Last night, something happened that I’ve never seen in my time in politics – a bunch of Democratic incumbent politicians in New York and Maryland lost to left-wing challengers. New York in particular has an intensely wired Democratic machine, with advocacy groups, unions, and identity rights groups cemented together with big money. This machine rarely loses, and never loses en masse. Yesterday, they did, as voters said no to the entire political establishment.
The winners mostly ran on a platform of opposition to the U.S. alliance with Israel, as well as subordinate themes like opposition to corporate greed. For instance, Antonio Reynoso, the Brooklyn borough president and a well-respected establishment figure with virtually every endorsement possible from both liberal groups and real estate interests, lost to Democratic Socialist Claire Valdez by more than 25 percentage points. Adriano Espaillat, the head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, was unseated by fellow DSA member Darializa Avila Chevalier. State assembly incumbents lost, and both the state and Federal delegation are now far more progressive.
The New York machine, in other words, got wrecked.
I came out of the netroots: the blogosphere. We had a motto “more and better democrats” but every time we tried to primary some shitheel Democrat, we got wrecked.
We didn’t have the juice.
And in American politics the most important thing is whether you can win primaries. In a duopoly, even if your candidate loses the general this time, they’ll eventually back into power if the district is competitive. If it’s not competitive, and the party you can win elections in is the shoe in, well, it’s the same as winning the election.
The reason the populist right has been pandered to by Republicans on many issues (but not corporate governance) is that they can win primaries.
The reason Kathy Hochui kept her implicit deal with Mamdani and has given him money for New York and other help is that Mamdani is a powerhouse and a bellweather. Opposing him would mean he and the movement he is the standard bearer for would have come for her next.
This is localized so far, but if it spreads the Democratic party will change. And unlike the Republican right, which can be bought off with culture war bullshit, this a left wing populist movement which is explicitly anti-oligarchy. Mamdani has been very successful so far, coming thru on many of his promises. I recently saw someone earning six figures say that Mamdani’s childcare plan had saved him 30K. That’s not chump change and it dwarfs anything the well off, but not rich, will lose from Mamdani’s other changes. In other words the 80% to 95% benefit, as does everyone under 80%.
That is one one hell of a big coalition.
Democrats and Republicans, since Reagan, have largely refused to compete on doing things for ordinary Americans: at least anything pocket book related. The competition has all been kabuki, symbolic gestures or cultural red meat. Some of it has really hurt people, to be sure (abortion bans for example) but overall the idea has been that money should be given to the rich and programs which help ordinary people’s finances are a no go.
Since the US is a duopoly and you only get to vote for two options, neither of which intend to help, the only solution was to change the nature of one of the parties.
That has now begun. How far it will go and whether it will succeed, I do not know.
I do know that if it does, the Democrats will rule for another 50 years, like they did from 32 to 80. Republicans will get in sometimes, but they will be like Eisenhower: ruling in a populist left fashion. The mirror of Clinton or Obama, who in most respects might as well have been Republicans. They were certainly arch-neoliberals.
This is your moment of actual hope. Not the fake Obama stuff, the real thing. It’s not certain, of course, there is a ton of power opposing it, but it is real hope.
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Bob
I just don’t believe that electoral politics can bring change.
I got behind the Corbyn thing having never voted (I am in my 50’s now) and it was a complete and utter fit up.
I thought I should at least give the Labour party the benefit if the doubt but I regret having ticked the box for those fascists.
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So wait, I’m confused. Is America done or not? I thought America was toast. Kaput. Over. If so, who gives a flying crap whether Dems rule for the next 50 years. Rule what, exactly? Burnt toast?
Sorry, I’m allergic to Kool-Aid and for good reason. This is as delusional as MAGA believing a born-with-a-silver-spoon-in-his-mouth Manhattanenite con artist pedophile will deliver them the promised land.
The Dem party is never going to be positively transformed and neither is the political process in place in America at this time. So long as the ruling elite own the political process, it will only get more draconian, not less, despite the Kabuki Theater of faux populist candidates.
Ian Welsh
By the time this turns things around America will be well in the dirt.
