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Trump’s Religious Liberties Commission Implodes Over Zionism

POTUS Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission is tearing itself apart in a fight about zionism.

The leading dissident, Carrie Prejean Boller, the 2009 Miss California USA is a right-wing Catholic who picked a fight with zionists at a meeting of the Commission.

Here’s how NBC describes the dust-up:

A member of the federal Religious Liberty Commission has been ousted after a hearing this week that featured tense exchanges on the definition of antisemitism. The ousted member, Carrie Prejean Boller, had defended prominent commentator Candace Owens, who routinely shares antisemitic conspiracy theories.

Prejean Boller, a model turned conservative activist, denied that Owens had ever said anything antisemitic, quoted a Bible verse that attributed the death of Jesus to Jews and pushed back on the idea that some people mask antisemitism in their criticism of Israel.

“No member of the commission has the right to hijack a hearing for their own personal and political agenda on any issue,” said Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, chair of the commission, in a statement Wednesday. “This is clearly, without question, what happened Monday in our hearing on antisemitism in America. This was my decision.”

Boller fired back on X.com that Patrick could not fire her, only Trump could.

Patrick’s tweet got over 4.4 million views and Boller’s reply 2.3 million views. This is the mainstream of 21st Century American political discourse.

Boller spoke to Yair Rosenberg at The Atlantic:

“It is not a biblical mandate that I have to worship Israel,” Carrie Prejean Boller told me today. The former Miss California USA turned social-media influencer was dismissed from President Trump’s Religious Liberty Commission yesterday after drawing charges of anti-Semitism. But, she wanted to make clear, she regrets nothing—and has no intention of disappearing without a fight.

On Tuesday, the Religious Liberty Commission held its fifth hearing, in Washington, D.C., to discuss anti-Jewish prejudice. Meetings of blue-ribbon panels are typically sleepy, stage-managed affairs designed to serve the purposes of whatever administration put them together. But Boller had other ideas. She repeatedly interrogated the participants about their opinions on anti-Zionism, which she distinguished from anti-Semitism, and complained that other panelists had called Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, the wildly popular podcasters, anti-Semitic.

Video of Boller’s interjections went viral, sparking furious recriminations on the right. “I’m with her,” declared former Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene. Boller took to social media in her own defense and began resharing others’ support for her conduct, including Owens’s claim that the two women were being assailed for refusing to “support the mass slaughter and rape of innocent children for occult Baal worshipers.” Boller’s performance raised her profile—her previously marginal X account increased its following 20-fold. “Be a good Goyim and give me a follow,” she posted Tuesday afternoon, inaccurately using the plural form of the colloquial Hebrew word for “non-Jew.” Yesterday, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, the chair of the Religious Liberty Commission, announced that Boller had been removed, saying in a statement that “no member of the Commission has the right to hijack a hearing for their own personal and political agenda on any issue.”

Trump influencer Laura Loomer chimed in (600K views) to claim that the White House ordered Boller’s removal from the Commission:

For those not following this administration closely, here’s some background on Loomer and her role in Trump 2.0 (“chief loyalty enforcer”) from PBS last summer:

Laura Loomer has successfully lobbied to remove aides from several key government roles, including the National Security Council. Despite her close alliance with the president, she’s drawn some foes within the Republican Party, including Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Laura Loomer: “I’m not working for President Trump. I’m not getting paid by President Trump. I’m not in the Trump White House. I wasn’t even on the Trump campaign. And yet I feel like every single day it’s a full-time job just to make sure the president is protected and that he’s receiving the information that he needs to receive.”

The open war over zionism on the right side of the political spectrum is a dramatic contrast to the more subdued conflict between Democratic party voters (who overwhelmingly oppose Israel) and their elected officials (who overwhelmingly support Israel).

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  1. Feral Finster

    “Israel First!
    Saudi Arabia second,
    america can have any crumbs left over, I guess.”

    Whatever Netanyahu has over Trump (and the unredacted Epstein files may not be the whole of it) but be a humdinger.

  2. Feral Finster

    “The open war over zionism on the right side of the political spectrum is a dramatic contrast to the more subdued conflict between Democratic party voters (who overwhelmingly oppose Israel) and their elected officials (who overwhelmingly support Israel).”

    Was it not taught of old that Team D has contempt for its voters, while Team R fears its voters?

