Russia War Situation & A Possible EU/Russia War

of course the situation today was mostly avoidable. as i predicted, the military advantage window is getting ever more shorter by the day under the technology that started in earnest in the 1890’s.

look how fast tanks and planes on both sides were developed during WWI.

Putin should have known this by the beginning of the third year. the third year ukraine was doomed. that was the time to unleash massive force.

instead Putin dithered, looking bewildered, blubbering on about international law after one red line after another, was obliterated. asking why the west is so irrational, hoping for some sign russia will become part of the club.

lenin knew better.
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The West’s relationship with Russia has been complex and fluctuating, with periods of both cooperation and tension. While there have been efforts to engage Russia, significant historical events and differing political ideologies have often led to conflict and mistrust.
UK Parliament University of Oxford

The relationship between Russia and the West has been marked by significant fluctuations, characterized by both cooperation and conflict. While there have been attempts to engage Russia, historical events and differing political ideologies have often led to mistrust.

Collapse of the USSR (1991): This event was expected to be a turning point, potentially leading to improved relations. However, the anticipated rapprochement did not materialize, and tensions resurfaced.

NATO Expansion: The expansion of NATO has been a contentious issue. While some Russian leaders, like Boris Yeltsin, initially accepted NATO’s enlargement, subsequent leaders, including Vladimir Putin, have expressed strong opposition, viewing it as a threat.

Conflicts in Ukraine: The West’s support for Ukraine during conflicts has further strained relations. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022 marked a significant escalation, leading to widespread condemnation from Western nations.

Negative Sentiment: Public opinion in Russia has shown a growing resentment towards the West, with a significant majority expressing negative views of the United States and the European Union. For instance, in early 2015, 81% of Russians viewed the U.S. negatively.

Influence of Propaganda: Anti-Western propaganda has intensified, particularly following the crisis in Ukraine, contributing to a broader sense of animosity.

While there have been moments of potential cooperation, the West’s relationship with Russia has often been fraught with challenges. Historical grievances, ideological differences, and recent conflicts have shaped a complex dynamic that continues to evolve.
UK Parliament ecfr.eu

The West has attempted to invade Russia multiple times throughout history, with notable invasions by Napoleon and Hitler both resulting in significant failures due to harsh winter conditions and effective Russian resistance. These historical attempts have contributed to ongoing tensions between Russia and Western nations.
The Archive History is Now Magazine

The West has made several notable attempts to invade and conquer Russia throughout history. These invasions have often ended in failure, primarily due to the harsh winter conditions and strong resistance from the Russian people.
Major Invasions
Year Invader Outcome
1812 Napoleon Bonaparte Failed; harsh winter and guerrilla tactics led to massive losses.
1941 Nazi Germany Failed; Operation Barbarossa faced severe logistical issues and winter conditions.

Harsh Winter Conditions: The Russian winter is notorious for its severity, which has historically thwarted invading armies. Both Napoleon and Hitler underestimated the impact of the cold on their troops.

Effective Resistance: The Russian military and civilian population employed effective guerrilla tactics and scorched-earth strategies, making it difficult for invaders to maintain supply lines and morale.

Geographical Challenges: Russia’s vast size and varied terrain complicate military logistics, making it challenging for invaders to sustain a prolonged campaign.

These historical invasions have shaped Russia’s national identity and contributed to ongoing tensions with Western nations. The failures of past attempts to conquer Russia serve as a reminder of the resilience of its people and the challenges posed by its environment.
Wikipedia History is Now Magazine

Lenin believed that the West had historically attempted to invade and conquer Russia, which influenced his revolutionary ideology and policies. He viewed these invasions as a significant factor in shaping Russia’s political landscape and the need for a strong, unified socialist state.
Wikipedia Medium

Lenin’s Perspective on Western Invasions

Lenin recognized that the West had a long history of attempting to invade and conquer Russia. This historical perspective significantly influenced his revolutionary ideology and policies. He believed that these invasions were not just military actions but part of a broader pattern of Western aggression against Russia.

Impact on Revolutionary Ideology

Need for Unity: Lenin argued that the historical invasions underscored the necessity for a strong, unified socialist state in Russia. He believed that only through socialism could Russia defend itself against external threats.

Political Landscape: The invasions shaped the political landscape of Russia, leading to a sense of urgency for revolutionary change. Lenin viewed the establishment of a socialist government as essential for national security and sovereignty.

