Not sure if I’ve posted this observation here before, but here it is again:
Trump wants Greenland not because of China or Russia, but to control emerging Arctic trade routes that will allow shipping and trade to bypass the Atlantic/Pacific routes and the U.S./Panama choke point. Greenland’s location would let the U.S. control direct shipping between Asia and Canada–Europe, giving America long-term leverage to keep Canada and Europe “in line” economically and strategically.
Also, last week I posted about the risks and existential threats posed by U.S. annexation of Greenland to the Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut, who actually make up roughly 90 percent of Greenland’s population:
Given that many of you here are Canadians and Europeans, I want to propose an idea for Canada and Denmark to outplay Trump and the U.S., secure their future interests in the Arctic, and protect the Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut population of Greenland.
Are the DimmieCraps any better than the ReThugs? Any less devoted to endless war? No, in fact they love war even more, and profiteer at about the same level– Here, from Harper’s issue of July, 2023, headlines from Anne Applebaum. (American Apple Pie Bombs for All; she is not as well named as Anne Marie Slaughter, or Samantha Power. Anne hates the Russkies ‘coz they defeated the 3rd Reich. Her husband is the Polish PM, Sikorsky, who when Sullivan and Blinken bombed Nordstream immediately Tweeted a picture of the Carbon release, the largest known in human history, with the words “Thank You, USA” then immediately deleted it.)
Anyway, here’s a list of the Fear Factor and 5 Minutes of Hate headlines Applebomb published in the NYT through mid-2023:
“Putin concluded that spontaneity is dangerous. Protest is dangerous. Talk of democracy is dangerous.
Autocrats have risen before; they have used mass violence before; they have broken the laws of war before.
He wants to destabilize Ukraine, frighten Ukraine. He wants Ukrainian democracy to fail. He wants the Ukrainian economy to collapse. He wants to keep dictators in power. He wants to undermine America. He wants America itself to fail.
There are questions about troop numbers, questions about diplomacy. There are questions about the Ukrainian military, its weapons, and its soldiers. There are questions about Germany and France. There are questions about America.
Yet another frozen conflict, yet another temporary holding pattern, yet another face-saving compromise will not end the pattern of Russian aggression.
Ukrainians are waiting for the counteroffensive. Europeans are waiting for the counteroffensive. Central Asians are waiting for the counteroffensive. Belarusians, Venezuelans, Iranians, and others are all waiting for the counteroffensive.
You are not safe. You are never safe. Not even if you live in a democracy; not even if you have political asylum; not even if you are sitting on a plane, thousands of feet above the ground.”
Putin is dangerous because he stirs up “fear.” Applebaum is wise and enlightened ‘coz she stirs up fear, “You are never safe!!!” etc. Do the spawn of Elites like Sikorsky and Applebaum serve or die in the endless wars? George Bush Sr. was shot down during WW II; Junior defended the skies of Texas against the North Vietnamese threat. His only danger would’ve been if he was as poor a pilot as John McCain.
Context: Why Denmark Cannot Simply Say “No” to the U.S.
Before any of this happens, it’s important to understand the strategic reality Denmark is operating under.
Denmark is a small country facing pressure from a superpower. It does not have the political, economic, or military weight to withstand sustained U.S. pressure — especially from a Trump administration that bullies allies, threatens military action, or imposes tariffs for leverage. Simply refusing U.S. demands outright is not a viable long-term strategy for Copenhagen.
At the same time, NATO itself would likely pressure Denmark to “manage” the situation rather than escalate it. NATO’s overriding instinct is self-preservation: avoid internal conflict, avoid confrontation with the U.S., and maintain alliance cohesion. Denmark could easily find itself isolated if it is seen as the obstacle to Trump’s demands regarding Greenland.
This is why Denmark’s best move is not resistance, but deflection, redirection, and surprise: shift the confrontation and decision away from itself and onto an unassailable principle—Greenlandic self-determination.
• ~88–90% of Greenland’s population is Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut.
• U.S. sovereignty—especially under Trump/Miller—represents an existential threat.
• Independence looks risky: a small, defenseless, militarily weak Greenland could become a target for coercion.
• Why vote to join Canada?
• Indigenous Greenlanders have longstanding cultural, familial, and economic ties with Inuit communities in Canada (Nunavut, Northwest Territories, northern Quebec/Labrador).
• Many travel regularly across the sea for trade, ceremonies, and family visits.
• Goods, art, and subsistence trade flow naturally between Greenlandic and Canadian Inuit.
• These ties make Canada the natural partner socially, culturally, and economically.
• Canadian Inuit society, language (Inuktitut and dialects), and governance of Indigenous affairs are familiar and compatible.
• Integration with Canada is practically and socially easier than joining the U.S., which is alien in culture and hostile in policy.
• Cross-border ties provide Canada with a quiet but effective channel to encourage pro-Canada votes.
• The U.S. will not invade Canada or a Canadian territory. Canada provides geographic proximity, Indigenous continuity, democratic legitimacy, and security.
• Timing is critical: rapid action prevents U.S. pressure campaigns from gaining traction.
• Behind the scenes, Denmark and Canada have already been quietly coordinating the transfer.
• After the transfer, Canada and Denmark announces a special arrangement: Denmark retains full or partial access to Greenland (strategic, research, military) without the financial burden of subsidizing Greenland’s government, while Canada assumes sovereignty and administrative responsibility.
I misstated where the Appfelbaum (the real origin of the name, Deutsche) was shared, it was all those declarative false assertions in the Atlantic, a perhaps even more irrationally-Imperialist rag than the NYT. They are both equally Zionist though.
I thank KTC for all the strategy; his suggestions are similar to the real plebiscites the Russians ran in Russian-dominated regions that will form the soon-launched Novorossiya. But such logic will not even factor in what Trump, drunken Hegseth and Stephen Miller do. They don’t believe in voting nor consent, they only believe in Power and Might, Violence. They’ll fuck it up in Greenland though and turn people against them relatively quickly, I’d bet.
If the Dimmies win the mid-terms and manage to impeach Trump I’d also bet that they keep Greenland as the Empire’s property. They are bipartisan in their land-money-power lust, after all.
Latest post from Rob Urie brings the usual well-documented critique of both sides of the US Uniparty.
Stopped by Kos out of curiosity and it was worse than I expected. Kos was carrying on about the brave freedom fighters in Iran protesting their oppressive government. It was enough to make me wonder if he works for Mossad, but I think the truth is that he is just a useful idiot. How embarrassing for him. Sites like his will be cited decades from now in academic studies when historians try to figure out how this country went off the rails.