    For that matter, it is forgotten that the RNC tried to rig the 2016 nomination to keep Trump out, even cancelling primaries in states Trump was likely to win. That effort was unsuccessful, in part because the RNC was unable to unite behind a single non-Trump candidate (would it be Rubio? Cruz? Kasich? Jeb!?) and in part because Team R could not could on the MSM to carry their water.

  3. different clue

    Antizionism and antisemitism are two different things. ” quoted a Bible verse that attributed the death of Jesus to Jews ” is not antizionism. It is antisemitism.

    Attributing antizionism to antisemitism is usually a cynical misattribution, which the IsraelGov routinely accuses antizionists of in order to blur the distinction and weaponise the confusion. If the Left decides to endorse ” quoted a Bible verse that attributed the death of Jesus to Jews ” in hopes of weaponising that against zionism and Israel, then the Left would be doing the very same thing in the other direction.

    I hope the Left chooses not to do that. But the Left is a big boy and is all grown up, and the Left will do what it chooses to do.

    Meanwhile, the existence of this Religious Persecution Privilege Commission misbranded as a Religious Freedom Commission is a part of the evil conspiracy to make America Gilead. I hope this controversy can destroy the RPPC from existence and wipe it off the face of the earth.

  4. Purple Library Guy

    Interesting contrast in the argument–both on the right and in the centre, you have zionists on one side supporting genocide and calling their opponents antisemitic.

    But on the centre/left part of the argument, the other side is anti-zionists who are almost all not antisemites (and many of whom are jews), saying anti-zionism isn’t antisemitism. Whereas on the right, you have actual antisemites, saying anti-zionism isn’t antisemitism. Which is a bit less convincing. It’s kind of annoying the way it makes our argument look bad.

  5. different clue

    @Purple Library Guy,

    All the non-Right can do is to keep the distinction bright and clear in their own mind and their own practice. . . . trying to keep the waters clean faster than the Right can muddy the waters.

    I remember months ago reading an webicle ( that’s an article on the web) about how Candace Owens had just been freshly fired from her at-the-time perch for being anti-zionist and anti-Israel. She was striking the pose of Brave Martyr. I read a little deeper into links from the webicle and found where Candace Owens had been saying that Jews here and there in America were KNOWN to be kidnapping Christians to slaughter them ritually for their secret religious rituals. I know I saw it. I don’t know if I have the patience to try rooting around for it to bring it here.

    Black content creators discuss Candace Owens from time to time. In general, they refer to her as ” Coondace Owens” and sometimes as “Klandace Owens”. They will not forgive her for what she routinely says about Foundational Black Americans. They consider her friendship ( “loveship”?) with Charlie Kirk as par for the course and a perfect expression of everything she ever stood for. They are taking shadenfreudelight in how she is now trying to eat the Grieving Widow Kirk’s face off.

  6. Chris West

    Christian Zionism is mainly a post-6 Day War Evangelical Protestant phenomenon. It’s no surprise that with American Protestantism’s image in free-fall there’s starting to be more pushback on some of the loopier doctrinal backwaters.

  7. Mark Level

    What Finster said, and yes, Team D spits all over and hippie-punches their base, no genuine empathy or love of humanity is allowed, the political leadership are all Hall Monitors who will do what they are told and punch down. (Okay, as the historical worm turns, a few elected Dems are stepping quietly and gingerly away from their Zionist handlers. Will this create a trend? I doubt it but have mild hope that it might.)

    Some months back, the horrible Zionist Lib (& former Obama speechwriter) Sara Hurwitz got into hot water chiding younger Jews for NOT supporting the genocide, she said that younger Jews were too squeamish & they were “very difficult to talk to” because they hear what you (she) is saying passes through “a wall of dead (Palestinian) children.” A little too much truth-telling there, I guess. She got some push-back even from liberal Zionists as half-admitting that hundreds of thousands are dead– it is certainly not the 80,000 or whatever the Gaza Health Ministry claims, which the Zionist Regime admitted was “true” ‘coz they know the actual death toll is hundreds of times what is claimed, those dead under the rubble or in mass graves are many times more. . . . Shrieking “Israel has a right to DEFEND (sic) itself” no longer cuts it with anyone who is in touch with their humanity, Jewish youth included. Her solution– Don’t let Jewish youth have cell phones or social media until they turn 16!! You can cover up the War Crimes, they won’t resent (I believe she wrongly believes) being lied to, the typical “good German” defense, “We didn’t know, how could we?”