If it turns things around. The last chance to avoid America going to Hell was Obama, and he was far more interested in being part of the club.
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I recently saw someone earning six figures say that Mamdani’s childcare plan had saved him 30K.
No doubt you will censor this comment too but I will place it for posterity. I would like to audit this claim, firstly. Secondly, paying the Untouchables a pittance to nurture the neglected yet privileged children of the middle class by taxing billionaires, if they are indeed ultimately taxed, is hardly revolutionary let alone progressive. The people working at these daycares do not make enough to survive and that is not being addressed. The Caste System still rules the day.
Ian Welsh
“Nothing good ever happens, or can happen, and if it does it’s not something good. Also America is all powerful and will defeat every nation in the world.”
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Ian, that’s not my philosophy at all. Obviously, good things happen but they happen within a context and the context is my focus. These good things are so infrequent these days, they are nearly anomalies and/or aberrations. Here is an example from Denmark. It’s a good thing. A wonderful thing. Beautiful. Touching. Inspiring. It should bring tears to your eyes IF anyone watches it. THIS should be the standard of care not just in Denmark but the entire world but it’s not and it’s not for a reason. That reason is the context and this care home is the rare exception within that context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4IfCPsIgY
Bob
Something good can happen but it will take the collapse of our societies to make room for it.
NGG
Interesting post. Will have to wait to see how this plays out. I haven’t given up hope yet.
How fed up are the 80+%.
Feral Finster
“And unlike the Republican right, which can be bought off with culture war bullshit, this a left wing populist movement which is explicitly anti-oligarchy. ”
Oh, the left can be bought off or distracted easily enough.
Pronouns, humans. PRONOUNS!
Feral Finster
@Ian:
“Nothing good ever happens, or can happen, and if it does it’s not something good. Also America is all powerful and will defeat every nation in the world.”
That’s kind of a strawman, but whatever. Do you prefer happy horseshit?
I am hardly an L&S fanboi, BTW.
spud
first off, the clintonites are screaming with rage over Mamdani’s wins. so he better be well protected.
2nd, if his movement gains the federal house, do away with the awful gerrymandered by law house, that gives oversized representation to the religious and conservative crackpots.
give them the representation that the founders gave them before 1900, actual representation, based on the size of their population, that size representation, was about 210,000 per house seat. not the geographically gerrymandered monsters we have today, where the tail wags the dogs, where idiots like mike huckabee fail upwards into power.
i think the duopoly can be broken, at least in the house. only the senate was made to be fair, not the house.
Tomonthebeach
This may sound simple-minded, but my post-retirement studies in economics (I am a psychologist by profession) make me view this NYC twist as a kick in AIPAC’s nads. They have been making Dems look to many voters like whimpy Republicans to ensure the MAGAs (and Israel) win so Bibi can continue in Adolf’s footprints and freely exterminate Arabs and Muslims while doubling the size of their landmass.
Jan Wiklund
I would rather say that the only thing that matters is to have organized movements around material interests. If you don’t have that, you are too weak and the occasional candidates you may support will likely desert you to win support from somebody else.
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I will claim that I have long felt that one approach to the Democratic Party would be to try and reconquer it from the anti-New Deal secret-agent Upper Class Warriors . . . and then work on purging, burning and exterminating them from out of the Party with Stalinesque thoroughness and intensity. Step by Step.
Lefter-than-thou too-cool-for-school plague-on-both-their-houses Puristocrats will continue sneering at the possibility and sneering at those who try this approach. Pragmatocrats will give it a good long patiently thought out strategic and tactical try.
Come to think of it, they just have . . . as Ian Welsh points out in this post.
Pragmatocrats will study this and build on it, both in Greater New York and experimentally from other possible centers of reconquest, and spread the declintamination process outward from each of those conquered pinpoint places of reconquest.
Of course various Puristocrats will come by to sneer at this post and sneer at the possibility and the apparent achievement. Come to think of it, some of them already have.
The ReNew Deal Democrats or whatever we want to call them, as they keep conquering, clearing and holding territory; will have to be able to walk, chew gum AND tie their shoes at the same time. I hope they realize that nobody ever told them that life is fair.