Conclusion: Why Canada, Denmark, and Greenland Would Want to Do This
• Canada strengthens Arctic sovereignty, blocks U.S. control of critical Arctic trade routes, and secures long-term economic and geopolitical interests.
• Denmark avoids a confrontation it cannot win, sheds a costly responsibility, and preserves its dignity and legitimacy.
• Greenland gains security, Indigenous continuity, and self-determination.
• The U.S. is denied control of Arctic shipping chokepoints and permanent leverage over Canada and Europe.
• All of this is achieved without firing a single bullet or breaking a law.
• Bonus: the world gets to watch Trump huff and puff impotently:
“CANADA IS SO UNGRATEFUL TO AMERICA!”
“DENMARK IS NOT BEING NICE! I WAS SO NICE TO THEM!”
KTC presumes rational actors acting rationally. Heh. Yeah, good luck with that.
ML scores points per usual. His first post sparked thoughts on girly power girls at play with their giddy delusions.
Former Finland PM Sanna Marin promotes perpetual war against the Ruskies unless they abandon their Ukie gains including Crimea. Then there’s the other Euro Fight Club beeches Jalinda Ardern, Kaja Kallas, and Annalena Baerbock stinking up the Star Wars barroom with their feisty sweaty hormones.
They’ve got their male analogs, older but no wiser, like Merz, Macron and Starmer, while on the other side of the pond the swamp bitch crowd goes crazy.
Puppy killers, ass and boot lickers, crazy haters one and all. Toxic in body speech and mind.
This bodes ill for one and all, but you know what? Everyday I celebrate another day of living. (Sly Stone is another story).
As some here know I live in one of the reddest of the red states.
Yesterday, I attended town hall with two independents running against republicans. One running for an open house seat, one running for an open senate seat. Both, Gen Xers. Both military vets. And, both squarely aligned against anything resembling a trump policy. The hall was well attended by both republicans and libs who all seemed to report that the two parties are both out of control and we need a change.
The two pols also spoke about the number of independents who are lining up against establishment candidates of both parties — suffice to say, there are a bunch of them.
My take, political change is in the air. The geriatric duopoly is on it’s final vericosed legs. People have entirely lost faith in either party having the answers. Pretty sure we’re seeing the end of the kick the bums out and try the other party approach. People want to kick the entire duopoly out.
from the Rob Urie post I linked to earlier – “Those who I left behind are now called the ‘imperialist left’, left supporters of imperialist policies because they are explained in terms of humanitarian aid, e.g. the war in Ukraine.” That breakdown stood out for me because it was exactly what shocked me about the tirade Kos posted about Iran.
KT Chong – Your solution to Greenland’s dilemma is elegant. My problem is that I can’t imagine the leaders involved doing anything that smart. I would love to be wrong because it would be great to see things handled the way you laid it out.
E Anderson – I hope you are right. Last I heard, independents outnumber supporters of both legacy parties.
The referendum suggestion reminds me of an episode in European history – Hitler was making noises of annexing Austria, had already subverted a small but vocal part of the population and some of the press. Cornered, the Austrian Chancellor scheduled a referendum so that the people would be able to decide if they wanted to be annexed.
Hitler (probably fully aware that he could not count on a win in a free and fair referendum) occupied the country before the date of the referendum, but did not cancel it. Instead he mobilized all his supporters for a rapturous reception in Vienna, making it look like nearly everyone was on board.
According to my late grandmother, who lived in Innsbruck (Tyrol) at the time, when she went to participate in the referendum a uniformed German soldier was looking over her shoulder. Unnerved, she asked (naively) if it was possible to vote no, whereupon he whipped out a notebook and asked for her name and address in a threatening tone. She voted as directed. –
Apparently in a tiny Tyrolean village where they forgot to station watchers everybody voted for continfued independence, so who knows how a fair referendum would have ended.
My conclusion: against dictators and their goons, referenda won’t be effective. They will just game them or ignore them.
Counter: European troops are already in Greenland on the ground. Stay there until the referendum is over, which should deter Trump from sending in U.S. troop.
There is no political solution to this. There can’t be. It is beyond politics at this point and it/’s counterproductive to invest any further energy in such a notion.
Thanks to Mago’s kind and relevant words, and yes, the “young spokesmodels for Western fascism” “Girl Boss” movement contains a lot of recruited empty-headed, history Know Knothing bellicose broads. It seems Fox-branded on the surface, but the Dimmies went all Fox too, Abigail Spanberger, CIA’ed out, likely participated in torture of innocents abroad is now installed as Governor of Virginia. It is the cradle of American Slavery, so fitting enough.
I think the worst is Kallas, Baerbock’s useful idiot days are over but she was likely the stupidest, with Baerbock Math, if you do a 360 degree turn that does NOT change anything it puts you back where you started. She may be too old to go back to her previous to politics gig, Trapeze Lady (not kidding), so wonder how much she’ll earn. She sucked up a lotta Wingnut Welfare so she’ll be okay for awhile.
Nice to see someofparts back with good shares again also. I agree with Eric Anderson, more people know the Duopoly is rigged and broken, perhaps the giant Glacier of Austerity and Empire will start melting like those Alaska and Greenland ones, under Climate change . . . it will be slow, necessarily, TPTB of the Far Right Daddies and the Center Right Mommies will resist and gaslight as thoroughly as they can. The Ugly Truth can be seen by anyone with eyes open and not in TPTB, not the DC types, obviously.
I think Drumpf is gonna fuck something up bigly, plus this year it’s clear, the SMO will end in Victory for Russia, which will dishearten the US-Euro Imperialist War Pigs greatly.
The ICE Reich will anger more ordinary folks, hell, the likes of Bloody Bill Kristol (!) & Tim Poole have come out against it. We’ve got one commenter here whose fine if they kill Lesbians and people who spend too much time on Instagram (maybe both are required) but there are always Outliers. And when does Donnie crash the economy? Can’t be too far in the future.
I’m not ready to sing Leonard Cohen’s “Democracy is Coming to the USA” currently, but perhaps as the Enshitification of the US political trickery game and the economy peak, there will be a counter-current, or even a growing counterculture not obsessed with Guns, hatred of Trans- and non-white people, Fetus fanaticism, etc., an Actual Left?
