The horizon is not so far as we can see, but as far as we can imagine

Iran For Dummies

~by Sean Paul Kelley

On the road to Meshed, 2006.

Between 1,000-2,000 non-Iranian born Americans visit Iran every year. In 2006 I was one of those Americans that makes up a tiny, tiny minority of Americans that have actually visited our bête noire, boogeyman, and our archest of arch foes. I was there when Iran was a founding member of the Axis of Evil. For 21 days I experienced it all first hand. Iran is more than the sum of the good, the bad, the ugly and the sublime: it is a civilization masquerading as a nation-state in a Westphalian world and deeply aware of the precarious nature of that fact.

Now that I’ve established my bona fides—you know, that I’ve actually visited Iran and also wrote my masters thesis on the ancient Persian city and one time capital of Khorasan and the Abbasid Caliphate, Merv—this endows me with certain privileges when it comes to discussing Iran. One of those privileges is the legit use of what scholars and philosopher’s call ‘argumentum ab auctoritate,’ in ‘Murican that means “argument from authority.” (And yes, I was showing off my knowledge of Latin, sue me.)

So, take it as gospel, I’m not claiming infallibility here, only that I am an OG authority.

A confession is in order: before I visited Iran in 2006 I had extremely wide and deep preconceived notions about what I would see and experience in Iran. Said notions were damn near hard-wired.

For example, I wrote in a travel essay for the San Antonio Express-News that I was completely wigged out by the picture of the Ayatollah Khomeini above the immigration line upon arrival. I shuddered, as if looking upon Old Scratch himself and thought to myself, “have I just bet my life on two-pairs with a 10 high? Fuck, I’d have been safer in Papua New Guinea.”

But I persevered through my very palpable discomfort.

By 2006 I had about 55 previously visited countries under my belt, including almost all of the ‘Stans, excepting Pakistan and Afghanistan. I had also covered most of Turkey and much of Anatolia. Also had been to Oman, the UAE and Bahrain. Oh yeah, and Azerbaijan, Iran’s confessional Shi’a confreres.

So, I had ideas and notions galore.

Piling Pelion upon Ossa (IYKYK) was a lifetime of American propaganda about Iran. And a lifetime’s worth a propaganda is hard to escape, no matter how open-minded a person you are, or how supererogatory you aspire to be. Yet again, I persevered and walked through my fear.

I add these far too verbose prefatory remarks because they produced a multitude of preconceived notions about Iran. Frankly, I’m too embarrassed to describe what my expectations were. I’ll simply be charitable and go with juvenile.

Esfahan

Stucco Mihrab in the Friday Mosque, 2006

No country has ever so completely and comprehensively demolished my preconceived notions of place, people and government like the Islamic Republic of Iran did. Iran detonated an ignorance obliterating nuke in my brain that to this day is difficult to describe.

With that said, I am now going to address, in often harsh and sarcastic ways, the seven most common arguments made about why Iran is such a terrible, shitty, murderous country and why we should destroy them.

Argument the First: Iran is a poor backwards country, populated by uneducated religious fanatics.

A simple four word Google search ( e.g. iran higher education statistics ) demolishes such ignorant balderdash.

Let’s do a little compare and contrast, shall we?

In Iran 61% of college age adults are enrolled in a university. The country ranks in the top 10 of STEM graduates, with a very strong emphasis on engineering. Women outnumber men in higher education enrollment standing at 60%.

College age adults enrolled in university vary between 41 and 43% of the population in the Home of the Brave. The United States also, like Iran, ranks in the top 10 of STEM graduates. But there is a caveat: the large, but presently shrinking, presence of foreign students majoring in STEM attending American universities. Moreover, in the United States, women outnumber men on college campuses by a 10% margin (44% vs. 34% for men).

Iranians uneducated?

Not so much.

I found, without exception, the Iranians I engaged in conversation to be not only well-versed with contemporary history and issues—great at geography too, one happily recited the state capital of Missouri (how many of you know it? And be honest)—and equally well-versed in their own 3500 years of history.