One thing I would like to see a Democrats Militant and Triumphant re-majority in the House, if they get one; is to launch the most vicious possible fact-based Impeachment against President Jabba the Trump. The point would be to MAKE the Republicanfederate Senators vote to aquit. The reason for that would be to keep all the Republicanfederates firmly on board the Submarine as Captain Trump takes it down to crush depth. The goal should be the functional extermination of the Republicanfederate Party and the Conservative Movements from functional political existence . No Republicanfederate should be permitted to “survive”, and if any wounded Republicanfederates should be seen floating on the surface where the submarine went down, they should be “killed” on the surface, metaphorically and politically speaking. Even as such a Dem House Majority Militant and Triumphant is doing other things. Walk, chew gum AND tie their shoes at the same time.
( As a semi-aside, I chortle with glee to think of one-time commenter Gizzzard of Ooze
grinding his teeth in a desperate desire to troll threads like this and have to sit there helpless to troll these threads because he went and got his sorry ass banned from Ian Welsh. Which is a very hard thing to achieve it, but he achieved it, right along with that Peter guy from years ago. As Nelson Muntz would say: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AstjcrRz2Gk
And that is the spirit in which we need to move in order to Take our Party Back. Spiritual-emotional violence carried out in a physically non-violent way.
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Here is a Belle of the Ranch video called: “Trump’s inflation increasing at the fastest pace in years….”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAvdeQFGRiQ
This is part of the political terrain in which this Guerra de la Reconquista del Partido Democratico will take place.
Ian Welsh
Oh yes, the constant critique I get is that I prefer happy horseshit. Every day someone writes me to say how irrationally optimistic I am and how I always…
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responseTwo
I have no faith in the new democrats. Once your in the democrat party the DNC controls you. These new people are no different then Bernie Sanders. All hype while the billionaires run the show.
“the fatal illusion that the Democrats can be pressured into serving the interests of working people, and the union apparatus can be forced to oppose the corporations and the government.”
“Mamdani-backed candidates win NYC congressional primaries: The political issues”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/25/gmgp-j25.html
Jefferson Hamilton
>The last chance to avoid America going to Hell was Obama.
Obama was a direct consequence of America going to hell, not a last chance. The real last chance was…I don’t know, LBJ, maybe? America has been fucked for a very long time, and this is too little, FAR too late. But, you know, I guess I’ll take it, whatever.
mago
@Jefferson Hamilton re: But, you know, I guess I’ll take it, whatever.
Damn straight you will. Straight up where the sun don’t shine cause you didn’t climb up and piss down. And no, it’s not raindrops falling on your head.
LBJ, that Texas good old boy—a born politician. A mixed bag. His Great Society movement a good one, his Vietnam war escalation, not so much.
I wrote an eighth grade essay about him back in the day, but what I remember is an anecdote probably read in Playboy magazine where he stands at the head of the table at a Chief of Staff meeting, whips out his dong and demands, “Does Ho Chi Minh have one like that?”
Those were the days . . .
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responseTwo could be right. Or Ian Welsh could be right. Or others could be right.
America contains probably near 300 million voting age citizens. That’s enough people to where even if there were ten separate Theories Of Change( TOC) , there could be 30 million people acting on each separate Theory Of Change (TOC). Each separate 30 million people grouped around each of ten separate TOCs ( Theories Of Change) could call themselves a TAG ( Theory Action Group). Ten big TAGs for ten different TOCs.
Let them leave eachother alone while each TAG pursues its own TOC. Every so often, the different TAGloads of people can compare notes on how each separate TAG is getting with its very own TOC. And let Darwin decide which one(s) are doing the best and achieving the most. People might well migrate from failing TAGs to successful TAGs, which would make the successful TAGs even bigger, hence even stronger, hence even more successful.
And people weeping over the “fact” that Sanders was “just like the others” studiously and carefully ignore the fact that his several-million supporters have an ongoing opportunity to stay in touch with eachother and figure out various things and stuff to try doing. They don’t have to let the people with JLS ( Jilted Lover Syndrome) over Sanders demotivate them. They can if they want to. But they don’t have to.