One can dream, as long as one’s learned what Barry Obama taught, Hope must be abandoned as useless.
Anyway, I have gamed out the possible outcomes and scenarios with the current trajectory. I am not going to get into each possible outcome and scenario, but…
Every Outcome and Scenario to Annex Greenland Will Benefit China and Russia to Various Degrees, and Harm Canada, Europe, and Even the U.S.:
1. Trump’s Likely Motivation vs Reality
• Trump sees Greenland as a way to control Arctic trade routes, resources, and leverage over Canada and Europe.
• Resource extraction is largely illusory: Greenland still depends on Danish subsidies; infrastructure costs and timelines are enormous; building and maintaining facilities in the harsh Arctic environment is extremely difficult and expensive; and mining operations are economically marginal, technically challenging, and unlikely to be viable year-round.
• Military value is marginal: the U.S. already has access to Greenland through treaties with Denmark and NATO. Annexation creates a resource- and force-draining liability rather than a strategic asset.
• His main gain is short-term leverage and ego — coercion of allies, symbolic conquest, and domestic optics.
2. Strategic Downside for the U.S.
• Annexation would sour relations with Canada and Europe; no one likes being kept on a leash.
• Greenland becomes a military sink: the U.S. must defend it in a major-power war with China and/or Russia, either under-manned (inviting Chinese/Russian probing/flanking) or over-manned (diverting resources from main theaters.)
• Allies will be far less willing to contribute to Greenland’s defense because relations have soured and it is now “America’s problem.”
• The U.S. would take on enormous costs — fiscal, military, and diplomatic — for minimal economic and strategic return.
• Even under the current trajectory, U.S. forced annexation of Greenland will fracture NATO credibility and weaken Western alliances.
3. Why Russia Benefits
• NATO is Russia’s primary strategic threat.
• U.S. annexation or coercion of Greenland would fracture NATO, creating internal conflict and weakening NATO’s cohesion.
• This is a big win for Russia: Best-case scenario for them, NATO implodes — and given the Greenland situation, that outcome is increasingly likely.
4. Why China Benefits
• China gains from a divided West, especially deteriorating U.S.–Europe relations.
• Europe, reeling from U.S. coercion, will pursue strategic diversification, seeking closer tie and trading more with China. (Russia is currently not a viable option for Europe due to the Ukraine War.)
• Free Arctic trade routes to Europe and Canada are beneficial but not existential — China gains efficiency and options without needing Greenland itself.
• Even if the U.S. controls Greenland and restricts Arctic access, it is mostly a continuation of the status quo for China; China’s relative position improves versus the U.S., because Western cohesion is weakened.
• For trade and transit, China can simply use the Russian side of the Northern Sea Routes instead of relying on Greenland, maintaining access to Canada and Europe without confronting the U.S. That is not an option for Canada and Europe as relations with Russia are strained.
5. Canada and Europe Are the Biggest Potential Losers
• Loss of agency over their own trade routes and strategic autonomy.
• Permanent U.S. leverage over Canada and Europe under Greenland annexation.
• Forced to rely on U.S. permission for Arctic access and security, reducing independence in policy and trade.
6. The Biggest Loser: Greenland’s Indigenous Population
• If Greenland falls under U.S. control, Trump and Stephen Miller are likely to pursue the same policies they have in the U.S.: Cutting subsidies, welfare, and public services; Blaming Brown people for economic burdens.
• As Greenland is structurally dependent on support (Denmark’s subsidies currently cover government and social costs), the economic shortfall would hit Indigenous Greenlanders hardest.
• Worst-case that is quite likely to happen under the current Trump-Miller regime: The administration could attempt forced relocations or “incentives” to leave, potentially pushing Indigenous Greenlanders into Canada — creating additional costs and problems for Canada.
• In short: Greenland’s Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut would bear the lion’s share of the costs and risk.
Key takeaways:
• All trajectories favor China and Russia (to varying degrees).
• U.S. gains (if they are even considered as gains) are mostly optic, temporary, or counterproductive.
• Canada and Europe lose if the U.S. seizes Greenland
• The biggest loser: Greenland’s Indigenous population.
mago: “KTC presumes rational actors acting rationally. Heh. Yeah, good luck with that.”
I understand the skepticism — many people think Europe’s actions regarding Russia-Ukraine have been irrational and self-sabotaging. I actually have a framework that explains Europe’s behavior. In that framework, Europe is being perfectly rational.
It’s really about resources and access to resources. Europe is resource-deprived, and its external options are extremely limited. Regime change in Russia — removing Putin to allow exploitation of Russian resources — is simply the best available option: colonization and occupation aren’t viable anymore, East Asia has grown too powerful, Latin America is largely closed off by the U.S., and the Middle East is chaotic and unstable.
When Europe finally accepts that they are unable to change the regime in Russia, I fully expect it to pivot back to Africa with guns and troops — because resource needs haven’t gone away.
Maybe I’ll share the details of this framework in full one day.
Here is an article from Naked Capitalism which I think may be worthy of attention and consideration. It is from Grist . . . .
” Iran’s regime has survived war, sanctions, and uprising. Environmental crises may bring it down.
Decades of water depletion, dam building, and repression of scientists and environmentalists have driven Iran toward ecological crises that are fueling the protests rocking the country. ”
I suspect that the Miller ( trumpenvance) Regime does not yet have any goons in place in Greenland. Which means that if the relevant authorities in Denmark, Greenland and maybe Canada can move swiftly and silently, they could get such a referendum in place and conducted before President Miller has a chance to goon it or game it.
President Miller would then be left to deal with the results after the fact, if this all played out as K T Chong suggests.
( Denmark would have to keep it a secret from the rest of EUrope to avoid and prevent EUropean sabotage, gooning and gaming on behalf of President Miller).
Here is a video of a citizen asking each of many ICE/FedPolice operatives in turn to tell him under what specific authority of what specific law they are blocking off a public street.
” State: MN Date: 1/17/26 MN Combat Veteran asks federal Agents about Minnesota’s public street laws. ”
@KT Chong. I see your point as outlined, but I think inter generational phobias and pathologies play a large in European attitudes towards Russia. It goes back centuries. And, unless there’s a major shift, any colonial moves towards Africa are doomed. The natives are armed and dangerous. Anyway, would be curious to see your framework. Also, yes, any take over of Greenland means death and suffering for the indigenous inhabitants.
The link to Rob Urie is much appreciated. I always appreciate his insights. Thanks someofparts.