Lenin’s awareness of Western attempts to conquer Russia played a crucial role in his approach to governance and revolution. He sought to create a resilient state capable of resisting foreign domination through the principles of Marxism and Leninism.
Wikipedia
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and of course, lenin was right. even after the one two punch of russias bill clinton/obama moment, gorbechev and yeltsin, russia’s government has managed to hold onto about 80% of its economy.

that 80%, has way way out innovated and produced the west which is run by towering intellectual mental midgets.

the midgets know this, and are hell bent to reverse the mess they made for all of this, by taking iran, russia, china and north korea out.

iran has proven there is a window, but they better know how short it is. putin is simply bewildered, and Xi is smug about it, he thinks he can beat them at the economic game.

but behind every trade, or free trade scheme, there is the point of a gun in the end.

Whether Russia has done more damage to Ukraine is irrelevant, since nobody in Washington, nobody in Brussels, nobody in Kiev cares about Ukraine or Ukrainians, except to the extent they can supply warm live bodies.

Yes, Ian, your read is solid as usual, here’s one thing though, The Donald and his Retinue of Freaks, Morons and Loser Sycophants have too many balls in the air, too many spinning plates as well. George Galloway covered yesterday that something I predicted happened, US MIC rounded up all the Iraqi leadership and jailed them, Country now under US Control for the moment. I don’t think it will last, I’d anticipate some Asymmetric Warfare to drive US out, but my prediction was that US would want 1-3 of their 13 bases back, a tough hill to climb but Iraq was the weakest link, and closest geographically to Iran.

Great comment by Dan K, and please see my response to you on the Open Thread. No my ALL CAPS wasn’t because I’m “on speed”, a hyperbolic assumption, it’s because I was parodying the hysteria of the Gin-Grinch crowd, how DARE some of us have hyphenated identities, we must all be “100% Pure American”, gag!! And my comments were directed more at your Racist Friend (see the They Might Be Giants song) than at you. I steer clear of White Nationalists personally, but your choices are yours.

spud, brilliant as usual; thank you.

I was going to just ignore the Troll’s usual bizarre hate-spew, and (as Ian notes) his desire for Nuclear Annihilation if Russia goes down too. Despite the fact he says he has children!! The Whole Planet must pay for the fact that Russia exists, eh? And the animals too; a sick puppy.

2 further comments by me:

1. The Troll’s belief that the big “fires” filmed for NAFO substantially damage anything is idiotic. In fact, Mercouris on the Duran shared that these “enormous fires” are just Smoke Bombs, they’re dropping large plastic baggies filled with oil, fryer grease or other combustibles, it creates huge black clouds for the Narrative to film. Damage minimal, even per NPR. Heard a snatch while driving to meet with friends yesterday, “Massive” Hit, but 1 person killed. Big whoop!? No, small premature orgasm.

2. I dithered for awhile (Libra Sun, always try to be careful and judicious), but now I am firmly in the Camp that Putin is a pathetic Coward, he needs to be kicked to the curb by his colleagues. John Helmer convinced me first, even the Duran a day or two back, they were like Putin is pathetic– mainly they were talking about fighting back with counter-Narratives to the West, doesn’t know basic PR talking points, which for fuck’s sake the Red Commie Regime of times past knew to a T. But they also seem to have realized Alexander’s old talking point, “Putin is the only one preventing WW III” is now irrelevant. The Euro-slugs so insane they share LAS’ lunatic thesis, “Blow up the whole World!! This Planet doesn’t deserve to exist if Russia is (the Biggest) part of it.”

Planet of the Apes coming soon? I hope not; we’ll see.

Perhaps one minor quibble about the post (that was a comment) is that it primarily presents the conflict as Ukraine vs Russia – ex. “The damage Ukraine is doing to Russia is real”, “Ukraine and Russia are attacking each other” – when the conflict is really the combined might of all of the West against Russia with Ukraine used as the tool, weapon, battering ram, cannon fodder, and the battlefield. Ukraine is used as both the hammer and the anvil against which the West is trying to hurt Russia (and fellow Slavs Ukraine, too, in the process), just as Afghanistan was brutally used by the West in late 70’s and in the eighties as a tool and weapon against the USSR.

The post later alludes to Europe as backing Ukraine, but there’s zero mention of the US, Canada, NATO, Japan, etc. The collective West has poured well over half a trillion dollars into Ukraine since 2022, and who knows how many more hundreds of billions in the eight years between the 2014 West-sponsored coup and 2022, and billions leading up to 2014 to create the conditions for the West-sponsored coup. It’s a war of the collective West against Russia that never would have happened otherwise. Ukraine is only the location of the West’s war of aggression on Russia’s doorstep.

Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former U.S. National Security Advisor, had prominently discussed Ukraine’s geopolitical importance way back in his 1997 book, “The Grand Chessboard”. He identified Ukraine as “the critical state” for keeping Russia and Eurasia subjugated to US hegemony.

This from MoA a few days ago makes clear that we in the West are making use of Ukrainians as our bloody tools.

“The Ukrainian army is in its ever worst position. Moral is terrible, losses are high and the recruitment methods are getting more and more brutal.”

“A recent investigation by the Ukrainian outlet Babel reveals murder and torture in the recruit training camps”

“The newly recruited soldiers, snatched from the streets, are living in guarded tents. Going to the toilet is only allowed in groups and under the eyes of an armed soldier. Grounds around the training camp are mined. Torture is routine. People who try to flee will be shot and/or get brutalized to death.”

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2026/06/ukraine-isnt-winning.html

We, the West, are the aggressors, just as we, the West, are the ones funding and arming the genocide by Israel, all to maintain Western hegemony over Eurasia and hence the world.

Putin this Putin that.
Putin it in the trash can because the dude’s an agent beholden to diverse oligarchal gods. The way it plays.
There’s no good and no bad but a whole lot of amorphous gray.
Fuck em all, you know?

When Russia amassed troops and material along the Ukraine border in January 22, I told the apprehensive in my vicinity. don’t worry, they’re not going to do anything stupid. And I truly believed that despite the year’s long provocations and the Donbass debacle that Russia would finesse it in another way beyond the military approach.

Well, okay, I’ve tracked it across the net— the opinions and speculations and the statistics and the lies and deception, and no matter how clever, insightful and tailored to the audience it all falls short.

Go ask an informed working class family in rural Russia their view.
Go to the rural wheat growing regions of Ukraine, and put your finger on the pulse.
Interview grieving mothers and fathers whose children died ugly wartime deaths.

Unlikely anyone here has set their sneakers on that ground.
So what do we know?
It’s all opinion, informed or not, and just like an asshole we all have one.

And oh yeah, that nuclear puke could well be spilling into your neighborhood someday soon.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

@cc — not gonna argue.

There’s an interesting tactical sidelight on how the war is going right now and how it may shift in the immediate future. I only have this from one source, not going to claim it’s totally reliable. But anyway–so, for some time Ukraine has been fairly successful with long range drones, hitting refineries, sometimes getting a piece of Moscow, and creating SERIOUS logistical problems in Crimea. This is one reason for the Russian northern offensive intended to create a buffer zone, which has seen distinctly limited success. Now, whether the Russians always knew this was the case or just learned it recently, it has become clear that these drones are mostly launched from trucks, which they would drive to pretty near the border so as to minimize the time available for Russian defences to shoot the drones down. It seems this is one of the reasons they have been quite successful lately. Launch from trucks has of course that advantage that trucks are mobile, you don’t know where the launch is coming from, you don’t know which truck has drones in it.

So, recently the Russians decided to just shoot all the trucks and all the gas stations. If a whole area is no-go for trucks PERIOD, it doesn’t matter which ones have drones in them. They started with the north, and their success seems to have been such that the Ukrainians have been forced to do their drone launching from further south, giving the defences more time, with the result that far fewer have been getting through in the last week or so. They seem now to be moving on to the regions targeting Crimea, which may begin to give them a handle on salvaging the Crimean situation. They’ve also been creaming all the gas stations along the most major highway supplying the sort of mid-area of the front where Russia has been taking a couple of major cities.

If this tactic continues to bear fruit, the amount of damage Ukraine can do with its long distance drones may shrink considerably and that in turn may doom both its expected attempt at a big counterattack towards Crimea and its attempts to generally increase the costs of the war for Russia.

The basic thing is that with the modern drone schtick, you can kill anything that isn’t hiding. In order to advance, whether with armoured vehicles or just infantry, you need to leave your hiding spot and move. Then, the drones kill you and the advance fails. And the thing is, the problem also applies to drone wrangling squads themselves, not to mention whoever is keeping them in supply–bringing fuel, more drones etc.; as soon as they get in a truck or whatever and try to move the squad’s position forward to project power further, they can be killed by the enemy’s drones. Basically, the battlefield becomes static because moving things die.

I suspect that these “motherships” will also be vulnerable to getting taken out by enemy drones if they don’t get hidden and stay that way, leaving the battlefield static again.