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Meanwhile, up in Canada . . .
“A woman hiking in Canada with her dog had a terrifying close encounter with a massive grizzly bear. She somehow kept her cool during the intense standoff, and both she and her dog managed to walk away unharmed.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1uggdbh/a_woman_hiking_in_canada_with_her_dog_had_a/
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Here is a video showing the face of the KlanMAGA Republicanfederate Party. The face is talking in this video.
“Mike Johnson vows to protect Republicans from investigations if the GOP loses the 2026 midterms: “I run the protection program. We’ll take care of you. ” ”
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1ugj7ic/mike_johnson_vows_to_protect_republicans_from/
This is the kind of creature that bipartisan kumbaya DemoCucks want to “reach across the aisle” to and “show civility” towards. Bipartisanship Cucks will have to be purged and burned out of the Democratic Party, right along with the Clintonites and the Obamazoids, if we want the Democratic Party to be the Mighty Tire Iron of Justice which we swing into the grinning teeth of the Republicanfederate Party and the Conservative Family of Movements.
Dan Kelly
JFK couldn’t stand Johnson and was going to get rid of him when he won again if he had lived.
Johnson was so Zionized it’s hard to know where to begin. He did nothing for the USS Liberty sailors.
Remember, Kennedy was working with John McCone to bypass the equally-if-not-moreso Zionized Jesus Angleton who Jewish Mossad guys said was more ‘Jewish’ than they were.
I like the great society programs too just like I like FDR’s Social Security et al but why oh why oh why do we alway have to have more war and why do these guys all lie about it?
Every. Fucking. Time.
FDR promised no war because the US was still very non-interventionist on the whole at the time though not so much as WWI which Wilson lied about.
The economic libertarians do a better job on the whole ‘being antiwar’ but they talk about the ‘welfare-warfare’ state always putting the welfare first!!!
The left isn’t into this every-person-for-themselves bullshit and oh the churches will fill the need but they are awful on maintaining an antiwar stance when the shit hits the fan and it really counts.
Rant done.
Mark Level
I had to wait to comment on this due to the 50+ & counting Thread that (Captain Obvious, still needed to be said to counter the Narrative) Russia Isn’t Losing, which called LAS’s fellow keyboard commando Nihilist-Banderist-Fascist NAFO Troll buddies to scuttle out of the woodwork like Cockroaches. Nota Bene, it’s a metaphor, I’m not calling these Racist Shitheads literal cockroaches, unlike that crowd I don’t go there. I will go to “The Only Good Nazi is a Dead Nazi,” however, growing up with a German-Jewish last name and looking like a Jew (actual Middle-Eastern Jew, not the pale AshkeNazi variety, 10% Mediterranean blood and 1% Mongol) and being active in the Punk scene, from age 23 to my late 30s intensively, later on as late as my late 50s, I had Skinheads threaten me and my friends–only when they outnumbered us, and they were never actually brave enough to start a real fight. The closest I ever got was when one of them screamed “Dirty Kike!!” at me and hocked out a loogie which missed contact. A good thing as I knew how to fight, & had it hit me I would’ve beaten that piece of shit into a bloody pulp until bar security stopped me. (Not sure if that was at a New Orleans VFW Hall or not, they didn’t have strong security like bars do.) I also lost a once close friend to Nazi Ideology, old friend Keith Schuerholz, an OTO luminary at one time, grew up with Quaker parents in New York, very well-educated. The Anti-Semite current hit him when he rebelled against his parents’ kind Pacifism, first he became virulently anti-Semitic (despite the OTO being generally Philosemetic, the Hebrew Tree of Life a central Crowley Obsession since his Order of the Golden Dawn days; the 10 (or 11 if you’re really in the know, Daath/Knowledge only makes rare appearances when one crosses the Abyss into the top 3 Sephira, it’s like protons that switch from wave to particle depending on the moment measured), and the 22 Paths corresponding to the 22 Hebrew letters. My Hebrew for Qabalah, and ONLY for that, written and spoken is pretty solid. Even though a lot of the sounds are so UGLY, I learnt from the best, Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan in his book Sepher Yetzirah: In Theory and Practice.” One example the word HQQ; pronounced HakhQoth, throat-clearing, “He engraved,” past tense, YHVH Alhim engraved on his Holy Throne. But when I watched the Israeli atrocities, commercial signs like for Burger King, Bvrgr Malekh!! Back to Schuerholz, after starting the slide with Anti-Semitism, he went anti-Black, anti-Gay, etc. Is now in some kind of Naz-Boy Cult, they revere both Hitler AND Stalin. (I’ll meet them halfway on Stalin, if only to troll LAS. Never on 88.)