Thanks also to Eric Anderson and Mark Level for their insights.
Thanks everyone. I enjoy reading your comments.
Iran’s Water Problems—-Southwest Asia’s Water problems—The World’s Water Problems
At some point in the past couple of years I seem to rcall making a comment about what would be the proximate cause of the collapse of industrial civilization. The causes that I considered were climate change, peak oil, debt related financial collapse,and nuclaer war. I chose climae change. But I think that I should have considered a couple of other options. One option that should have been on the list is a pandemic. But even though I should have included that as an option, I do not think that will be the winner. The other option that I should have considered is lack of fresh water.
In the past I had been thinking about lack of fresh water as a symptom of climate change.
But using up fresh water at an unsustainable rate was happening long before climate change was on the radar of the world. Fresh water shortages are related to but seperate from climate change. Climate change makes it worse but it does not cause the problem.
It is with this new understanding that I put my money, figuratively speaking only, on the lack of fresh water that will cause the the collapse of industrial civilization.
I can not see how any government can continue to function in Iran more than a year or two further down the road. It looks to my like there is going to be complete chaos in not only Iran but in the entire region in the very near future due to lack of water. We should expect a refugee crisis that dwarfs any other movement of refugees in human history. Technology can not save the day.
This regional crisis might not be suffecient to cause to collapse of industrial civilizaiton in the rest of the world. But the ground water that the rest of the world depends upon for agriculture is at low levels in many places.
Before people starve they will steal. After they steal they will turn to canniblism.
It is way way way way to late to prevent these dominoes from falling. Humanity is not even close to an energy transition. And even if we had achieved this energy transition 20 years ago it would have been to late.
I know someone who might have already solved the theoretical and technical problems of creating near-unlimited freshwater, but he intends to take his ideas and solutions out of the country — because he feels, more and more so, that it would be extremely immoral to execute and implement in America.
Also, there is the energy problem that cannot be solved with any carbon-based fuels. He expertise is not in energy, and there is only one country that is currently and aggressively working independently on solving the energy problem, (which also happens to be his energy problem,) and it is not America.
Anyway.
Let just say, don’t worry about freshwater. It won’t be an existential problem… maybe it will be for America, but not for a lot of other countries. America will just have to work out some kind of deal with the country that will have the energy AND technology to create more freshwater.
After 2 winters of only wet spring-type snow, this winter is being colder and we have had a 4 inch dry snowfall, able to be shoveled and moved around.
Last night I shoveled out access paths around my yard perimeter and then I used my Ergo Sleigh brand Yooper Scooper to push all the snow on my little front yard up onto the front part of my side garden. Even with winter flash-thaws, some of the snow will remain there until spring. When real Spring comes, that snow will still be available and in place to feed meltwater into the soil as the soil thaws enough to allow meltwater to soak in and down. That will let that part of the bed build up a start-of-garden-season charge of soil-water to begin the season with.
And also, my most recent gas and electric bill combined comes to $73 and some cents. Fifty dollars and something for the gas, twenty three dollars and something for the electric. And I weigh 260 lbs.
Here is a little video showing a layer of bright blue-green gas slowly spreading around at near-ground level somewhere in Minnesota. Probably somewhere in Minneapolis.
As scary as green gas ( or green fog or green whatever-it-is) may be, one hopes several different people are/ were able to capture little samples of it, either in plastic bags or other things.
” Heavy green gas permeates a Minnesota neighborhood, crawling along the ground as a suspected carcinogenic agent. ”
The various comments in this posting’s thread offer different bits of detailed information about the material possibly involved plus evidence-based reasons as to why various commenters think that is what it may be.
If I can find any linkable entries to ” magnetism in agriculture and horticulture” I will bring them here to inspire possible uses of the ” Harbor Freight magnetic mat”.
KT Chong
Not sure if I’ve posted this observation here before, but here it is again:
Trump wants Greenland not because of China or Russia, but to control emerging Arctic trade routes that will allow shipping and trade to bypass the Atlantic/Pacific routes and the U.S./Panama choke point. Greenland’s location would let the U.S. control direct shipping between Asia and Canada–Europe, giving America long-term leverage to keep Canada and Europe “in line” economically and strategically.
Also, last week I posted about the risks and existential threats posed by U.S. annexation of Greenland to the Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut, who actually make up roughly 90 percent of Greenland’s population:
https://www.ianwelsh.net/open-thread-320/
Given that many of you here are Canadians and Europeans, I want to propose an idea for Canada and Denmark to outplay Trump and the U.S., secure their future interests in the Arctic, and protect the Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut population of Greenland.
Mark Level
Are the DimmieCraps any better than the ReThugs? Any less devoted to endless war? No, in fact they love war even more, and profiteer at about the same level– Here, from Harper’s issue of July, 2023, headlines from Anne Applebaum. (American Apple Pie Bombs for All; she is not as well named as Anne Marie Slaughter, or Samantha Power. Anne hates the Russkies ‘coz they defeated the 3rd Reich. Her husband is the Polish PM, Sikorsky, who when Sullivan and Blinken bombed Nordstream immediately Tweeted a picture of the Carbon release, the largest known in human history, with the words “Thank You, USA” then immediately deleted it.)
https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/09/27/why-did-polish-mep-post-thank-you-usa-along-with-image-of-damaged-nord-stream-pipeline/
Anyway, here’s a list of the Fear Factor and 5 Minutes of Hate headlines Applebomb published in the NYT through mid-2023:
“Putin concluded that spontaneity is dangerous. Protest is dangerous. Talk of democracy is dangerous.
Autocrats have risen before; they have used mass violence before; they have broken the laws of war before.
He wants to destabilize Ukraine, frighten Ukraine. He wants Ukrainian democracy to fail. He wants the Ukrainian economy to collapse. He wants to keep dictators in power. He wants to undermine America. He wants America itself to fail.
There are questions about troop numbers, questions about diplomacy. There are questions about the Ukrainian military, its weapons, and its soldiers. There are questions about Germany and France. There are questions about America.
Yet another frozen conflict, yet another temporary holding pattern, yet another face-saving compromise will not end the pattern of Russian aggression.
Ukrainians are waiting for the counteroffensive. Europeans are waiting for the counteroffensive. Central Asians are waiting for the counteroffensive. Belarusians, Venezuelans, Iranians, and others are all waiting for the counteroffensive.