And yes, Russian stuff is getting blown up too, there’s no doubt, war is like that, just like a lot of Iranian stuff has gotten blown up since February. Just because Russia & Iran have had a lot of stuff blown up doesn’t mean you’re not winning.

Hey guy, you have the wrong comparison. Iran is likened to Ukraine, not to Russia, despite Russia using Iran as a foil whilst it instructs Krasnov on how to proceed against Iran. Hey Iran, have you ever considered there is more than one Great Satan? That perhaps Russia, your supposed friend, is the Great Satan also because why would the Great Satan have just one face? I mean, look at how being allied with Russia helped Assad and Syria. Is this your future? So long as Russia is your ally, it may well be and it’s just a matter of time.

Yes, Iran is more akin to Ukraine in this regard. Iran is defending itself against an enemy or enemies who have engaged in illegal aggressive war against it just as Ukraine is defending itself against the same, so your last sentence could just as easily, maybe even more appropriately, be phrased as follows.

Just because Ukraine & Iran have had a lot of stuff blown up doesn’t mean they’re not winning.

I would not listen to anything Mercouris, MoA, Simplicus or most other alt-media have to say.

Their penchant for wishful thinking and cognitive dissonance are something else. Their track record of past predictions shows this.

Great comments from all but the one predictable, deranged source we all know to discount.

Oakchair, nicely done!! Yes, we all know who the Baddies are. But as Justin Trudeau (now out of office, only known for banging Katie Perry post-Russell Brand marriage, Russell #MeTooed though he was Diddy’s bitch, still not in jail for decades-old sex harassment) whined after the Canadian Parliament gave not one but two Standing Ovations to the then-98 year old Yaroslav Hunka for his Waffen SS Unit’s (formed by no less than Heinrich Himmler himself) 1943-45 slaughter after rape and torture of at least 4,000 Ukrainian and Polish Jews (mainly, not exclusively; the disabled, gays etc. also slaughtered per Nazi-Banderist ideology), li’l Justin whined, Nobody should be talking about the applause, that furthers “Russian Propaganda”!!

Hunka in a memoir for his local University in Canada called ’42-45 “the best years of my life.” That University refused to take that bio after the bad press. LAS should look into it, he’d certainly get off on the violence and racism.

All the Holocaust Deniers or promoters, LAS mainly, see here– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaroslav_Hunka_scandal

And my AI informed me that Hunka’s Auto-bio has only been “discussed” by those who have seen it, nobody will publish it for now. (I’d bet however that there are Samizdat versions circulating among the Neo-Nazi True Believers. I’m sure LAS has friends here, he may want to ask around.)

“14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician),” pretty heavy shit there; even better he rose to the rank of “Rottenfuhrer” (can’t make this shit up, sad my keyboard won’t do umlauts.) The University of Alberta had been planning to name part of the Library after him when the book was published, but best laid plans, etc.

“In his memoir, Hunka referred to the Wehrmacht as “mystical German knights who give ‘bullets’ to the hated cowards”, referring to fleeing Polish soldiers and civilians.[13][14].” Careful if even reading this, LAS, I don’t want you to soil your shorts with a massive Orgasm.

“In 1985, the government of Canada formed the Deschênes Commission to investigate claims that Canada had become a haven for Nazi war criminals.[28].” A nice fig-leaf, only one person ever prosecuted. Oh, but Nazi-Symps in Canada despite Canada having been an Ally and lost men in Europe, found that ” “Charges of war crimes against members of the Galicia Division have never been substantiated.”[28]”. Memory-hole that per Orwell, as I said, Holocaust Deniers. I’m definitely with the Simon Wiesenthal Center on this one, Canadian Holocaust denial disgraceful.

Enough beating of that dead, stinking rotten horse, the #2 of the Canadian Government Chyrstia Freeland, a 3rd Generation N@zi, like Ursula Von der Leyen (husband’s name, shows their Noble Status) of course famously created in Canada the “Victims of Communism” monument, like the US’s famous Vietnam fallen memorial of Maya Lin, has inscriptions of the fallen martyrs’ names, many Waffen S.S. names. A great summer tourist site for Lie and Suborn, family and friends.

What mago said, what cc said, what rkka said– latter notes that the “Winning Bigly” Drone tactic recently is futile. Suppose some enemy of the Brits had invaded Newcastle and tried to burn all the charcoal briquettes, incinerate the local population. A Sisyphean Task, will never work.

