racism of Europe, I give exactly 0% any NATO member state would join Turkey against Israel.
Certainly not NATO member Greece, which is totally under Israeli domination and has been since the economic collapse of 2010-2012 which ended with most of Greek media in zionist hands.
Let’s not forget the EU’s long and grossly racist teasing of Turkey with prospects for membership that were never seriously intended. There is a reason Turkey is meeting with Egypt, Pakistan and the loathsome House of Saud — their fellow Sunnis are their natural allies.
Feral Finster
There is no need for Article 5 or an Israeli attack.
The Turkish rulers like their western bank accounts, their shiny western toys, their freedom to take vacations in western countries, their western trophy properties, their western investments.
Of course, the Houthi leaders have none of these things, which is why they alone are able to stand up to the Americans. For was it not of old written that “Freedom’s just another word, for nothing left to lose!”?
Purple Library Guy
I don’t know this, but I suspect that Indonesians probably don’t care about Sunni vs. Shi’ite nearly as much as, say, Saudis or Bahrainis do. They’re a long way from the sectarian infighting. If that’s the case, then Indonesians might think a few times before going and getting involved in a messy war just to help Israel and the US against fellow Muslims.
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Pakistan would not risk a conflict with Iran. It would open up their flank to India. India is Pakistan’s one true enemy and concern.
This is the beginning of the end for the Middle East. It has revealed just how precarious the whole arrangement has been. The desert is about to take its due. The Gulf States have lived far too long on gold-infused borrowed time.
Nat Wilson Turner
@Purple Library Guy I suspect for Indonesia this is all about China. Alliances have a way of sucking countries into wars against opponents (enemy of my friend, friend of my enemy) that they never meant to fight
Feral Finster
“Pakistan would not risk a conflict with Iran. It would open up their flank to India. India is Pakistan’s one true enemy and concern.”
Pakistan can rest assured that India will not do shit. The Americans will make sure of that.
Nat Wilson Turner
@feral finster it’s actually the Chinese kit which allowed Pakistan to whip India so thoroughly in 2025 that gives them the latitude to move in West Asia. Also India’s diplomatic isolation which means Modi is further from Trump than ever, just as he’s further from Putin and Xi than ever. Dude played hisself.
Feral Finster
I’m not arguing anything about “kit”. Modi wants to stay on the Americans’ good side, which is why he rolled over with regard to purchases of Russian oil, for example.
Similarly, the Pakistani elites also want very much to stay on the Americans’ good side. They want shiny prestigious western toys, not Chinese. They want to send their spawn to western colleges, not Chinese. They buy boltholes and trophy properties in London or Vancouver, nor Shanghai. They want dollars, not renmibi.
Stephen T Johnson
I think the complication here is that there’s a congeries of unstable, weak and unreliable actors here – a sort of tournament of scoundrels, liar’s poker for all the marbles, so to speak. Certainly, India have managed to lock themselves out in the cold, but everything here is mutable, and any number of results are possible – keep stocked up on popcorn, and hope that they don’t trigger the big mistake.
DMC
How this all plays out also depends on whether or not the Zionist regime finally gives in to its long held desire to destroy the Al Asqua mosque(otherwise the Dome of the Rock), the third holiest site in Islam, in order to build the third Temple. This would unify muslims across the world against Israel. Real jihad is much scarier than little “garage band” outfits like al Quaida and ISIS. This is potentially a billion and half people all with one goal and ready for glorious maryterdom. Ben-Gvir and his stormtroopers are ready to go there. Is it apocalyptic rhetoric when its actually the Apocalypse?
Mark Level
I agree with Nat Wilson Turner that Modi has isolated himself by being a bootlicker for Netanyahu and Zionism. Russia can cut them off from oil at any time if they wish, IF Trumpy’s fake blockade has any effect (unlikely, Col. MacGregor says it’ll be a shambolic failure) they are even more screwed. And yes, Pakistan has Chinese jets and is far stronger than India. Pakistan has dual loyalties, is owned (for now) by the US, but as things degenerate they may abandon ship with the other rats.
I fully agree with Ian on Turkiye taking some initiative and annexing Syria. Could the head-choppers and Uighurs resist them? While simultaneously being attacked by Israel? Seems unlikely. I also appreciate Nat’s observation that Indonesia can just sit it out. They have been a US lap-dog for decades, committed a genocide against labor-union members with the US funding and cheering it on, when Barry Obama’s mommy was a CIA asset in their country. Barry learned the lesson well as a child there, always support genocide and bomb the Darkies, or kill them. Glenn Beck and those clowns who thought he was “anti-colonialist”, that’s rich.