You are not safe. You are never safe. Not even if you live in a democracy; not even if you have political asylum; not even if you are sitting on a plane, thousands of feet above the ground.”
Putin is dangerous because he stirs up “fear.” Applebaum is wise and enlightened ‘coz she stirs up fear, “You are never safe!!!” etc. Do the spawn of Elites like Sikorsky and Applebaum serve or die in the endless wars? George Bush Sr. was shot down during WW II; Junior defended the skies of Texas against the North Vietnamese threat. His only danger would’ve been if he was as poor a pilot as John McCain.
KT Chong
Context: Why Denmark Cannot Simply Say “No” to the U.S.
Before any of this happens, it’s important to understand the strategic reality Denmark is operating under.
Denmark is a small country facing pressure from a superpower. It does not have the political, economic, or military weight to withstand sustained U.S. pressure — especially from a Trump administration that bullies allies, threatens military action, or imposes tariffs for leverage. Simply refusing U.S. demands outright is not a viable long-term strategy for Copenhagen.
At the same time, NATO itself would likely pressure Denmark to “manage” the situation rather than escalate it. NATO’s overriding instinct is self-preservation: avoid internal conflict, avoid confrontation with the U.S., and maintain alliance cohesion. Denmark could easily find itself isolated if it is seen as the obstacle to Trump’s demands regarding Greenland.
This is why Denmark’s best move is not resistance, but deflection, redirection, and surprise: shift the confrontation and decision away from itself and onto an unassailable principle—Greenlandic self-determination.
KT Chong
Step 1: Reframe the Issue as Democracy and Self-Determination (Denmark → Greenland)
• Denmark publicly reiterates a simple, unassailable principle: Greenland’s future can only be decided by Greenlanders themselves.
• This aligns Denmark with its own law, international law, UN decolonization norms, and Indigenous self-determination.
• Denmark does not frame this as denying Trump, but as: “We agree to let go of Greenland, but the final decision is not up to us.”
KT Chong
Step 2: Denmark Agrees to Hold a Referendum
• Denmark authorizes a binding referendum on Greenlandic sovereignty.
• Framing is neutral: “Greenlanders shall decide their own future.”
• Publicly, Denmark offers three ballot options:
1. Status quo
2. Independence
3. Joining the U.S.
• Behind the scenes, Denmark, Greenland, and Canada quietly prepare a fourth option.
• There is no legal basis to restrict the ballot to options favorable to the U.S.
KT Chong
Step 3: Greenland Unveils the Ballot — With More Than Three Options
• Greenland’s government designs the referendum with four options:
1. Remain within the Kingdom of Denmark (status quo)
2. Full independence
3. Join the United States
4. Join Canada (surprise!)
• Each option is legally defensible and democratically legitimate.
• Once this ballot is announced, the U.S. has already lost control of the outcome.
KT Chong
Step 4: Indigenous Reality Dominates the Vote
• ~88–90% of Greenland’s population is Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut.
• U.S. sovereignty—especially under Trump/Miller—represents an existential threat.
• Independence looks risky: a small, defenseless, militarily weak Greenland could become a target for coercion.
• Why vote to join Canada?
• Indigenous Greenlanders have longstanding cultural, familial, and economic ties with Inuit communities in Canada (Nunavut, Northwest Territories, northern Quebec/Labrador).
• Many travel regularly across the sea for trade, ceremonies, and family visits.
• Goods, art, and subsistence trade flow naturally between Greenlandic and Canadian Inuit.
• These ties make Canada the natural partner socially, culturally, and economically.
• Canadian Inuit society, language (Inuktitut and dialects), and governance of Indigenous affairs are familiar and compatible.
• Integration with Canada is practically and socially easier than joining the U.S., which is alien in culture and hostile in policy.
• Cross-border ties provide Canada with a quiet but effective channel to encourage pro-Canada votes.
• The U.S. will not invade Canada or a Canadian territory. Canada provides geographic proximity, Indigenous continuity, democratic legitimacy, and security.
KT Chong
Step 5: Referendum Result — Canada Wins
• Likely results:
1. Canada: plurality or majority
2. Independence: significant but secondary
3. Status quo: declining support
4. U.S.: minimal support
• Denmark can say: “We respected the will of the Greenlandic people.”
• Greenland can say: “This was our decision.”
• Canada can say: “We responded to an invitation.”
• Trump has no procedural foothold left.
KT Chong
Step 6: Immediate Diplomatic Lock-In (Canada–Denmark–Greenland)
• Within days (not weeks or months), Denmark and Canada announce a framework agreement.
• Key elements:
(1) Orderly transfer of sovereignty
(2) Protection of Greenlandic autonomy
(3) Guarantees of Indigenous rights
(4) Continuation of existing NATO arrangements (not that I am a fan of NATO)
• Canada emphasizes Arctic stewardship, Indigenous partnership, stability, and non-expansionist intentions.
• Timing is critical: rapid action prevents U.S. pressure campaigns from gaining traction.
• Behind the scenes, Denmark and Canada have already been quietly coordinating the transfer.
• After the transfer, Canada and Denmark announces a special arrangement: Denmark retains full or partial access to Greenland (strategic, research, military) without the financial burden of subsidizing Greenland’s government, while Canada assumes sovereignty and administrative responsibility.
KT Chong
Step 7: The U.S. Is Neutralized — Without Confrontation
• The U.S. cannot invade Canada
• The U.S. cannot Overturn a democratic referendum
• The U.S. cannot Sanction Denmark, Canada, and Greenland simultaneously
• NATO allies quietly support the process, not the outcome.
• Trump can rage, tweet, and threaten: “CANADA WILL REGRET IT!” “DENMARK CHEAT!” “GREENLAND IS UNGRATEFUL!” — but there is no lever left to pull.
• Trump is outplayed without ever being directly challenged.
Mark Level
I misstated where the Appfelbaum (the real origin of the name, Deutsche) was shared, it was all those declarative false assertions in the Atlantic, a perhaps even more irrationally-Imperialist rag than the NYT. They are both equally Zionist though.
I thank KTC for all the strategy; his suggestions are similar to the real plebiscites the Russians ran in Russian-dominated regions that will form the soon-launched Novorossiya. But such logic will not even factor in what Trump, drunken Hegseth and Stephen Miller do. They don’t believe in voting nor consent, they only believe in Power and Might, Violence. They’ll fuck it up in Greenland though and turn people against them relatively quickly, I’d bet.