    See here– https://www.facebook.com/reel/3813008065663015

    I’m not afraid to admit my past mistakes when I was younger and more inexperienced. I voted D. for over 4 decades. It was only when Obama came in, bailed out the Bankster crooks and Bush’s torture “folks”, folks who “tortured some folks”, jailed the whistle-blowers and drone-bombed a 16 year old American citizen, caused the greatest loss in black household wealth seen in ALL of American history that I wised up.

    Now this did not make me vote R, obviously, their outward fascism and racism is off the charts. They are, however, far less hypocritical than the Dems, who performatively pretend to care about “minorities, women, gays, the disabled” etc. etc. ad infinitum, but only Fund Raise off their phony claims, deliberately lose nearly every battle with the R’s, dangle good ideas (Defund the Police, “the Green New Deal” etc. popular with the deluded base) before their idiotically hopeful minions, and then always lose, heartbreakingly, by just one yard on the field, just one procedural vote. Rinse and repeat, fundraise some more, most of the marks will come back and throw good money after bad (like the Ukraine War.)

    Now I am old enough to remember when there were actual Leftists, with spines, in the D. Party, but that is very far in the past. No more unionists (or few, sold out bureaucrats like Sean Fein, who at least had the smarts to endorse Trump when Kamala shit all over his union at a meeting with him, told them straight-out, we’ll win without you, 2 lies for the price of one.)

    I’ll share my dad’s anti-Semitism here, he was a typical gentile who came out of poverty, deeply suspicious of his economic betters and the connected class. Dad grew up in a poor, not highly educated German-Irish family who owned a small farm in South Dakota, had no electricity or indoor plumbing until he was in his late teens, went to Sioux Falls with aunts and uncle for High School rather than his local 2-room schoolhouse, first in his family to get a College education, grindingly poor and in ROTC even when I was a baby.

    Now, as a lifelong Republican, I recall my dad got angry once when I was younger, when he referred to “pencil-necked, efete Jews”, by which he meant progressive Jews in the ACLU. This came up about 2004, when my dad admitted to me he’d rejected the primitive superstitious Catholicism of his youth, wised up and realized there is not likely a God. I appreciated this and asked him if he, like me, supported the SCotUS case that was impending to take the words “under God” out of the (fascistic) Pledge of Allegiance, this was when I mistakenly called forth his anti-Semitic shadow.

    On the other hand: his German last name was in fact very common among German Jews, as it was based on a livelihood that Jews in Germany were not just allowed to practice, but very successful in, since they were excluded from the military and other sectors. So when he started to have professional success in Chicago in business, he was always flattered when Jews mistook him for one of the tribe, flattered to be considered a “good earner” type. Much later, as a Republican, he became very Semitophilic (if we take the false claim that Ashkenazi Jews are actually Semites, which I largely don’t), one time we were discussing the Middle East and he boomed that “we have to support the Jews”, they are very good at killing the untermenschen brown people, he respected their Dominance and Violence unconditionally.

    Now let’s zoom forward to modern times. Trump & that resentful, racist crew coasted into power on promises of ending “Woke” DEI initiatives, sops to the unfortunate due to discrimination, ‘coz we all need to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps, etc. BUT the big flaw in their practice is prioritizing Zionist carnage, “our unsinkable Aircraft Carrier in the Middle East” into a Protected Class, in fact the Exclusive Protective Class, well I guess Billionaires should be included as well, but they operate more secretly and “need” the support somewhat less, I guess?

    Like Ben Shapiro, they went from “Facts don’t care about your Feelings,” to “It hurts the Elite Jewish young adults at Harvard, Yale etc” that some of their classmates object to Zionism. They feel bad, “threatened” to hear a chant like “From the River to the Sea” ‘coz that’s only for the Likudniks and the Genocidal project, not for the indigenous population.

    Now the Left has had an increasingly diminishing electoral Institutional political role over the 6+ decades I’ve been alive. Trump screams incoherently about “the Radical Left Democrats” when if fact the Party hates the Bernie crowd as thoroughly or moreso than the full-on Right, they have to pretend to tolerate them in “the big tent” but for decades as Chuck Schumer promised, “we don’t need progressives”, for every 1 we throw under the bus we will gain 3 or 4 “moderate Republicans.”

