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  1. Like & Subscribe

    I’m not a South Park fan and in fact, I’ve never watched it up until today. This morning I watched the latest controversial episode. Holy Smokes! Spot on! They take no prisoners. Brilliant, albeit crude but the crude is absolutely necessary as in crude for crude (an eye for an eye).

  2. Mark Level

    Fascinating piece by Canada’s Dmitri Lascaris on the 3 day kidnapping/ detention of journalist Laith Marouf of Palestine TV by the Lebanese secret police. He might’ve been permanently disappeared or held indefinitely if not for intervention by hundreds (at least) of people with the Canadian government, at a time when his wife, a Lebanese academic, was being honored in Canada for her work. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7miLmFDzgjo

    As a civil rights litigator, Lascaris is careful in his speculation, but it seems that for now, Marouf cannot be removed from reporting on the genocide not just in Palestine, the West Bank, but across the region. In other news, Grayzone covered that in the last 2 months, Trump’s favorability rating with voters under 45 has dropped 54 points, it seems that there were a lot of people on the Right who are realizing his cult has nothing to do with “MAGA” and is garbage. They also cover that the dead-eyed ghoul Antony Blinken has emerged from under his rock to appear on the Christine Amanpour’s “Ex Files” podcast and explain that the Palestinian mass deaths by starvation or being murdered at the “Gaza Aid” stations are all the fault of . . . Americans who are insufficiently angry at Hamas!!

    Rare for me to agree with L&S on much of anything, but Due Dissidence covered the South Park episode, had to do a summary coz as a smaller broadcaster (I think they recently got a YTube plaque for having 100,000 followers, something a sub-mediocrity like Kyle Kulinski has achieved) of the episode and in fact they give him the same treatment they did to Saddam in the SP Movie, in bed with Satan but rejected for a small tool (which Saddam wasn’t). Also, Randy has to ask Siri how to help his children now that “Woke” has been banished and Jesus has a starring role in their school curriculum. Parker & Stone never even bothered with the Donald during his first term, but he’s such a dumpster fire now they just couldn’t resist, evidently.

    Trump is the Greatest at one thing now, and that is being the World’s Village Idiot. Character is Destiny, his is pretty much fulfilled.

  3. “It’s no use going back to yesterday, because I was a different person then.” ― Lewis Carroll

    “Only a few find the way, some don’t recognize it when they do – some… don’t ever want to.” –Alice in wonderland
    —–

    According to news articles “ADHD Medication is Not Associated with Cardiovascular Risk at Any Age”
    https://www.additudemag.com/adhd-medication-no-cardiovascular-risk-hypertension-heart-failure/?amp=1

    It cites a meta-analysis that concludes: “no statistically significant association between ADHD medications and the risk of CVD”

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2798903

    Don’t worry we don’t need to go down this rabbit hole very far to understand what was done.

    The results of the meta-analysis were “CVD among children and adolescents (RR, 1.18 95% CI, 0.91-1.53) cardiac arrest or arrhythmias (RR, 1.60; 95% CI, 0.94-2.72)”
    ADHD drugs were associated with 18% and 60% more Cardiovascular disease and heart attacks but the sample size was too small to reach statistical significance.

    All the studies lasted less than 6 months except “2 studies with long-term follow-up both showed elevated risk (RR, 2.01; 95% CI, 1.98-2.06 and RR, 3.07; 95% CI, 1.09-8.64)”

    The two long term studies showed a statistical significant 2 and 3 increased rate of cardiovascular disease and heart attacks from ADHD drugs.

    Maybe the authors did this because in the conflict of interest section it declares the study was funded by drug corporations and the authors were paid by drug corporation after drug corporation.

    Can you imagine the media and medical journals reporting with a straight face that tobacco does not cause cancer because 6 month studies funded by Marlboro only showed a statistical insignificant 60% increase in cancer?