No fan of Erdogan, a slimy bastard, but he and Bibi have been calling each other “the New Hitler” in the last week. The world news Bibi fits the bill. Erdogan not overextended simultaneously attacking 8 neighboring countries.
If the Sunni/Gulf Slaves take the worst choice, slavery to the Zionist entity, we will be in the darkest timeline possible. But Iran will burn down the GCC Monarchic puppets. I hope LAS is correct, though that’s pretty rare (& almost never if Russia is the topic.)
John Helmer on Nima’s show yesterday said none of his former informants in KSA would talk to him, afraid of getting chopped up by MBS like that CIA dude was. He thinks this means KSA is on a knife’s edge, there may be a revolt over MBS being a butt-boy for the Zionists.
One side is calm, focused and rational, the other is led by mad incompetents, in a dying empire. Even IF the US-installed monarchies make the bad choice, it seems Iran has already won, it’s just a matter of time. Even the Euro-slugs (apart from losers like Ursula and Merz, wooden Mark Rutte, the world’s stupidest leader) aren’t betting on the Empire.
Nat Wilson Turner
@Feral Finster ah but Modi’s moves toward Trump and Israel have blown up in his face. The oil he was promised from the Gulf States didn’t come through and now he’s back to buying Russian oil, but the discount is long gone and India is paying a big premium. I don’t think pleasing Trump is #1 on Modi’s agenda right now, and if it was, he would give Pakistan a pass to bail out the Saudis.
different clue
@DMC,
The scenario you offer is the scenario which the Rapturaniacs and the Armageddonites hope to bring about. That is why the American Christianazivangelicals have been supporting the hard and hardest right factions within the Israeli GoverSystem all this time. Their goal for Israel is to use it as their detonator for Nuke War Three all over the world so that Christ will come again soonest and rule the Kingdom of Christ on Earth after the End of Days has ended.
This is why the Rapturaniac-Armageddonites love Netanyahu, Ben Gvir, Smotrich, etc. so much.
Now . . . the Gilead Christianazians take the “other” view. Their theory is that they have to establish their Thousand Year Rule of Gilead Christianazian Righteousness upon the earth First, and if they are Gilead Righteous eNOUGH, then God will be Right Pleased, and send Christ to Come Again. If the Rapturaniac-Armageddonites succeed in using Israel to detonate World War Three all over the world, then the world may be too destroyed for the Gilead Christianazians to be able to rule it for a thousand years in the Name of Christ. So the Gilead Christianazians may try to put the brakes on the Rapturaniac-Armageddonites. We already see Christianazian-adjacent White Power Activists and Intellectuals like Tucker Carlson, Nick Fuentes, Marjorie Taylor Greene, etc. speaking and working on detaching America from Israel in hopes of making it less of a detonator.
I would again remind our foreign friends and observers: y’all have no idea what kind of high-level radioactive human wast and toxic human sewage we’ve got all up in here.
Oakchair
Pakistan can rest assured that India will not do shit. The Americans will make sure of that.
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Why would those in charge of America be against India attacking Pakistan?
The rulers of the west openly talk about how the world population needs to be reduced, they’ve committed genocide after genocide after genocide’s in the global south, in the Epstein files they talked about “how to get rid of all the poor”. Look what they do to their own children. They’d salivate at the prospect of a war between India and Pakistan.
spud
if turkey has claims to syria, greece has claims to the western part of turkey, including both sides of the straights, as well as cyprus.
open one can of worms, others follow.
Mark Level
I’ll go with Oakchair over Finster this time. Modi is insane, he is a Muslim Genocider, cannot control himself. They got dug out by DJT’s fake “Peace” treaty last time, but generally both parties are at a boil, not too many cool heads there. The Big Lie about the Zionists, “Those people have been at war for thousands of years” is false, the Muslims never bombed or destroyed Christian Churches over centuries of rule in Palestine, they revere Jesus and Mary. For God’s/Dog’s sake, the Israelis bombed a synagogue in Iran!!
Btw, Due Dissidence doing a long segment on the “blasphemous” Trump pic of himself as a Jesus “Healer”. “I thought I was a Doctor.” Megyn Kelly among others apoplectic. She really spilled the tea, Trump makes his formerly strongest supporters like her bail, practically puking with revulsion. She used to be Islamophobic as hell, but noted that in recent weeks Trump has insulted Muslims with the “Praise Allah!,” we’re about to exterminate a 6.5 millenia old civilization (Chris Hedges says 7, I think a bit shorter), and now Megyn says he’s directly insulted 4.6 Billion Christians (the # she gave.) Then she adds, There’s only ONE group he hasn’t insulted, and we know he never will! (paraphrasing from memory). Boom!! Owned the Bitch Trump and spat on the Zionists.