Purple Library Guy correct, has done the research, Crimea is being hit causing real deprivation, harm, in most other areas it’s scattershot bullshit, minimal damage. The Crimeans will tough it out, they are majority Russian-speaking, Russian Orthodox, don’t want to be N@zi-occupied, have their Churches destroyed, children banned from speaking Russian or have 3rd Reich-inspired School Curricula, as seen in plucky “democratic” little Ukraine.

Carborundum very strong on Military knowledge, yes it is a “phase shift,” though they’re losing badly on the ground, constant Hail Mary distractions to look like they’re Large and In Charge. It works on the stupidest in the West, viz “facts on the ground,” mostly meaningless. Whomever (likely cc) noted that the Collective West poured Half a Trillion $ into Ukraine between Cookies Nudelman’s 2014 Coup (when Crimea fell completely into their Ally, Russia’s hands), the amount channeled in previously hard to say.

I haven’t looked at MoA in at least 5 days, will do so soon. 1 brilliant Hail Mary plan I saw this morning is to create a provocation so that Russia will accidentally kill a Garden Member, the Jungle will be punished. (Geographically no jungle in Russia, but hey, Karl Rove narrative rules, “We create our own reality.”) I’m sure there are dozens more such Crackpot Rube Goldberg plans circulating. This failed the first time Zelensky tried it, 2023, shot an errant missile NW into Poland, hit a farm where 2 men working around midnight, one dead, one badly injured. Zelensky demanded NATO Article 5 for “Collective Defense” and full-on WW III. Even Joe Biden’s people wouldn’t go there.

A Cascade is coming, by late Summer or Early Fall. But LAS for now will get what he wants, tens or hundreds of 1,000s more dead Ukrainians, Woohoo!! Slava Ukraina!! To the last Ukrainian!!
See Mercouris here with Glen Diesen if more data needed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o4muQ-mexI

SMO goals nearly done, the 5 Regions over 90% captured, Fat Lady to sing, late this year or early next. Unless Finland decides to ignite a Nuclear War and total human and animal annihilation. Personally, I don’t pray. Out of my control, best I can do is fingers crossed.

Oh, and to Nat Wilson Turner, thank you on Finster’s Nihilism.

As I’ve previously said, I’m with Finster 75% of the time when he’s Cynical, that is more than warranted; I set a healthy boundary at Nihilism, just as I do at Hindutava Bullshit (even though I believe Reincarnation likely true, in a Perfect Universe we’d get both Reincarnation and Nietzsche’s Eternal Recurrence, but I’m not Dr. Pangloss, I’d like that to be the case, cannot know until my flesh dies and I cross into the next Stage).

25% of the time Finster is pure Nihilist, he cheers on Genocide and Death. At least LAS is more consistent, 100%; oh, and to Tallifer, as the quote goes, Every word a lie, even “and” and “the.” I’ll only quote one line as representative: “6. There is indeed still corruption in Ukraine, but the many recent court cases and investigations show that Ukrainians as a whole want to get rid of it and conform to the rule of law as exemplified by the EU.”
ROTFLMAO– See here, Zelensky best buddy back to TV days Mindich flees to Israel with $100 million embezzled from state companies (amount a bit too neat, obviously an estimate). https://www.defenddemocracy.press/zelensky-associate-at-crux-of-ukrainian-corruption-case-said-to-have-fled-to-israel/

Dose this bother you a little? $100 million stolen that could’ve gone, per you and Ms. Lindsey Graham, to “killing Russians,” now unavailable. There was corruption pre-Maidan, it is far worse and more open, congratulations.

Oh, yeah, Ukraine believes in human rights, when American Citizen Gonzalo Lira was jailed, had all his assets stolen without trial, tortured and sexually abused preceding Death by Medical Neglect– you’d call that Democratic I suppose? US State Department didn’t lift a finger to help him (Biden era), ask his family about the issue. You won’t though.

I side with “Defend Democracy” here, seems sincere, just as I stood with the Simon Wiesenthal Fund earlier in the thread. LAS says “The Enemy of my Enemy is My Friend” is always wrong. Idiot, it needs to be applied on a case-by-case basis. Keep on Wishcasting, Nazi symps. In 2 years you’ll be like the hardcore Confederates in the South, “Ukraine will rise again!!” Not in my lifetime, nor yours.

I am not celebrating anything. I am noting how the world actually is and how smart people act in the real world, whether we like it or not. Otherwise, Nat provides an argument from consequences.

And perhaps he could point to my praise of the MSM? Altmedia and MSM both live in fantasy words, just different ones.

The alt media are handicapped by the combination of the dearth of verifiable information with a flood of disinformation. The established media are contributing to the dearth and flood.