    ——–

    According to a news article “Antidepressants are generally safe,”

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191002121717.htm

    They cite a 2019 review
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2751924

    In the Conflict of interest disclosures and funding sections there is two pages listing all the drug corporations the authors worked for and received money from over the years.
    Some examples “Allergan, AstraZeneca, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Dainippon Sumitomo Pharma, Farmindustria, Ferrer, Galenica, Gedeon Richter, GlaxoSmithKline, Janssen, Lundbeck, Otsuka, Pfizer.”

    Jump into the hole with the rabbit and go to the results tables most of which are tucked –some would say hidden– in the supplementary section.
    Antidepressants increased:
    bone diseases and fractures by 31%-207%
    Various bleedings such as GI by 35%-78%
    Autism, ADHD, and birth defects in women’s children by 21%-244%
    Cebrovascular diseases by 26%
    Various heart diseases by 14%-61%
    Respiratory distress by 33%
    Dementia by 75%-279%
    Strokes by 32-48%
    Tremors (Also known as Akathisia or parkinsons-like diseases) by 790%
    Nervous system diseases by 43%
    Digestive diseases by 23%
    mortality with short term use by 15%

    The drug corporate funded authors didn’t include any of the longer term mortality studies in their review.
    Could it be because a meta-analysis published two years before their review found: “When pre-medication depression was accounted for, SSRIs increased the risk of mortality by 49%.”?

    https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/10/antidepressants-increase-risk-death-study-finds/
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    “HPV vaccination has a benefit-to-cost ratio above one ranged from £69 to £1417”

    The cost benefit analysis was funded by an “immunization” institute in London. One of the 3 authors worked for this institute. Another
    worked for a “Centre” for infectious disease while the other worked for a “department of infectious disease” both of which receive funding from vaccine manufacturers.

    They reached their conclusion by using an “epidemiological model” and further assuming that
    “the vaccine provides lifelong protection”

    The model they use is from link 24 and besides for the second assumption is the entire basis of their conclusion.
    The people who created this model were paid by vaccine manufacturers such as GlaxoSmithkline and Merck and worked for the same vaccine funded organizations as the authors of the cost benefit analysis.
    The creation of the model was funded by an the same “immunization” institute.
    The model consist of:
    “We assumed the quadrivalent vaccine to provide some protection”
    “Cross protection against non-vaccine types was assumed”
    “we assumed a single dose of vaccine to cost £80.50”

    That’s it. No real world data was used, no negative health effects were even considered, nothing was used except assumptions that the vaccine was effective and safe.
    That’s “expert science” for you.

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6123970/
    ——-

    “If you drink much from a bottle marked ‘poison’ it is certain to disagree with you sooner or later.” –Alice in wonderland

    “It is a dangerous thing to unbelieve something only because it frightens you.” –Alice in wonderland

    “We are all victims in-waiting.” –Alice in wonderland

  4. bruce wilder

    The algorithm for some reason has decided that I need to know about stupidity and it’s been delivering almost daily the essay by the martyred Lutheran theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer to inform me that stupidity, expressed in political views, is more dangerous and more difficult to combat than intended evil.

    Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. One may protest against evil; it can be exposed and, if need be, prevented by use of force. Evil always carries within itself the germ of its own subversion in that it leaves behind in human beings at least a sense of unease.

    Against stupidity we are defenseless.

    Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here; reasons fall on deaf ears; facts that contradict one’s prejudgment simply need not be believed — in such moments the stupid person even becomes critical — and when facts are irrefutable, they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this the stupid person, in contrast to the malicious one, is utterly self-satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack.

    https://nsjonline.com/article/2021/12/bonhoeffer-on-stupidity/

    Why the algorithm thinks I need to read this essay remains something of a mystery. One of the vehicles flagging my attention — the YouTube account called “Philosophy Coded” — may be AI-generated. Bonhoeffer also showed up in NC daily links one day via a mediocre essay touting it, but confusing Bonhoeffer’s “stupidity” with mere ignorance. It has come at me in other places as well. I don’t know if I am a special-needs patient of the universe in this regard, or if this essay is being circulated as part of a strange campaign with broad targets.

    I have yielded to the prompts — a human victim of prompt engineering apparently, in a reversal of roles from our AI-dominated discourse. Where is Grok when you need him? I ask and receive no answer.