But it wasn’t just the depth of knowledge they had of their own history, but the sophisticated knowledge of the philosophy undergirding the European Enlightenment right up to Post-Modernity and the deleterious nature of Neo-liberalism.

Ornament at Persepolis, 2006

I had a conversation with a Hojatoleslam (a clergyman one level below an Ayatollah) that meandered from John Locke, Adam Smith to Sarte, ibn Sina, al-Ghazali, back to Habermas, Schopenhauer and Godamer. We rounded off the conversation with a discussion of international relations, and he cited Hans Morganthau and Henry Kissinger’s PhD doctoral dissertation.

Here was no religious fanatic, clergy or not; no AK-47 waving, screaming zealot; this human was erudite, witty and, dare I say, quite urbane. Not an adjective many Americans would associate with a member of the Shi’a clergy, no?

The clergy of Iran are very well educated in all matters secular. They are so for a very good reason, too. And no, they don’t all attend meddressehs so as to memorize the Quran, although they are capable of delivering a masterclass of Quranic exegesis when called upon. And if you don’t know what the word exegesis means go stick your head in a Cuisinart. You simply don’t have the intellectual firepower to have this conversation.

Reason being for aforesaid education: these men are being groomed to lead a modern nation state. And let me stress the word modern. Iran as a nation is fully reconciled with all the varied and sundry accoutrements of modernity. Is it a reconciliation that would make Western Civilization happy? Most certainly not. But it ain’t our country. We profess, ad nauseum, to honor and protect self-rule and self-determination in theory. In fact: fuck no we don’t. But I digress . . .

Importantly, the revolution in 1979 is used as a constant cudgel and brickbat in Western media accounts as that which led Iran down the shit hole to backwardsdom, like Afghanistan, or Saudi Arabia. This is a seriously tragic misconception that I’ll address another time. Suffice it to say that the Iranian revolution was about reconciling Iran’s deep and rich past with modernity and all its complications, which is exactly what happened.

Argument the Second: but Iran is repressive country that imprisons so many . . .

. . . the next person who makes this wildly inaccurate assertion will have a nuke dropped in their crotch.

You want to talk repression, okay, let’s compare and contrast one more time.

Here, in the land of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness between 542-698 per 100,000 people are imprisoned, I won’t even bother addressing how racist our prison policies are. The number for Iran is half that. Yes, go google it before your pajamas rot. I repeat: half as many, 287-294 per 100,000 in prison.

Are some of them political prisoners? You bet they are, I carry no man’s water. But the reality of home is that there are American political prisoners also, although most that are persecuted escape to exile, eg. Ed Snowden.

And before you open your mouth and say some more stupid shit, let me offer you five words: Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib.

As Grandpa Bruce, a cowboy’s cowboy and brother of World Champion Toots Mansfield, used to yell at someone doing or saying something stupid, “stop milking the bull!”

Argument the Third: Iran treats women like crap; remember they killed that girl who was protesting!

This is such a childish argument it beggars belief. It also deprives the young woman we’re discussing of her second most precious resource: her agency. First being time, obviously.

I will now admonish the children in the room, children who should be seen and not heard.

The adults are talking so Daddy will now spank.

Mahsa Amini was protesting and her protesting tragically ended in her death.

How many of us will see such noble ends emerge phoenix-like from such sacrifice?

That she died for her beliefs is honorable and worthy of my respect and veneration. What is unworthy of the woman is using her to score propaganda points. And yes, I’m aware of the hypocrisy of what I just wrote. It’s my essay. Write your own in opposition if you must. But be damned sure you’ve been to Iran before you do.

I digress . . . again. Guan Yin!

But it was the effects of her death that were most profound—and I’d hazard that while unhappy she had to die, she might find some measure of solace in the climate of change her death created. Fact is, her death had and has had profound effects on Iran. Her death galvanized hundreds of thousands of Iranian women in a way the regime could no longer ignore. And her death led to significant change in Iran’s enforcement and public perception of hijab.