If the Dimmies win the mid-terms and manage to impeach Trump I’d also bet that they keep Greenland as the Empire’s property. They are bipartisan in their land-money-power lust, after all.
someofparts
from idle browsing this morning –
https://substack.com/home/post/p-184688606
Latest post from Rob Urie brings the usual well-documented critique of both sides of the US Uniparty.
Stopped by Kos out of curiosity and it was worse than I expected. Kos was carrying on about the brave freedom fighters in Iran protesting their oppressive government. It was enough to make me wonder if he works for Mossad, but I think the truth is that he is just a useful idiot. How embarrassing for him. Sites like his will be cited decades from now in academic studies when historians try to figure out how this country went off the rails.
KT Chong
Conclusion: Why Canada, Denmark, and Greenland Would Want to Do This
• Canada strengthens Arctic sovereignty, blocks U.S. control of critical Arctic trade routes, and secures long-term economic and geopolitical interests.
• Denmark avoids a confrontation it cannot win, sheds a costly responsibility, and preserves its dignity and legitimacy.
• Greenland gains security, Indigenous continuity, and self-determination.
• The U.S. is denied control of Arctic shipping chokepoints and permanent leverage over Canada and Europe.
• All of this is achieved without firing a single bullet or breaking a law.
• Bonus: the world gets to watch Trump huff and puff impotently:
“CANADA IS SO UNGRATEFUL TO AMERICA!”
“DENMARK IS NOT BEING NICE! I WAS SO NICE TO THEM!”
“THE GREENLAND REFERENDUM IS RIGGED!”
mago
KTC presumes rational actors acting rationally. Heh. Yeah, good luck with that.
ML scores points per usual. His first post sparked thoughts on girly power girls at play with their giddy delusions.
Former Finland PM Sanna Marin promotes perpetual war against the Ruskies unless they abandon their Ukie gains including Crimea. Then there’s the other Euro Fight Club beeches Jalinda Ardern, Kaja Kallas, and Annalena Baerbock stinking up the Star Wars barroom with their feisty sweaty hormones.
They’ve got their male analogs, older but no wiser, like Merz, Macron and Starmer, while on the other side of the pond the swamp bitch crowd goes crazy.
Puppy killers, ass and boot lickers, crazy haters one and all. Toxic in body speech and mind.
This bodes ill for one and all, but you know what? Everyday I celebrate another day of living. (Sly Stone is another story).
Cheers amigas y amigos!
Eric Anderson
U.S. Zeitgeist report.
As some here know I live in one of the reddest of the red states.
Yesterday, I attended town hall with two independents running against republicans. One running for an open house seat, one running for an open senate seat. Both, Gen Xers. Both military vets. And, both squarely aligned against anything resembling a trump policy. The hall was well attended by both republicans and libs who all seemed to report that the two parties are both out of control and we need a change.
The two pols also spoke about the number of independents who are lining up against establishment candidates of both parties — suffice to say, there are a bunch of them.
My take, political change is in the air. The geriatric duopoly is on it’s final vericosed legs. People have entirely lost faith in either party having the answers. Pretty sure we’re seeing the end of the kick the bums out and try the other party approach. People want to kick the entire duopoly out.
someofparts
from the Rob Urie post I linked to earlier – “Those who I left behind are now called the ‘imperialist left’, left supporters of imperialist policies because they are explained in terms of humanitarian aid, e.g. the war in Ukraine.” That breakdown stood out for me because it was exactly what shocked me about the tirade Kos posted about Iran.
KT Chong – Your solution to Greenland’s dilemma is elegant. My problem is that I can’t imagine the leaders involved doing anything that smart. I would love to be wrong because it would be great to see things handled the way you laid it out.
E Anderson – I hope you are right. Last I heard, independents outnumber supporters of both legacy parties.
Martha T.
The referendum suggestion reminds me of an episode in European history – Hitler was making noises of annexing Austria, had already subverted a small but vocal part of the population and some of the press. Cornered, the Austrian Chancellor scheduled a referendum so that the people would be able to decide if they wanted to be annexed.
Hitler (probably fully aware that he could not count on a win in a free and fair referendum) occupied the country before the date of the referendum, but did not cancel it. Instead he mobilized all his supporters for a rapturous reception in Vienna, making it look like nearly everyone was on board.
According to my late grandmother, who lived in Innsbruck (Tyrol) at the time, when she went to participate in the referendum a uniformed German soldier was looking over her shoulder. Unnerved, she asked (naively) if it was possible to vote no, whereupon he whipped out a notebook and asked for her name and address in a threatening tone. She voted as directed. –
Apparently in a tiny Tyrolean village where they forgot to station watchers everybody voted for continfued independence, so who knows how a fair referendum would have ended.
My conclusion: against dictators and their goons, referenda won’t be effective. They will just game them or ignore them.
KT Chong
Thank you for the history lesson.
Counter: European troops are already in Greenland on the ground. Stay there until the referendum is over, which should deter Trump from sending in U.S. troop.
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There is no political solution to this. There can’t be. It is beyond politics at this point and it/’s counterproductive to invest any further energy in such a notion.
Mark Level
Thanks to Mago’s kind and relevant words, and yes, the “young spokesmodels for Western fascism” “Girl Boss” movement contains a lot of recruited empty-headed, history Know Knothing bellicose broads. It seems Fox-branded on the surface, but the Dimmies went all Fox too, Abigail Spanberger, CIA’ed out, likely participated in torture of innocents abroad is now installed as Governor of Virginia. It is the cradle of American Slavery, so fitting enough.
I think the worst is Kallas, Baerbock’s useful idiot days are over but she was likely the stupidest, with Baerbock Math, if you do a 360 degree turn that does NOT change anything it puts you back where you started. She may be too old to go back to her previous to politics gig, Trapeze Lady (not kidding), so wonder how much she’ll earn. She sucked up a lotta Wingnut Welfare so she’ll be okay for awhile.
Nice to see someofparts back with good shares again also. I agree with Eric Anderson, more people know the Duopoly is rigged and broken, perhaps the giant Glacier of Austerity and Empire will start melting like those Alaska and Greenland ones, under Climate change . . . it will be slow, necessarily, TPTB of the Far Right Daddies and the Center Right Mommies will resist and gaslight as thoroughly as they can. The Ugly Truth can be seen by anyone with eyes open and not in TPTB, not the DC types, obviously.