Many in the alt media are already marginalized for other reasons, but they remain vulnerable to further penalties. There may be a measure of safety in being at least slightly incompetent at times.

No one, to my knowledge, is exiling, imprisoning or sanctioning MSNow political affairs consultants for being insufferable fools.

LAS reverts to his usual Both-Siderism bullshit, he has no other tricks in his bag. Since he nearly always makes bad faith arguments, 100% of the time when “Russia” in the mix, easy-peesy to pop his balloon animal, it wasn’t cute anyway.

“The point here is not that the West isn’t without sin but that Russia is also not without sin and the sins must never be forgiven let alone supported and enabled in real time as they are being committed. There are no good guys in this equation. They are all the baddies, but within that context, at least in regard to Ukraine and Russia, who invaded who?” Moron, Bernhardt covered this thoroughly on MoA, NATO moved steadily East toward Russia and then right to the border, since 2014 Cookies Nudelman Coup, Collective West built up 2 major armies of many 100s of Thousands for an Incursion into Russia, one was massed on the Border, a 2nd far West to police the Nazified Banderist state itself.

Less than 3 days before the Feb. 22 Defensive, “Provoked” invasion (you’ll never read the Scott Horton book, he knows whereof he spoke, the Z-Man demanded a Nuke to deploy against Russia from . . . somebody? The Big Lie by your ilk, “So unjust, Russia got to keep all the Nuclear Weapons, Ukraine got to keep none.”

This is one of the rare times Clinton was right. If Ukraine got Nukes so would countless other smaller states that had them deployed, Moldova and many others. This was untenable. Also (surprised at how uninformed you are), just as Finland currently can’t use their Nukes without US permission, neither could any of the Russian Satellite States, you couldn’t have Ukraine invading Poland, e.g., or threatening it with nukes.

Nobody gave the little Cocaine Comedian Nukes, there were a few adults in the Leadership room at that time. And are you completely unaware that in 2024, Ukraine tried an ill-starred and ultimately failed incursion into Kursk, all its soldiers except a lucky few were killed quickly outright or taken prisoner, Zelensky a worse general than Ukraine’s hero Hitler. See here, and no, wikipedia is anything but pro-Russian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kursk_campaign

This was all stupid, cheap optics, like your fryer vat “bombs” on Russian targets to create lotsa smoke, no meaningful damage. To be fair, Syrsky could’ve shat out this turd, in any case it completely failed. Sadly, due to a great and productive day here, I have a hard stop for time, so I will need to continue this discussion later.

Tomorrow. To Bruce Wilder, I had great respect for you and agreed with you 90% of the time for a # of years, I am not ad-hominem attacking you for no reason, and unprovoked.

I lost an enormous amount of respect for you due to 3 posts, the first was when Rene Good was executed in cold blood, the killer swore “Bitch” after the crime. You did a post saying you didn’t care (like Melania’s sign on her back, Donald term one), you don’t like unsavory Lesbians with pink hair. Yes, Ms. Good’s lover was 30 feet away when she was executed, and had taunted the officer. To side with ICE because someone is gay, or because her lover had pink hair (I’ve had friends with multi-colored hair, blue, purple whatever. If it’s not your style don’t go there, you have no right to randomly call out others’ fashion choices, acting as if that somehow justifies murder.) Your action may have been pure cowardice, maybe you feared that like the rest of us who expressed disgust, you’d become an ICE target? (It is true that ICE tracked down an anti-ICE dad in a hotel in N.J. recently, took him into custody.) Your statement was still odious.

Next, you gestured that ICE was right to kill Alex Pretti, because (a) he had kicked out a taillight of an ICE vehicle at a previous demo, you were first to inform me of this, and (b) he was on a list. Well no, he wasn’t, he was murdered for acting like a gentleman and picking up an innocent woman that ICE thugs had thrown to the ground. Oh, and he had a legal-carry gun, never took it out or brandished it.

So no, the Death Penalty for minor vehicular damage and helping up a battered woman is unacceptable. Having taught psychology for some years, Kohlberg’s Hierarchy of Moral Judgment, you appear to be at the 3rd stage, of 6. https://www.simplypsychology.org/kohlberg.html

Corresponds to age 8-10 or 11: “Good Boy Morality.” Mommy and daddy say smashing another child’s toy cause you can’t play with it is wrong. (It is, ok.) Pretti damaged a taillight, okay. But nothing wrong with aiding a woman being abused publicly by numerous armed thugs. Nor should Good have been executed for improper parking, that’s not a Death Penalty crime. They were not legally deputized traffic cops, they could’ve asked her to move, when she blocked someone earlier outside the school and she was asked to move, she did so and was filmed doing so.