    My human all too human intelligence has contemplated Bonhoeffer’s idea and its application to current controversies in the popular political discourse. There are lots of controversies where stupidity is on full display.

    I chose Matt Taibbi’s narration of the Tulsi Gabbard revelations regarding Russiagate. Taibbi was a strong Russiagate skeptic as well as a skeptic with regard to the mainstream Ukraine War Narrative and a fierce critic of the abandonment of journalistic standards in the reporting on Russiagate among other issues.

    Seen from Taibbi’s perspective, the announcement of the termination of the Colbert late night show on CBS took on a different look. This is because Colbert, among other late night hosts, became significant validators and amplifiers of Russiagate propaganda. I am guessing that for the vast majority of Americans sitting at home, Tulsi Gabbard’s documentation of the conspiracy to propagate the Russiagate libels against Trump scarcely registered. Very few outside the right-wing silos would notice or see any relationship to Colbert’s antics.

    Seen through the lens of “stupidity”, what John Brennan, the CIA director, and others, did in promoting Russiagate suspicion and what people like Colbert did in irresponsibly amplifying Russiagate illustrates how powerful and destructive “stupidity” is in American political discourse. There are more important examples historically of course: WMD in Iraq being the prime example.

    Bonhoeffer’s critical distinction regarding malicious intent comes into play in important ways. There is little doubt now that Russiagate or WMD were initiated willfully but it is not clear that they were initiated maliciously. It could have been sheer irresponsibility that prioritized groundless suspicion over deliberate consideration of evidence. A kind of supreme arrogance infecting the powerful appears to have initiated the “idea” and proposed it confidently in the voice of authority. As Bonhoeffer suggests, the “stupid” may think they are furthering the good in acting on willfull ignorance. And their helpers in echo chambers, public and private, in not questioning what they are told, do the same.

  5. different clue

    Here is something from the nextfuckinglevel subreddit titled: ” Former Librarian Marion Stokes was afraid people would rewrite history, so she recorded over 800,000 hours of TV over 35 years”

    Here is the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nextfuckinglevel/comments/1m9z9yx/former_librarian_marion_stokes_was_afraid_people/

  6. different clue

    Here is a mildly entertaining video offering the thesis that now that Fat Donald has secured for the Overclass its multitrillion dollar tax cut and for the silicon Overclass its various digital licenses to print money, neither Overclass needs Donnie TACO around anymore. And as soon as they got their Big Ugly Garbage Bill passed, they started going to work on deleting President Trump. By focusing all their efforts on Epsteining the current President among other methods. Vance is their President guy now.

    That’s the basic thesis of the video. It is entertaining, but if one has enough entertainment in one’s life, one need not watch the video. But here is the link anyway, just in case.
    ” George Conway Predicts Trump’s MANIC DOWNFALL He Won’t See Coming! ”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_MNh5oc4ZA

  7. mago

    Spent a good portion of the day in the kitchen, which is usually contemplative time, so no thinking about the tóxicos like Blinken, Trump and other screw loose Torquemadas.
    No, just julienne carrots, carmalize onions, make a pesto, a couple of marinades, a dressing or two, a chili herb butter for salmon, a Greek salad, and that’s not the half of it.
    Toward the end of prep while washing lettuce I noticed an inordinate amount of tiny bichos coming out in the rinse water—aphid type creatures along with what appeared to be single cell flies or something.
    So I’m like immerse in water, agitate, drain—the old rinse and repeat routine.
    Then I thought, okay, using a lot of water, taking a lot of time, but still, wouldn’t it be good if we could get rid of human pests so easily? You know, the kind who consider other human beings equal to insects to be squashed and exterminated.
    Not advocating death and destruction of any sentient beings, but maybe a colonic of some sort to clean out bad bacteria and toxins, like hatred and murderous intent. Flush out the inferior/superior mindset.
    On another note, happy to report a successful culinary adventure on a sterling summer day in the mountains.
    Good tidings to all.

  8. marku52

    OakChair. Thanks, I always appreciate your efforts down the medical rabbit hole.