I think Drumpf is gonna fuck something up bigly, plus this year it’s clear, the SMO will end in Victory for Russia, which will dishearten the US-Euro Imperialist War Pigs greatly.
The ICE Reich will anger more ordinary folks, hell, the likes of Bloody Bill Kristol (!) & Tim Poole have come out against it. We’ve got one commenter here whose fine if they kill Lesbians and people who spend too much time on Instagram (maybe both are required) but there are always Outliers. And when does Donnie crash the economy? Can’t be too far in the future.
I’m not ready to sing Leonard Cohen’s “Democracy is Coming to the USA” currently, but perhaps as the Enshitification of the US political trickery game and the economy peak, there will be a counter-current, or even a growing counterculture not obsessed with Guns, hatred of Trans- and non-white people, Fetus fanaticism, etc., an Actual Left?
One can dream, as long as one’s learned what Barry Obama taught, Hope must be abandoned as useless.
KT Chong
Anyway, I have gamed out the possible outcomes and scenarios with the current trajectory. I am not going to get into each possible outcome and scenario, but…
Every Outcome and Scenario to Annex Greenland Will Benefit China and Russia to Various Degrees, and Harm Canada, Europe, and Even the U.S.:
1. Trump’s Likely Motivation vs Reality
• Trump sees Greenland as a way to control Arctic trade routes, resources, and leverage over Canada and Europe.
• Resource extraction is largely illusory: Greenland still depends on Danish subsidies; infrastructure costs and timelines are enormous; building and maintaining facilities in the harsh Arctic environment is extremely difficult and expensive; and mining operations are economically marginal, technically challenging, and unlikely to be viable year-round.
• Military value is marginal: the U.S. already has access to Greenland through treaties with Denmark and NATO. Annexation creates a resource- and force-draining liability rather than a strategic asset.
• His main gain is short-term leverage and ego — coercion of allies, symbolic conquest, and domestic optics.
2. Strategic Downside for the U.S.
• Annexation would sour relations with Canada and Europe; no one likes being kept on a leash.
• Greenland becomes a military sink: the U.S. must defend it in a major-power war with China and/or Russia, either under-manned (inviting Chinese/Russian probing/flanking) or over-manned (diverting resources from main theaters.)
• Allies will be far less willing to contribute to Greenland’s defense because relations have soured and it is now “America’s problem.”
• The U.S. would take on enormous costs — fiscal, military, and diplomatic — for minimal economic and strategic return.
• Even under the current trajectory, U.S. forced annexation of Greenland will fracture NATO credibility and weaken Western alliances.
3. Why Russia Benefits
• NATO is Russia’s primary strategic threat.
• U.S. annexation or coercion of Greenland would fracture NATO, creating internal conflict and weakening NATO’s cohesion.
• This is a big win for Russia: Best-case scenario for them, NATO implodes — and given the Greenland situation, that outcome is increasingly likely.
4. Why China Benefits
• China gains from a divided West, especially deteriorating U.S.–Europe relations.
• Europe, reeling from U.S. coercion, will pursue strategic diversification, seeking closer tie and trading more with China. (Russia is currently not a viable option for Europe due to the Ukraine War.)
• Free Arctic trade routes to Europe and Canada are beneficial but not existential — China gains efficiency and options without needing Greenland itself.
• Even if the U.S. controls Greenland and restricts Arctic access, it is mostly a continuation of the status quo for China; China’s relative position improves versus the U.S., because Western cohesion is weakened.
• For trade and transit, China can simply use the Russian side of the Northern Sea Routes instead of relying on Greenland, maintaining access to Canada and Europe without confronting the U.S. That is not an option for Canada and Europe as relations with Russia are strained.
5. Canada and Europe Are the Biggest Potential Losers
• Loss of agency over their own trade routes and strategic autonomy.
• Permanent U.S. leverage over Canada and Europe under Greenland annexation.
• Forced to rely on U.S. permission for Arctic access and security, reducing independence in policy and trade.
6. The Biggest Loser: Greenland’s Indigenous Population
• If Greenland falls under U.S. control, Trump and Stephen Miller are likely to pursue the same policies they have in the U.S.: Cutting subsidies, welfare, and public services; Blaming Brown people for economic burdens.
• As Greenland is structurally dependent on support (Denmark’s subsidies currently cover government and social costs), the economic shortfall would hit Indigenous Greenlanders hardest.
• Worst-case that is quite likely to happen under the current Trump-Miller regime: The administration could attempt forced relocations or “incentives” to leave, potentially pushing Indigenous Greenlanders into Canada — creating additional costs and problems for Canada.
• In short: Greenland’s Indigenous Inuit/Kalaallisut would bear the lion’s share of the costs and risk.
Key takeaways:
• All trajectories favor China and Russia (to varying degrees).
• U.S. gains (if they are even considered as gains) are mostly optic, temporary, or counterproductive.
• Canada and Europe lose if the U.S. seizes Greenland
• The biggest loser: Greenland’s Indigenous population.
KT Chong
mago: “KTC presumes rational actors acting rationally. Heh. Yeah, good luck with that.”
I understand the skepticism — many people think Europe’s actions regarding Russia-Ukraine have been irrational and self-sabotaging. I actually have a framework that explains Europe’s behavior. In that framework, Europe is being perfectly rational.
It’s really about resources and access to resources. Europe is resource-deprived, and its external options are extremely limited. Regime change in Russia — removing Putin to allow exploitation of Russian resources — is simply the best available option: colonization and occupation aren’t viable anymore, East Asia has grown too powerful, Latin America is largely closed off by the U.S., and the Middle East is chaotic and unstable.
When Europe finally accepts that they are unable to change the regime in Russia, I fully expect it to pivot back to Africa with guns and troops — because resource needs haven’t gone away.
Maybe I’ll share the details of this framework in full one day.
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Here is an article from Naked Capitalism which I think may be worthy of attention and consideration. It is from Grist . . . .
” Iran’s regime has survived war, sanctions, and uprising. Environmental crises may bring it down.
Decades of water depletion, dam building, and repression of scientists and environmentalists have driven Iran toward ecological crises that are fueling the protests rocking the country. ”
https://grist.org/international/irans-regime-has-survived-war-sanctions-and-uprising-environmental-crises-may-bring-it-down/
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@Martha T.
I suspect that the Miller ( trumpenvance) Regime does not yet have any goons in place in Greenland. Which means that if the relevant authorities in Denmark, Greenland and maybe Canada can move swiftly and silently, they could get such a referendum in place and conducted before President Miller has a chance to goon it or game it.