    Good for Ms. Prejean Bowler for having a spine, and good on her for not wanting to be a 2nd Class citizen (or as the Incel contingent of the R’s would say, a “Beta”) within the USA. Good for Candace Owens, I used to think her Christianity was entirely a fraud, but I think like many mothers she sees the slaughter of the children (“innocents” in the Bible) in Gaza and the West Bank and says no. I have seen many people that I previously despised on the Right, Judge Andrew Napolitano and some others come around.

    Another example from the “Liberal Zionist” Camp. When Max Blumenthal published his book “Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel”, the Lib Zio Eric Alterman trashed Blumenthal, calling it “the I Hate Israel book” and smearing Max every which way from Shalom Shabbat. Blumenthal ran into Alterman in an airport some years later, and provocatively thanked him for the attacks, said he sold a lot more books as a result. (Alterman was frightened and sweating that Max even approached him, accd. to Blumenthal.) Last year Alterman published a book which largely goes where Goliath went, 20 years ago. Blumenthal is nothing if not hardworking and conscientious, he’d spent over 4 years living and reporting from Israel when smeared by Alterman.

    I have no truck with White Supremacy, but let’s face it, Zionist Supremacy is one of the most vicious forms of White Supremacy that has ever existed. 90% of the World’s population that knows the truth of that does not support the Zionist Entity. Right-wingers are rarely my allies, but as stated some (Napolitano) have come around. Stuff like the Epstein quip quoting a Rabbi saying that the Goyim exist only to serve us does not build support for Zionism, quite the reverse.

    People and entities like Ben Shapiro (Americans should work until they’re 75, nobody has the right to retire), Rabbi Schmuley (he lacks a congregation but sells dildos with his daughter), the ignorant, braying Yob Michael Rapaport, Bibi, the rapist “soldier” Ehud Barack are walking advertisements for “anti-Semitism”, as is the likes of the ADL and Jonathan Greenblatt, bullying pro-Palestine students but saying it’s okay when Elon Musk throws a “Roman Salute” at a Trump Rally.

    Thus we have the likes of Blumenthal, Norman Finkelstein, Katie Halper, Russell Dobular and Keaton Weiss, Dave Smith, Felix Biederman, and many, many others standing up to say you can be a Jew without being a Supremacist or lording it over the Goyim “Cattle.” Refreshing. And the arc of history has started to bend, not based on unreliable teleology, but based on the tendency of most humans who have any empathy finding Genocide and Braying Ethno-Nationalism to be repugnant.

    Oh, and Laura Loomer, thanks for including her!! Just a reprehensible failed Troll. She got kicked out of college pretending to be pro-Assad (the Troll backfired), has been consistently fascist, racist, eliminationist ever since. She has some fixation about not being pretty, and has had facial surgery 4 times or more. She may not “work directly” for the Donald (I’ll take her word for that) but like the bald homunculus Miller, she is a Hate-Whisperer for him.

    I welcome allies from the left, and on this issue I will welcome sincere allies from the Right (with whom I may disagree on many other issues) as well. Genocide is a red line that cannot be crossed to me, the more that sentiment grows the better this world will eventually be.

  8. capelin

    DC wrote: “where Candace Owens had been saying that Jews here and there in America were KNOWN to be kidnapping Christians to slaughter them ritually for their secret religious rituals.”

    Well, Epstein, Maxwell, clients were proudly jewish zionists. You think they were harvesting fellow jews, or the various flavours of the underclass?

    It’s right there in front of your face, yet seamingly ungraspable.

    “They consider her friendship ( “loveship”?) with Charlie Kirk as par for the course and a perfect expression of everything she ever stood for.”

    Candace Owens, one may note, is always attacked or slurrred, her message thus to be ignored, on character or “to crazy to even consider” grounds.

    What she says is very much worth considering, IMHO.

    “They are taking shadenfreudelight in how she is now trying to eat the Grieving Widow Kirk’s face off”

    The “the death of my husband was heavy but what really upsets me is when people don’t like israel”…

    that grieving widow?

    “I know I saw it. I don’t know if I have the patience to try rooting around for it to bring it here.”

    I think Boller is great! Calling obvious genocide, digging in. Blonde hair. Know nothing else about her.