For example: since 2022 many women in larger cities go without a head scarf. There is no need for me to provide you with a link. All you have to do is Google it. Or Tik-Tok it. It’s there to be found. I guaran-damn-tee-it!

I value intellectual honesty so it’s important to note that it is still illegal for women to go without.

But ask yourself, what unjust American law have you, or are you, willing to break, risking fines, perhaps prison, because it’s an unjust law? That’s a tough ask, ain’t it?

If you’re unwilling to walk and chew gum at the same time, we’ll never agree on a damn thing. So, as I am nothing if not considerate, and have no interest in wasting your time, I advise you to stop reading this. It’s only going to get worse for you.

The second most beautiful mosque in the world.

Argument the Fourth: they mowed down so many protestors who wanted a new . . .

. . . I’m going to throw the next person who shouts this slogan in an industrial-sized microwave oven, set it on defrost, and thaw out their brain.

Protestors risk their lives in any and every country the protest in. Seriously, you read a history book lately? How many African-Americans were slaughtered during our Civil Rights Movement? How long did it take? Still ongoing in reality.

And what about those middle-class white kids gunned down at Kent State over Vietnam?

Protestors die. It happens. Any protestor unaware of the potential for death is a fool. Even successful revolutions eat their own children. So, please, check yourself and that moral high horse you’re on at the door—so sorry to mix metaphors—because a.) that fucker’s dead and b.) it smells very bad.

Argument the Fifth: but they are divided. So many Iranians hate the regime.

Hell’s half-acre, that’s about as dumb as asserting Jessica Simpson has a PhD in Astrophysics.

A query if I may: as a percentage of the population, what percent of Americans hate their ruling regime?

I’d wager it’s closing in on 45%. What say you?

Now, close your eyes and imagine the president is a female Democrat? What’s the percentage now?

Gotcha, didn’t I?

Second, let me guess: you think bombing the Iranians will divide them, shatter the state apparatus like we did in Iraq and let loose chaos, perhaps? Aside from your utter lack of any semblance of morality and/or ethics—the strategic stupidity on display is galactic in size.

The idea that our efforts will degrade support for the regime to such a degree that the people stab it with their steely knives and really kill the beast this time (apologies to Don Henley) is barely worthy of a first grader.

But I still gotta ask: we’re six weeks into the war. How’s that idea working out?

I’ll give you a hint. Actually, I’d rather slap you upside the head like Gibbs would Tony on NCIS but I can’t reach you through wi-fi. I’m just not able to spontaneously disembody myself and reembody at will.

Sublime.

So, the hint comes as a question.

What happens when you bomb elementary schools, killing hundreds of little kids?

Peeps in any nation be getting unified.

Why?

Well, anger towards an outsider—the other—is a universal, time-tested human unifier.

And Iranians are pissed and more unified than ever.

Argument the Sixth: but, but, Iran is an Islamic religious tyranny!

Attend: the constitution of the Islamic Republic mandates two seats in parliament be held by Christians.

Feeling dumb now, aren’t you?

This will make you feel superhumanly dumber: one seat is mandated for Persian Jews.

You read that right: JEWS.

If you don’t believe me, google it.

Final Argument: but you can’t drink alcohol!

Who gives a shit about alcohol when opium is everywhere. Trust me on this.

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17 Comments

  1. ventzu

    A couple of points Sean.

    First, the protests were peaceful and triggered by a sharp currency depreciation – and by all accounts, the government sought to listen to the concerns. Scott Bessent boasted that it was the US that had caused this currency depreciation, in order to trigger unrest.

    These organic protests were then taken over by foreign influences, a tried-and-tested approach. The US / Mossad clearly had agents in Iran (they boasted that they are ‘on the streets with them’, and they shipped in weapons and Starlink terminals (to direct / coordinate), in order to escalate the violence – directed at police and passers-by. The authorities may have responded in a heavy-handed way, but it was also clear what the opportunistic protestors were doing. See previous protests in Nepal, Hong Kong, Ukraine, etc – rinse and repeat.