President Miller would then be left to deal with the results after the fact, if this all played out as K T Chong suggests.
( Denmark would have to keep it a secret from the rest of EUrope to avoid and prevent EUropean sabotage, gooning and gaming on behalf of President Miller).
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Here is a funny little video from CringeTikToks.
” Looking a lot like January 2026! ”
https://www.reddit.com/r/CringeTikToks/comments/1qgaun4/looking_a_lot_like_january_2026/
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Here is a video of a citizen asking each of many ICE/FedPolice operatives in turn to tell him under what specific authority of what specific law they are blocking off a public street.
” State: MN Date: 1/17/26 MN Combat Veteran asks federal Agents about Minnesota’s public street laws. ”
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qg7a6u/state_mn_date_11726_mn_combat_veteran_asks/
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Saw a neat saying on reddit. Since it takes less space to quote it than show the link, here it is: I’d rather be a snowflake than an ICEhole.
mago
@KT Chong. I see your point as outlined, but I think inter generational phobias and pathologies play a large in European attitudes towards Russia. It goes back centuries. And, unless there’s a major shift, any colonial moves towards Africa are doomed. The natives are armed and dangerous. Anyway, would be curious to see your framework. Also, yes, any take over of Greenland means death and suffering for the indigenous inhabitants.
The link to Rob Urie is much appreciated. I always appreciate his insights. Thanks someofparts.
Thanks also to Eric Anderson and Mark Level for their insights.
Thanks everyone. I enjoy reading your comments.
Curt Kastens
Iran’s Water Problems—-Southwest Asia’s Water problems—The World’s Water Problems
At some point in the past couple of years I seem to rcall making a comment about what would be the proximate cause of the collapse of industrial civilization. The causes that I considered were climate change, peak oil, debt related financial collapse,and nuclaer war. I chose climae change. But I think that I should have considered a couple of other options. One option that should have been on the list is a pandemic. But even though I should have included that as an option, I do not think that will be the winner. The other option that I should have considered is lack of fresh water.
In the past I had been thinking about lack of fresh water as a symptom of climate change.
But using up fresh water at an unsustainable rate was happening long before climate change was on the radar of the world. Fresh water shortages are related to but seperate from climate change. Climate change makes it worse but it does not cause the problem.
It is with this new understanding that I put my money, figuratively speaking only, on the lack of fresh water that will cause the the collapse of industrial civilization.
I can not see how any government can continue to function in Iran more than a year or two further down the road. It looks to my like there is going to be complete chaos in not only Iran but in the entire region in the very near future due to lack of water. We should expect a refugee crisis that dwarfs any other movement of refugees in human history. Technology can not save the day.
This regional crisis might not be suffecient to cause to collapse of industrial civilizaiton in the rest of the world. But the ground water that the rest of the world depends upon for agriculture is at low levels in many places.
Before people starve they will steal. After they steal they will turn to canniblism.
It is way way way way to late to prevent these dominoes from falling. Humanity is not even close to an energy transition. And even if we had achieved this energy transition 20 years ago it would have been to late.
Curt Kastens
KT Chong,
I too would be very interested in reading your view about Europe acting in its own self interest in reguard to world events.
KT Chong
Curt Kastens: “… The World’s Water Problems”
I know someone who might have already solved the theoretical and technical problems of creating near-unlimited freshwater, but he intends to take his ideas and solutions out of the country — because he feels, more and more so, that it would be extremely immoral to execute and implement in America.
Also, there is the energy problem that cannot be solved with any carbon-based fuels. He expertise is not in energy, and there is only one country that is currently and aggressively working independently on solving the energy problem, (which also happens to be his energy problem,) and it is not America.
Anyway.
Let just say, don’t worry about freshwater. It won’t be an existential problem… maybe it will be for America, but not for a lot of other countries. America will just have to work out some kind of deal with the country that will have the energy AND technology to create more freshwater.
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Header: Little Back Yard report.
After 2 winters of only wet spring-type snow, this winter is being colder and we have had a 4 inch dry snowfall, able to be shoveled and moved around.
Last night I shoveled out access paths around my yard perimeter and then I used my Ergo Sleigh brand Yooper Scooper to push all the snow on my little front yard up onto the front part of my side garden. Even with winter flash-thaws, some of the snow will remain there until spring. When real Spring comes, that snow will still be available and in place to feed meltwater into the soil as the soil thaws enough to allow meltwater to soak in and down. That will let that part of the bed build up a start-of-garden-season charge of soil-water to begin the season with.
And also, my most recent gas and electric bill combined comes to $73 and some cents. Fifty dollars and something for the gas, twenty three dollars and something for the electric. And I weigh 260 lbs.
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Here is a little item from the SipsTea subreddit, showing how “mystical” people can sometimes give valuable “material” advice.
” Important lesson ”
https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/1qixzlz/important_lesson/
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Here is a little video showing a layer of bright blue-green gas slowly spreading around at near-ground level somewhere in Minnesota. Probably somewhere in Minneapolis.
As scary as green gas ( or green fog or green whatever-it-is) may be, one hopes several different people are/ were able to capture little samples of it, either in plastic bags or other things.
” Heavy green gas permeates a Minnesota neighborhood, crawling along the ground as a suspected carcinogenic agent. ”
https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/1qja5j9/heavy_green_gas_permeates_a_minnesota/
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And from the just-above entry’s comment thread, here is a detailed little item about what that green matter cloud might be-could be.
” Gas can used against peaceful protestors the other night ”
https://www.reddit.com/user/Rhift/comments/1qgypdi/gas_can_used_against_peaceful_protestors_the/
The various comments in this posting’s thread offer different bits of detailed information about the material possibly involved plus evidence-based reasons as to why various commenters think that is what it may be.
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Here is a bit of music from the BeAmazed subreddit. It is titled ” Talent doesn’t need permission to surprise you”. The picture itself is captioned ” He played a Vivaldi masterpiece on an accordion that usually takes a full orchestra.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/1qk9rxu/talent_doesnt_need_permission_to_surprise_you/
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Here is a powerful image. ” This magnetic mat I got from Harbor Freight”.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1qksv9f/this_magnetic_mat_i_got_from_harbor_freight/
If I can find any linkable entries to ” magnetism in agriculture and horticulture” I will bring them here to inspire possible uses of the ” Harbor Freight magnetic mat”.