    The right wing needs a civil war; loonies vs based. A religious liberties commission is as good a place as any to draw a line in the bullshit.

  9. Senator-Elect

    I wish we paid less attention to these juvenile clowns on the right. They should all be required to read five books before they can say or write anything again.

    By the way, does anyone know if the views, likes and retweets numbers on Twitter are remotely accurate? I haven’t been on that racism-spreading app in a long time, but the numbers back then already seemed wildly inflated.

    It’s like hits on Google search: totally invented by an algorithm, with no basis in reality.

  10. Bob

    Hah.

    Don’t know if I’ll get myself banned here but, as far as I’m concerned, the term “antisemitism” has no useful meaning except as a label to smear people who oppose the Gaza holocaust and theft of Palestine in general.

    I’m saying this aa a former self-hating Jew who’s realised that absent any religious feelings, my former identity has no substance except it being an affiliation with a blood thirsty cult.

    I’m aware there are a handful of well known Jewish people who oppose Israel but it’s a miniscule sample of a group that overwhelmingly is Zionist.

    In the UK, there isn’t a single Jewish institution that has sought to express any objections to the genocide or distance themselves from the state of Israel that claims to be working in their name.

    Jewish people send their kids to schools that all actively support Israel, the religious institutions include support for Israel, the CST, an Israeli supported private security force, patrols neighborhoods with the support of the Jewish community who report every sighting of a keffiyeh or palestinian flag as an amtisemitic incident.

    I can’t interact with any Jewish person in my private life. My (former) family and friends are all genocidal. A lot of them have children in the IOF. I wonder what they’re up to. I know that Avi Shlaim, Miko Peled, Gilad Atzmon and Gabor Mate exist but I’ve never met any of them.

    I’m pretty sure a Jewish person who opposes the genocide makes it very clear.

    So when a person asks themselves if someone who’s anti-Israel is really just using it as a veil for antisemitism they are doing Mossad PR at this point in history. Even if it’s true in some cases, it’s moot. It’s an offence to hundreds of thousands of murdered Palestinians.

    The horror, the horror…

  11. DMC

    A point that needs to be made that utterly demolishs the “anti-zionism = anti-semitism” argument is the fact that somewhat less than 15% of zionists are any sort of Jews at all. Consider that, in the US alone, there are at least 50 million people who describe themselves as “Christian Zionists”. Also note that Jew is an essentialist category, while Zionist is an existential category. That is, tbe former is inherent, while the latter is based on whethet or not one “does Zionism”.

  12. different clue

    One might say that “Jew” is an Identyan category whereas “Zionist” is a political philosophy category. ( I spelled it ” Identyan” because it is easier to spell “Identityan” than ” Identitarian”. Maybe my spelling will catch on. )

    By the way, talking religion and religious identy, quite a few years ago at Sic Semper Tyrannis a semi-parallel discussion was taking place. A commenter said something like:’ ” Everything I know about Islam I learned on 9/11″. Another commenter replied: ” Everything I know about Judaism I learned at Deir Yassine” I decided to shut that shit down by writing: ” Everything I know about Buddhism I learned at Cox’s Bazaar”. And what do you know . . .. that shit shut right down. It isn’t always that easy.

  13. different clue

    . . . well, with enough practice it is easier to spell identyan. Identyan, not identityan.
    Sorry about that.

  14. zebra

    Fight ! Fight ! Fight ! Fight !

  15. RodertRudis

    As of 2020, these are the world’s top 18 religions:

    religious tradition population
    1. Christianity 2,521,460,000
    2. Islam 1,899,103,000
    3. Hinduism 1,090,592,000
    4. agnosticism 744,166,000
    5. Buddhism 530,612,000
    6. Chinese folk religions 457,672,000
    7. ethnic or tribal religions (mostly in Africa) 288,022,000
    8. atheist 147,009,000
    9. New Religionists (new religious movements in Asia) 67,463,000
    10. Sikhism 29,254,000
    11. Spiritism and spiritualism 14,805,000
    12. Judaism 14,800,000
    13. Bahāʾī 9,150,000
    14. Daoism 8,767,000
    15. Confucianism 8,755,000
    16. Jainism 6,344,000
    17. Shintō 2,773,000
    18. Zoroastrianism 205,000
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/List-of-religious-populations
    Obviously, some religions have more influence than others.

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