    Second, Iran is a country of 90m people of varying degrees of wealth. The people will inevitably have a range of political and religious opinions. Many of the Iranian diaspora seemed to be supportive of US intervention. But this does not necessarily reflect broader Iranian public opinion. And the ones who study and work abroad, are probably drawn from the richer, more western-oriented sections of society,

    Further the fact that the country has been under punishing sanctions since the Islamic Republic’s founding, can also explain a level of discontent with the government. Again classic regime change programme.

    Overall, the point is not that the West is in any way concerned about human rights in Iran. Rather it seeks to exert colonial control over a recalcitrant country that seeks to control its own destiny. Imagine what Iran would have been like, without the sanctions, without a 8 year war with Iraq (funded by the West), without constant threats and assassinations – would any country under these conditions be likely to be living “freer” or under tighter security?

  2. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Ventzu: all accurate and cogent points, but beyond the scope of my essay. I simply cannot say it all. Got to pick my fights wisely.

  3. Mark Level

    Great piece, Sean!! I met an Iranian in college, guy a little older than me, c. mid-80s. The only Iranian I ever met (I’ve known several) who was a deranged fundamentalist, he went off one time about how the Most Evil Conspiracy in the world was (wait for it) Freemasonry!! Criticism of the Zionist state would’ve been one thing; if there ever was a ruling Freemasonic clique (which was somewhat true in the 18th & 19th centuries), by the mid-80s it didn’t matter. Gerald R. Ford was the last Mason President, time has moved on . . .

    For over 2 decades in the Bay Area, Norcal, made an Iranian friend who used to board-game with us. He was 6-7 years older than me, had been in University in the US studying business when the Iranian Revolution occurred, a Business Major, and quite successful, worked for a big Data Corp. and owned several rental properties when I knew him. Totally secular mentality, but not anti-“Regime”. He and his Iranian wife went home every couple years for months at a time.

    Here’s some fun little trivia about the Shah and Iran that I learned from an issue of the SF, CA Literary (& more) magazine McSweeney’s, c. 2010: Just after the Shah was ousted for all his murder, torture and looting, Khomeini was able to fly home to Tehran from Paris. The article was about some flunky of Nelson Rockefeller, who NR got to be the Shah’s “handler” when he entered the US. It was a thankless job, but very well-paid, obviously. The Shah was mentally ill, so was his fail-son, the father of the current throne claimant, who was a “pilot” like George Bush and JFK Jr. One time he buzzed their compound in a plane, and they fired on him, but nobody died. Just good clean fun!!

    The Shah moved around a lot, there were times the US had to tell him to go for political reasons, I think I recall he was in exile in Mexico for a time, he was almost taken into state custody in Europe (I think Italy?) when he returned there, en route to some other destination, to be handed over to Iran. He wormed his way out of that one. Like Somoza (whose armored car was hit with a shoulder-fired rocket in South America, killing him, by the Sandinistas) he knew every day could be his last.

    So, the most interesting data point: When Khomeini returned, Tehran was mobbed by 11 million people who wanted to see him. Per the author, this was the largest known assembly of human beings in all of history. Mr. Popularity.

    Now another digression. There was a very right-wing asshole at the Unitarian Church I attended in Minnesota who was on the Governing Board. He was Finnish, and had a psychotic hatred for all Russians, he bullied me repeatedly because I had to tell him “I don’t support Ukraine”, I hate anything associated with Fascism or Nazism. This is due to personal biography, my dad was fairly fascist and racist a lot of the time, in the punk scene in New Orleans in the early 80s, my friends and I were regularly harassed by skinheads. (But only when they outnumbered us, and they were too cowardly to actually start a fight even then.) One time at a show a Skinhead spat at me and yelled “Dirty Kike!!” (I am Mediterranean, and every one in my immediate family does have a big nose.) He was lucky the spit didn’t hit me, coz I would’ve beat him down badly.