Never thought I would be a fan of Candace Owens, Megyn, Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, or some others. Even Tim Dillon called the fat blasphemer out. As Megyn said, DJT is crashing out, losing all his support.
His ending will be like Downfall (the film) but funnier were it filmed.
mago
Agree with the comments about the Middle East elite and the princes and princelings digging the privilege and decadent indulgences that their dirty oily money can buy.
I knew a couple of privileged young Arabs when I was young myself and they were into blow and prostitutes, not that I begrudged their proclivities. It was their smug arrogance that bit me.
That aside, it’s my limited understanding that the various factions are tribal and will sell each other out and change allegiances for whatever perceived benefit. So who knows how it’s going to go, but per usual the leadership wherever cares squat about what the people want.
Yeah, well, anyone with intent can make a drone in their garage, and there are ninjas trained in the art of stealth and assassination. And, no that’s not comic book stuff. Contrary to what you see on whatever screen you’re watching, there are serious people out there working under the radar to effect change. Whether such agents can make it happen is an open question. In a world of chaos anything is possible.
SES
Arnaud Bertrand supplies some essential details concerning the Indonesia-US Major Defense Cooperation Partnership. All is not necessarily as it seems:
https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/2043879967394836964
Feral Finster
Modi will find whatever reason he needs to do nothing to piss the Americans off. He can tell himself that he’s helping Muslims genocide Muslims if that’s what he needs to do.
Keep in mind that the Indian upper classes (the only ones who matter) were in open revolt when Modi made noises about siding with Russia, and Trump is *allowing* India to buy Russian oil for the time being.
Nat Wilson Turner
@SES Thanks! Big fan of Bertrand and hadn’t seen that.
Feral Finster
Further to my point:
https://korybko.substack.com/p/saudi-arabia-didnt-bail-pakistan
different clue
There is a video maker who calls his video-series Secular Talk. He is somewhat to the Left of Liberal. His videos are mostly him talking but he shows a little bit of what he is talking about. He likes to cuss a fair amount. ( Some people think that cussword-sprinkling lends them an air of authenticitude. Yeah . . . maybe).
But he recently offered a video with news very relevant to this post and thread ( and with his interpretation as to why). What it basically is . . . is that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has decided to wind up and cancel its whole bright shiny new golf league, the one they paid so many pro-golfers so much money to come join. Mr. Reply interprets this as a harsh warning to President Trump that they want this war ended soonest and they will cut more business links with the Trump family in particular and then America in general if this war isn’t ended soonest.
If Mr. Reply is correct, then it seems unlikely that KSA would go to war with Iran, either with Pakistani help or any other Sunni power help.
“BREAKING: Saudi Arabia Says F*CK YOU TO TRUMP & SHUTS DOWN LIV GOLF LEAGUE!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8SpZT7ZgpY
Jack Parsons
A side comment: I am an outsider to the region, but… I have the strong suspicion that there is massive racism in the Muslim world: Arabs are first-class Believers, while Persians, Turks, Indonesians, Kazakhs are all second-class Believers.
Is this fair? Are non-Arabs defensive about being considered loyal co-religionists? The way Canadians, Australians and New Zealanders felt the urge to throw in on BS Anglo-American wars?
Mark Level
So today, per Colonel Daniel Davis & Prof. Sayed Mohammed Mirandi, Trump is lying that the Iranians have “agreed to everything”, no support for their Allies in the future, will give up the “nukular dust” without US putting any boots on the ground, BUT he is continuing “the Blockade” indefinitely. NO sanctions relief, and a permanent agreement that Iran & presumably Oman will NEVER again collect tolls= Complete Surrender by Iran!!
Prof. Mirandi said it’s all lies, probably due to it being Friday he & his Epstein class pals will make some bank over the weekend . . . OR it’s phony, he’ll call them out for violating the (imagined) surrender, will be a future Casus Belli, as he’s sending lots more troops to the Mideast.
All a mentally ill, deranged all dotard (as Kim Jong Un called him roughly a decade ago) screaming at the clouds he’s getting his “information” from.
Meantime his Cult members are exiting left and right. Per sources, TPUSA has cancelled numerous future events, insane “More People for Heaven” or some bullshit like that, but it’s not Jesus stuff (those are the ones leaving) it’s “Shabat Shalom!” and Zionist Race Worship, thus the loss of support . . .
Why won’t they get the folks with the Butterfly Nets? They’re too cowardly. Last note– Prof. M says the hot season, sandstorms etc. are coming soon, greater delays will make things worst for US troops. Not that he cares about ANY human lives beyond his Epstein Class buddies (okay, maybe not the Clintons or Kamala, but most of them.)