Third, you combined your hate of those who defy authority with broad-brush, racist and homophobic denunciations of 2 subcultures (I also taught sociology) about which you seem to know nothing, the gheys, and us Latinos. I am not accountable to you for respecting my Hispanic, Sardinian, and even Asian Mongolian heritage of only 11%, over the “white” nearly 89% of the rest of my genome. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. I called out bullshit like LatinX with many friends, I know what it is to be Latino. Once I was on a bus in Port Arthur, TX when working there, a Redneck asshole told me I should go to the back of the bus with the other beaners, I told him to fuck off. He wisely desisted.

We can do better than that here, sorry you have chosen to not do so. You have 2 massive Achilles’ heel, a childish black/white view of morality, esp. viz sex and the gender spectrum, and contempt for cultures you seem not to understand. We can discuss this more if I’m wrong, enlighten me.

Oh, and your post yesterday was brilliant, I will say the same of you as LAS once graciously said of me, “ok, he seems to have a pretty high IQ.” A shame when prejudices negate that.

But I have to get back to you and LAS later, I have an offline life to live.

@Mark Level: “25% of the time Finster is pure Nihilist, he cheers on Genocide and Death.”

I don’t cheer any of it on. I would be delighted if the word were different from what it is. But it isn’t.

Finster– I will take you at your word.

Tone is hard to read sometime, that is why like Nat Wilson Turner I have regularly suspected you of full-on Nihilism; if I did you an injustice, I apologize and retract it. As I said with you at least 75% of the time, not always.

Scott Ritter is on Fire here, at the end he apologizes to Nima, he got “triggered” by Vance’s glib ignorance. OK. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN31eTxWpAs

I agree with him, Russia will win in due time. No respect for Rumsfeld, I know that he stole his “known knowns” and “unknown knowns” from a greater mind than his own, plagiarized insight. However even the clunkiest Mental Shorthand find its moment of application if enough time passes.

I have entirely given up on the Doctorow v. Ritter, Putin is Despised, Putin is Wise argument. Ritter admits his own and the other US High Command ignorance at the beginning of the War viz its duration and Strategy.

Russia like ZE (Apartheid Regime) does Strategy, clowns like the Cocaine Comedian TV Regime only do Narrative Tactics. “We slaughtered 30-some students at a boarding school today, so much Winning!!” “We set off a Petrol bomb that made really giant smoke cloud!” Meantime Russia takes land, slowly, every single day.

I will know when Phase 1 of the War is done, the 5 Oblasts gained fully, a matter of months, not years, who was right. De-Nazification will have to follow, along with carving out a strategic Buffer Zone in the West. An irony that in USA, the dumbest Libs think Monuments to Nazis in Ukraine okay, even though they supported BLM and taking down the Confederate Monuments, or those to Slave Owners. I have explained this to about 15 people over the past 3.5 years, only 3 or so got it. Better than nothing.

Again, assuming Finns not given the okay to launch Nukes, and the whole Planet Burns.

rkka, thank you much, a masterful bookend/ complement to my more humble takedown of Lie and Suborn’s crackhead fantasy, “Nobody’s ever mentioned or talked about Russian War Crimes” (scratches head), Me Wonders Why. Next LAS will look at a map of Canada, Great Slave Lake (don’t have to wonder what that’s all about) and announce that it’s bigger than the Pacific Ocean, a puny would-be competitor.

A World War, most deaths ever since the Black Death in Medieval times, and over 8 decades ZERO interest from anybody but a tiny cadre of scholars? So absurd. Does a single person on here buy his nonsense? (Okay, Tallifer and the other NAFO clowns, that one day they swarmed.)

I came on here to correct a misstatement by myself I think on Saturday morning: The 6 votes of SCotUS preserving 14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship, neither Alito nor Thomas voted majority, they and Gorsuch were the 3rd to say, “Get all the non-whites out.”

I heard the NPR discussion just b4 and after as the decision announced on a grocery run. Steve Inskeep noted beforehand that Alito had done some of the most lacerating questioning of the Trump Lawyer/Moron, he didn’t even have answers for most questions. And said even Uncle Thomas seemed a negative. Nope!!

Gorsuch only good on one issue, from the Left. He has been a great supporter of Native American Land and Culture rights, Sovereignty even if limited. Well, nice to have 1 virtue, better than 0.