    Anyway, this guy Russ who was on the Board for some reason brought up Iran when a group of us were having dinner after a couple hours’ volunteer work in the garden, outdoors, mowing, planting trees, etc. I volunteered the above fact about Khomeini’s return. He was outraged and triggered, bizarre. Some stupid ‘Muricans hate all the people on the US State Department’s designated Hate List, he was mostly of this ilk, but believed himself falsely to be very “tolerant” and pro-multicultural. He later bullied me out of that group over being pro-“Orc”, but not before I had the chance to tease him. “Hey Russ, I think it’s great how the Finns had War Crimes trials for the men who’d fought alongside the Nazis against Russia in WW II. What do you think?”

    I asked if he hated all Russians and he said words to the effect that “Nearly all of them are BAD people.” Later when the Gaza Genocide started, he regularly approached me to share his disgust. But if the mighty Ukros had won and killed millions of Russians he would have been in Hog Heaven.

  4. Feral Finster

    Basically, every non-Persian westerner who visits Iran comes back saying the same thing. These are friendly, cultured, intelligent, open-minded people, who, in spite of the monumental historical and current wrongs suffered at the hands of the West, like what they perceive to be “western values” and want to be friends with the West.

    The West insists on demonstrating over and over that the “moderates” are laughably naive at best. The West does not want their friendship (in fact, the West disdains such things) but openly seeks their destruction.

    Israel demands it. End of discussion.

    (Historically, Persians were “men of the pen”, the writers, poets, artists, musicians, aesthetes, philosophers, scientists, while Turks were the “men of the sword”, the fanatics, the conquerors and obscurantists. Persian was the language of culture from Bosnia all the way to Bangladesh. Tamerlane may have ruled from Persia, but he very much saw himself as a Mongol and restorer of the Chingissids.)

  5. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Feral Finster: historically, there would be no Isaac Newton were it not for the Persians polymaths of Islam’s Golden Age. The Persian intellectuals and philosophers of the Samanid and then Seljuk states, like Ibn Sina, Al Jabar, Al Khwarezmi and others made possible modern science. First by adopting the concept of zero from the Hindhus. Then, by melding Arabic and Hindhu numerals into a system that made algerba possible.

    Has anyone ever managed to solve for n using Roman numerals? Fuck me. That’s nuts.

    I wrote my master’s thesis on these men. They were giants.

  6. For over 2 decades in the Bay Area, Norcal, made an Iranian friend who used to board-game with us. He was 6-7 years older than me, had been in University in the US studying business when the Iranian Revolution occurred, a Business Major, and quite successful, worked for a big Data Corp. and owned several rental properties when I knew him. Totally secular mentality, but not anti-“Regime”. He and his Iranian wife went home every couple years for months at a time.

    I apologize in advance for my lack of self-awareness and for being as evil as the fascists everywhere because I firmly believe they should never be given any truck whatsever let alone an ounce or less of compassion.

    So a privileged bourgeoisie, redundant I know, was/is not anti-regime. Chahla Chafiq wasn’t during the revolution either, but she is now and for good reason. Khomeini persecuted the Left that aligned with him during the revolution. He eliminated the Left in Iran which no doubt made the CIA pleased as pie. No wonder the CIA had no problem selling arms to Iran despite it being illegal. It was thanks for eviscerating the Left into oblivion. Good job, fellas!!

    The irony, or not, is the Left never learns its lessons. It does the same thing today with its support of Putin’s autocracy/kleptocracy in Russia. Chahla hits the nail on the head. The Left is so consumed with anti-imperialism, it totally abandons human rights. It can’t dribble and chew gum at the same time or, maybe, it truly doesn’t give a shit about human rights.

    Here’s a Chahla quote from the excellent and highly informative interview. I’m sure a few, maybe more, humanists who even bother will consider Chahla too “woke” for their taste.

    https://jacobin.com/2022/10/chahla-chafiq-iranian-left-khomeini-protests-feminism

    They never thought that Khomeini would bring socialism. They thought that he was just one step toward the socialist state they wanted to bring. They were aligned behind him because he represented this anti-Western anti-imperialism. The other thing was that they didn’t think that this mullah and other mullahs standing with him would be able to form a power structure that could hold. They thought that he would have some power, and then he would leave. And that’s when the Left would bring themselves together and create their own power structures. It would be like a transition period, like in the Russian Revolution.