I knew LAS would angrily troll of course, he rarely disappoints, keeps coming back despite Ian slapping him down every time. Won’t even bother with his Gospel of Despair, Things Will Never Change, We are All Doomed, Give Up you Filthy Peasants, Don’t have a Revolution like those Dirty Russian Serfs did, Communism is Bad, Shelter at Home and be quiet!! Blumenthal and Mate today note since this election, a “Commie Corridor” has been decried in NYC by the Rightists and Zionists. If only!! Finster joins in of course, loves him some Gospel of Despair, I’m with him about 75% of the time, agin’ him the other 25%. Larry Johnson recently clarified that in fact, pace Gilbert Doctorow, Putin is NOT widely hated by Russians, he’s the No WWIII wing, Hard-Liners may be right, it may be unavoidable at this point. But my turning on him was premature, an emotional response to his seeming weakness, Johnson knows more than me or Finster, so I will use my mind, not my heart, and not hate on Vlad excessively for the time being. And Ian being a dumb sap wearing rose-colored glasses doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.
I previewed the Due Dissidence content earlier, will go deeper into it now. My favorite part of their coverage was exposing A!O!C! endorsing the Genocidal Lunatic Leticia James, a black woman who desires Palestinian Extinction as fervently as LAS revels at Fires Set and Children killed by Euro-drones, they’re Russian, ALL need to DIE!!
Since 2019, Ms. James the New York State Attorney General, presumably like Gov. Hochul and that Police Chief Mamdami didn’t remove, yet, from an Oligarch Zionist Family (in the Italian sense) sicced New Yorks Filthiest (not finest) on Jewish and Goy College Kids to beat, arrest, and doxx them.
AOC’s mind is fully occupied by “Mama Bear” Nancy Pelosi, Mama broke her when she voted against the Iron Dome, she cried on stage, went back and supported it against what her Constituents wanted. Rationale, “I’m not supporting the Murder of Palestinians, I’m only supporting Safety Vests for the Murderers of Palestinians, coz All Lives Matter!!” Brilliant.
AOC who lied, Democrat Party later admitted it was 100% False, the claim “Joe and Kamala are working Tirelessly (sic, Joe a dozing dotard, couldn’t do anything tirelessly, not even eat ice cream) to get a Cease-Fire!!” Shameless lying.
So she endorsed James less than a month after James marched alongside Beezlebub Smotrich and the Israeli Dude who set up the Mosaic Law group “Ve must kill all dere filthy Sodomites, rape the women virst so they at least know what schmeckel’s glory is like!!” “Rape the faggots too, they’re as filthy as Palestinians” Hate Group. (Don’t use Putz, that’s a diminutive for penis, unworthy. My knowledge of Yiddish mainly coz I loved the Marx Brothers so much growing up.)
The MOST hateful, racist, genocidal Screeching was directed at a half-Haitian and Dominican woman who WON despite a tiny campaign chest, per Russ Dobular he’d only seen one wall in his Harlem neighborhood with her campaign signs on it. Meantime he was getting Insane, Exterminationist Slick Flyers in the Mail every day from the Zios.
Darializa Avila Chevalier, what a beautiful name and she’s a stunner as well, DD had film of her going to vote, 2 fat, disgusting Jewish men follow her at 8 feet behind, screaming “JEW HATER!! JEW HATER!!” People like this are why people like Chevalier become popular. She was mature and serious, didn’t scream back at the pursuers “Pro-Genocide Fanatics!”, a shoe that would’ve fit well.