On Tuesday, Due Dissidence covered that all the CHUDs hating the most on Amy Comey Barrett, the one woman on the CHUD side, a “traitor” and a “N—–r Lover.” They hate her because she adopted 2 children from Haiti, is diluting the clean white veins of USA!! How terrible to save children from US engendered-poverty, low wages and poverty, bring them to USA and give them a great education and likely bright future, Race Traitor!!

I’m generally no fan of the fetus fellators, BUT that said, when someone like Comey-Barrett walks the walk, nothing but (temporary but real) Respect for her. And Boofoo boy (it means “farting” in his H.S. Yearbook, not Anal Sex he claims, the more specific usage, used more frequently) Brett Kavanaugh not a racist Forced Deporter (Obama holds the record among Presidents, last I checked), maybe a smidgen of his Catholic Faith is genuine? I can’t know but actions do speak louder than words, JD Vance’s proclaimed faith a pure PsyOp for dumb voters, he agreed Pope Leo had the Right to criticize God-Emperor Trump, but said his being anti-War was spitting in Jesus’ face!! Well maybe not Jesus, this is Augustine and Aquinas, neither really fit to touch the hem of Jesus’ garment. Are Catholics still dissuaded from reading the Holy Bible? I don’t know, probably, your Priest (but not your Nun) knows better, they will pour their Wisdom into your brain, believe it all, and vote Vance!!

As to other Soviet crimes in Ukraine & the Baltics, one of the quickest ways to reduce them to outraged spluttering is to point out to them that if Adolf had won his war with Iosif, there would quite likely now be no Estonians in Estonian, no Latvians in Latvia, no Lithuanians in Lithuania, no Poles in Poland, and no Ukrainians in Ukraine.

What could have been is irrelevant. What is relevant is what was and what is. If Adolph had conquered the world is a useless, albeit entertaining, thought exercise (The Man in the High Castle, for example). I say useless because Adolph could never have taken over the world. It was never in the cards. In fact, precisely what transpired was what was in the cards, hence it was what transpired.

That aside, you’re too funny in your claim everyone knows about the mass raping of Germans by the reds versus the nazis and their Holocaust. We need Jay Leno to get out on the street again and quiz the public about this. My guess is pretty much everyone he questioned would have no idea about the red army rape fest. As for the the Soviets reaction to the epidemic of rapes of Germans among their ranks, well, it’s likened to Stalin and his butchers sending food aid to the Ukrainians after starving them for years during the Holodomor. There is no better way to squash nationalism than to starve it to death, collateral damage be damned. I guarantee you these same people Leno interviews also have no clue about the Holodomor genocide as well as the reign of terror of the NKVD to include the Katyn Forest Massacre as well as the Ukrainian Prisoner Massacres not to mention the Great Political Purges. All of that was responsible for millions upon millions of deaths. It was pure evil — as evil as anything the nazis perpetrated and most people in the West are still clueless about it to this day because the nazis carry such cache it overshadows any scrutiny of soviet atrocities. Israel and the zionists have been helpful in this regard. By cashing in on the Holocaust, they consumed all of the oxygen out of the atrocity room. They win the competition hands down and Russia is thankful for Israel and the zionists serendipitously carrying their genocidal apologia water for them.

About Nawrocki, this is a fair and balanced take on the matter.

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/trumps-friend-in-poland-is-doing-putin-a-huge-favor/

Zelensky’s UPA decree was an unforced error. Sybiha’s claim that the soldiers themselves chose the name and “had no intention of offending the friendly Polish people” may have been true, but it’s entirely beside the point. Faced with initial indignation from Poland, he doubled down by retorting that the White Eagle still adorns the chests of Catherine the Great, Benito Mussolini, and Gerhard Schröder—which also is beside the point.

The rank hypocrisy. Poland never retracted the White Cross bequeathed to the original fascist Benito Mussolini or Catherine the Great, the imperialist conqueror. Nawrocki is a historian, so he knows better thus his hypocrisy is that much more stark/poignant and transparent.

Catherine the Great, Empress of Russia, played a central role in the destruction of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Through political manipulation, military intervention, and orchestration of the three partitions of Poland (1772, 1793, 1795), she effectively wiped the country off the map of Europe.

L&S:

Adolf didn’t wanna take over the world, just build his “Thousand-Year Reich” of a few hundred million Germans on the graves of the “Untermenschen” infesting it, to include Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Poles, Ukrainians, & Belarus.

His model was US’s Western expansion. He even called the “Untermenschen” to his East “My Redskins”