    Again, “Believe nothing until it is officially denied!”

  9. KT Chong

    First, they went for the “illegal” immigrants—but they also started revoking green cards and denaturalizing citizens, i.e., turning legal immigrants into illegals.

    Then, they went for refugees and asylum seekers—by cancelling protective statuses and all bond hearings for them.

    Two days ago, they added homeless people—by relabeling and criminalizing homelessness as “endemic vagrancy”. Now they are going to mass arrest and incarcerate “endemic vagrants” and feed them into the expanded private prison industry complex.

    There is clearly a pattern here, by adding and targeting one group after another of marginalized and vulnerable people, i.e., the “undesirables”.

    Who’s next?

  10. different clue

    Here is a ” metajoke” ( a joke about jokes) which I saw on the reddit which is too good not to share. It is from the ExplainTheJoke subreddit. It is titled . . . ” Found in a Christmas cracker. We don’t get it…” Here is the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ExplainTheJoke/comments/1mahcad/found_in_a_christmas_cracker_we_dont_get_it/

    It reminded me of a “metajoke” John Cleese once told when offering a little bit of explaination about how humor works. I will attempt to quote it from memory as best I can . . .

    There’s these two Scotsmen. The first one asks the second one ” So, Jocko . . . why did the Scotsman cross the road?” The second Scotsman says ” Hoot mon . . . I’m nae bloody Scotsman. I’m French!”

  11. different clue

    And here is a question about heat-tolerance from the NoStupidQuestions subreddit which will be growingly relevant in our Global SuperHeating future.
    ” How do people who live in really hot countries take the heat? I just saw its 51C or 124F in Iraq. Wtf. ”
    The thread contains some good useful comments among the ” komment klutter”.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/1makp8a/how_do_people_who_live_in_really_hot_countries/

  12. mago

    @KT Chong, to answer your question I’ll quote once again the lyrics from a long defunct psychedelic band:

    They’re locking them up today and throwing away the key
    I wonder who it will be tomorrow
    You or me
    We’re all normal and we want our freedom freedom freedom. . .

    I’m afraid my brown and black skinned brothers and sisters are first on the list, but the way it’s going any dissident of any stripe is going down. . .

    All of god’s children gots to have their freedom. . .

  13. different clue

    Here was a politically interesting idea for diffuse leaderless information-platform warfare, wageable by children against Fox News. It was offered by Matt Groening at a Comic Con Convention. Here is the text of the suggestion, couched as a “Simpson’s Prediction” . . . ” Matt Groening at San Diego Comic Con: “‘The Simpsons’ predicts kids across America will liberate the Republican parents from the cult of MAGA. Here’s how you do it: Grab the TV remote, go to menu, go to controls…Delete Fox News.” (July 26, 2025) ”

    It sounds a little more dramatic when seen and heard, so here is the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1mazc9v/matt_groening_at_san_diego_comic_con_the_simpsons/

  14. different clue

    Here is a different food video which I wonder what mago would think of it. It is Chinese, not Japanese; and is almost “artisandustrial” in scale. Called: ” Cooking for a feast”

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Unexpected/comments/1mb4i2z/cooking_for_a_feast/

  15. different clue

    Global Warming denialism:

    Here is a chart called Staircase of Denial tracking several-year intervals of denialism as temperature loads increase every few years.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/1mbczt3/staircase_of_denial_oc/

  16. different clue

    Well. . . if I had watched that cooking video to the end, I would have seen that it was for pigs.

    To me, it looked good enough to eat. I suppose if I had been there and asked for some, I would have been mocked as “eating the pigs’s food”. Maybe I would have grabbed some anyway for later if I could be sure of not being seen.

    Those pigs must taste pretty good.

  17. Curt Kastens

    Will the sustainable carrying capacity of the earth be 2 billion people by 2050?
    https://www.independent.co.uk/climate-change/water-climate-salt-desalination-world-b2798307.html

  18. different clue

    It suddenly occurred to me that the above-shared video of a banquet for pigs has to be some kind of a joke. Nobody would feed pigs that way as a matter of course, not even in China.

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