Here’s another data point from Due Dissidence. Mamdami supported Brad Lander, a “Progressive Zionist” who has come around to blocking weapons to the Zionist Entity/ZE, enraging J-Street and other “liberal (sic) Zionists.” Tit-for-tat, they each endorsed each other contra Cuomo, this is a case where I’m with DC and will support Lesser Evilism, nobody as evil as Cuomo, well Eric Adams, even less politically successful.
The NYT called Lander a “moderate Zionist”– maybe that means he supports slow-walking the mass extermination of elderly, women and children, civilians, like Putin very careful (even NYT admitted early in SMO), considers the majority of Ukrainians “our people,” in not killing Civilians, not doing Terrorist Acts like the ones LAS praised: “If drones set 8 fires in Russia today, and we’ve got film of them, it’s official!! Ukraine has WON THE WAR!!”
Here’s another case of hyperbolic Overdrive, from the Grayzone– Lander beat the odious Gold.Man, an MSDNC “superstar” per Aaron, led the failed Impeachment attempt against Trump last term, a loser with the non-Boomer cloud. Chevalier and another ACTUAL Progressive who won, a woman, Aaron calls actual Radicals, both have denounced the wasteful Ukraine war, feeding more Ukies into the wood-chipper. Aaron says IF they can hold onto that actual sensible thinking, for more than 24 hours, they will be real Change Representatives, not Smarmy liars like AOC.
Mamdami won due to real, material changes for average New Yorkers, as Ian rightly notes, and the voters, in the 2nd most Jewish-populated City in the world, are with the majority of people sick of the nearly 3 years of 8 fronts Genocide.
I just read a 13 month old piece in Harper’s by Ben Ehrenreich, Barbara’s son, about mainly his time in the West Bank, over 20 pp., horribly depressing. Thesis, the Palestinians by presstime, March 2025, knew that Peaceful Ghandian protest availed nothing, they were all targeted for “annihilation” in the words of 1 IDF officer, one local Israeli Official admitted the frequent “pogroms” in Ramallah and elsewhere too much for the world to see. He went to protect the Olive Trees at Harvest time with others, largely a Quixotic effort but with an American like him filming them, 2 Italian women also, IDF would only threaten to shoot them, shoo them away and make some arrests, and not kill them outright. I own Max Blumenthal’s Goliath, bought it as soon as it was out. I have only read 1/3 to 1/2, I’m an empathetic person, bummed out and depressed at nearly every chapter I finished. Like Feral Finster-level despair.
Anyway, back to the main topic at hand: I did do a quick update likely on Wednesday morning, as Weiss and Dobular and their Elections Expert who goes by “Cool Blue” live on Tuesday night, he called both midterms and federal elections very accurately since at least the time of Biden. It can easily be found, as can a clip of George Galloway on MOATS admitting he was 100% Wrong on Mamdami, a sincere mea culpa. Zohran a bellweather, as both Ian and I have noted. NOT fake Obama Hopium either, somewhat too cautious for my taste but better than I’d expected.
responseTwo, correct. AOC is dogshit, Bernie too–(not a Dem but symps for them, and for no Palestinian 2 state solution, “It would be the end of Israel as a Jewish state!!” Exterminating all Palestinians worldwide, good says Bernie. Reining in the Zionist Entity a bit, can’t be even imagined, much less done!!
Polling shows the tide has never turned so fast, not during Vietnam, never in recorded US & World history. A live-streamed genocide spread over years, with the Killers trumpeting their right to Annihilate. Even the Nazis played the Victims with more sincerity than the Ashkenazi Transplants killing the actual descendants of the Jews, while Ambassador Mike Huckabee applauds the burning down of Christian Villages.
I’ll close here with Max and Aaron calling out a RapePublican candidate for Governor, “Bruce Blakeman” sounds pretty goddamn Goyisch to me; opposing Brad Lander, he says “Brad Lander, he’s a Disgrace!!He’s Anti-American, He’s Anti-Semitic even though he’s a Jew, this guy would be a Camp Guard in a Concentration Camp if he could [knows his potential voters are stupid knuckle-draggers, doesn’t use the simple 2 syllable word, Capo], He’s a Disaster!” etc. Max and Aaron think he will lose, he’s on NewsMax, Extremist. Dan Goldman a victim “banned from a NYC Coffee shop,” Sean Hannity while crying reports this, and “a transformation in the Democratic party”, frightening!! What less would this Trump butt-licker expect if there are actual “Radical Left Democrats!!” Never been to NYC, but the public there smart, well-educated.
But again, the DimmiCrap Party officials will nearly ALL be pro-Genocide, paid to be. It is a transformation among formerly Democrat party Voters, that’s what it feared. Dobular and Weiss observed “No, you can’t vote your way out of a genocide, nor can you podcast your way out of a genocide”, but over time as the actual Political Zeitgeist changes, old structures won’t die. When I protested the Minnesota Dem Party Convention in Duluth a couple years back, they’d fled North to only 82K little Duluth because they would’ve had a Tidal Wave of protests in the Twin Cities, a Teacher Delagate came out and told us, “The people in there are Terrified of you!! Because they know you are former Dem voters.”
Not gonna get into Jeff H’s and mago’s dispute over when America went bad: Could be with the JFK Public Ceremonial King-Killing, filmed, doubt it was LBJ who sacrificed his Presidency, chose Guns over Butter, keeping the Gooks from going Red the highest priority (maybe even LAS wouldn’t go this far? I wonder), probably it was when the first Naragansett Indians were slaughtered by Christian “Pilgrims”, or when the first African Slave chattle were unloaded on future US territory.
Money doesn’t talk it swears, Evil the same. The Mask is slipping, the hour is late!! Revolt, or die!! You can’t have Revolution without R e v o l and t, TCB as the Colored Girls sang back in the 60s.
Feral Finster
@Ian W:
I didn’t say you had a predilection for haply horseshit, but it follows from your statement that you were complaining that L&S wasn’t optimistic enough
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This upcoming election also provides at least one very good opportunity to ratfuck the Republicanfederate Party.
Massie lost his primary in his district. What if he were to enter that race and run as an Independent, running on No Arms to Israel, release ALL the Epstein Files, etc.? Could he degrade the Republicanfederate candidate’s vote totals enough to where the Democrat would win? Could he do even better than that? Could he actually win as an Independent? This would be a very powerful demonstration of AIPAC’s weakening power over the long run.f
I also wonder how much of Massie’s defeat was due to AIPAC-and-adjacent money and how much was due to Trump commanding his worshipful MAGAnons to vote for the Trump-supported primary opponent. Would forensic political analysts be able to figure that out? I know that two other Republican primary runners were defeated by Trump-supported challengers. I don’t remember AIPAC being a strong presence or question in those other two primaries . . . Cassidy and that other one. Did either Cassidy or his opponent get and spend more money? If so, from where? Especially if not from Axis of AIPAC? Because if Cassidy and that other guy both spent as much as or more money than their opponents, then Trump’s commandment to his worshipful MAGAnons would be the entire difference maker in those two cases.
And did Cassidy and that other guy lose their primaries by a narrower margin that Massie lost his by?
Hopefully some forensic political analysts will work on all corners of this question.
Forecasting Intelligence
I find that childcare comment absolutely hilarious.
I live in a jurisdiction that can probably be described as a liberal conservative permanent government (we don’t have parties really but independent politicians who mainly lean centre-right). Free and/or subsidised child-care costs were bought in the last few years.
There is nothing inherently socialist about that!
spud
Mark Level:
the Gandhi thing is a myth.
https://theconversation.com/the-forgotten-violence-that-helped-india-break-free-from-colonial-rule-57904
The forgotten violence that helped India break free from colonial rule
Published: November 9, 2016 10:45am EST
The road to independence was not a simple tale of civil disobedience
“The popular view of India’s journey to independence from British rule is the famous story of Mohandas Gandhi’s extraordinary campaign of non-violent protest. It is a heritage still marked today during international state visits.
But there was another, often forgotten – and much less peaceful – side to the struggle for Indian independence.”
…
Mark Level
spud, of course I take your point, and already knew it. Successful Revolutions have 2 faces, we could say, not 2 cheeks of the same Arse, as Galloway or somebody else coined for the duopoly.
I know there was violence, the masses were able to kill British soldiers, in a place where the Locals outnumbered the Settler Colonists by a factor of many 100s if not 1,000s. As in the Bolshevik revolution, the armed gunman could kill 1,000s, couldn’t stop the flame of Revolt.
The 2nd Janus-face was Gandhi’s noble way, a type of PR jujitsu to show clearly who was noble and good, and who were the Monsters, Looters and rapists. Churchill went from joking about how Gandhi was just “a little brown man in a diaper,” to being voted out of office after the close of WW II, even the bloodthirsty Brits didn’t want their Empire anymore. (Though of course the likes of Thatcher, Starmer et al have kept that Frankenstein Monster on life support ever since. But it’s a considerably shrunken Frankenstein, about 8 inches tall, not too powerful, on its last legs.)
Feral Finster, when is Lie and Suborn “optimistic” about anything? I know of only 2 factory settings: When TPTB are winning and he can preach his slop about how we should all give up, support Susan Collins, she is so cool for single-handedly destroying Roe v. Wade (okay, Ruth Bader-Ginsburg’s arrogance the 2nd cheek on that Arse), or when “They’re blowing up Russian Shit!! UKRAINE HAS WON THE WAR!! BANDERISM IS VINDICATED!”
I’ve defended LAS exactly once that I recall, when someone called him a Senyorita!! LAS uses plenty of Ad Hominems, but still does not deserve to be treated that way, his scrambled egg opinions thrown against the wall can be discredited with clear facts and arguments, not borderline homophobic taunts.
Oh, and the song I quoted, connecting partial anagrams R e v o l u t i o n & R e v o l t was Aretha Franklins Just a Little R e s p e c t!!
Actually written by Otis Redding, which I’d forgotten. “Take Care TCB” “Take Care (of) Business. Need to have your shit together to create social change. The Dimmie Party doesn’t have its shit together, nor do the RapePublicans. IF real change is coming, it will only come from the grassroots, and organizing across the lines of race, class, gender, etc. Are ‘Muricans capable? I’m not optimistic, but then again, they could be driven to it.
[Written by Otis Redding]
[Verse 1]
What you want, baby, I got it
What you need, do you know I got it?
[Chorus]
All I’m askin’ is for a little respect when you come home
(Just a little bit) Hey, baby
(Just a little bit) When you get home
(Just a little bit) Mister
(Just a little bit)
[Verse 2]
I ain’t gon’ do you wrong while you’re gone
Ain’t gon’ do you wrong ’cause I don’t wanna
[Chorus]
All I’m askin’ is for a little respect when you come home
(Just a little bit) Baby
(Just a little bit) When you get home
(Just a little bit) Yeah
(Just a little bit)
[Verse 3]
I’m about to give you all of my money
And all I’m askin’ in return, honey
Is to give me my propers when you get home
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[Refrain]
(Just a, just a, just a, just a) Yeah, baby
(Just a, just a, just a, just a) When you get home
(Just a little bit) Yeah
(Just a little bit)
[Instrumental]
[Verse 4]
Ooh, your kisses, sweeter than honey
And guess what? So is my money
[Chorus]
All I want you to do for me is give it to me when you get home
(Re, re, re, re) Yeah, baby
(Re, re, re, re) Whip it to me
(Respect, just a little bit) When you get home, now
(Just a little bit)
[Verse 5]
R-E-S-P-E-C-T, find out what it means to me
R-E-S-P-E-C-T, take care of T-C-B
[Outro]
(Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me)
A little respect
(Sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me, sock it to me)
Woah, babe
(Just a little bit) A little respect
(Just a little bit) I get tired
(Just a little bit) Keep on tryin’
(Just a little bit) You’re runnin’ out of fools
(Just a little bit) And I ain’t lyin’
(Just a little bit)
(Re, re, re, re) Start when you come home
(Re, re, re, respect) Or you might walk in
(Just a little bit) And find out I’m gone
(Just a little bit) I gotta have
(Just a little bit) A little respect
(Just a little bit)