    Nobody had the slightest idea of what an Islamist power structure could be, using fascism and killing people to keep its power, which is exactly what [the mullahs] did.
    It is even worse than the sort of authoritarianism of the Shah. Even though there was some censorship, some expression was allowed — whereas this system is completely totalitarian. There are zero liberties and complete censorship. In my book The New Islamist Man (or Person), I describe how, through these different methods and especially the political prison, they installed this fascist system.

    Iran created a model for the new Islamist person that would exist in this new society. And the first victims were the Muslims themselves. They were either killed or reformed into this model that the regime had created.

    It’s through this system that they created — which started also with the veil — what is called the “morality police.” The system was implemented especially in prison, a place where they have total control, like a laboratory of what they could try. Especially this idea of confession and repenting, which is still used, but was especially used against these political prisoners, as a way of breaking and controlling their minds.

    The Shah had his secret police, but you knew who they were. You could recognize them. Whereas Khomeini said, we are going to create a secret police of thirty million, which was more or less the whole population. He created these Islamist surveillance presences everywhere, in every place of work and every place of study within the whole society. This is how they’ve been able to keep the power for more than forty years.

    The new generation hasn’t made these mistakes because they’ve grown up in and lived through this Islamism that was so foreign to my generation. So they know exactly what they’re fighting against.

    An important part of this huge mistake [during the revolution] was the confusion around Khomeini as a religious leader. What many people missed was that he was not just religious. He had a political religious ideology that he wanted to impose. Khomeini had this whole theory of religion taking power over society, through the Sharia laws, the Islamic laws. There was confusion about this among the left groups in Iran, and overseas, too.

    It’s important to note that the student movements outside of Iran were very powerful back then. Every year the Confederation of Iranian Students was sending messages of support to Khomeini — and these were leftist groups. And yet Khomeini never hid his views or his thoughts. In the 1960s, during what we call the White Revolution, the Shah’s regime was doing show reforms, like giving women the right to vote. (It was absurd because the right to vote in a monarchy, where you can’t really pick your leader, makes no sense.)

    But at that time, Khomeini attacked this idea of giving the women the right to vote, saying that women are supposed to stay at home. It was a misogynistic attack, but none of the left groups took it seriously, or even criticized him for that. He was always who he was. All the opposition groups were happy with him because he was radically against the Shah.

    There were these Muslim opposition figures in the West who were close to Khomeini and were translating everything that he was saying but filtering out some of the stuff. But that doesn’t explain his support from the Iranian public, which was listening and reading his words in Farsi. So they should have known what he was saying. He was not hiding his ideas. There’s a common misconception that he was lying and got people to believe him. But we must take responsibility.

    We lied to ourselves.

  7. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Like and Subscribe: tl;dr

  8. Gaianne

    Sean Paul–

    This was laugh-out-loud fun to read.

    I am also American, and also aware of how vehemently Americans typically cling to their delusions.

    –Gaianne

  9. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Gaianne: thank you very much. I’m tickled that you enjoyed it.

  10. Mark Level

    LAS, you are not telling me anything I don’t know about Khomenei’s betrayal of the actual Leftists who supported the Revolution, I have been aware of that for decades. And an ad hominem Purity Pony attack on someone you don’t know as “bourgeois” is just silly. I’m not upset that you wish to troll me, I’ve said plenty negative about your views, and I welcome your hatred and resentment.

    I mainly wanted to share about the excellent piece in McSweeney’s, some of the background things that were going on in the US. You pretend to be Left, but your fervent support of Ukrainian Banderist thugs belies that self-presentation, you have no credibility with most of us. I am neutral about Khomeini’s initial popularity, don’t care one way or another, just thought it was worth sharing.

    You Purity-post about Mamdami constantly, yet if you’d read a poll of New Yorkers you’d see that so far he has very high popularity, literally 3-4x what most of the political elites get. There are reasons for that, including the large tax he just imposed on the “pied-a-terre” 2nd estates that Multimillionaires have which has made them threaten to leave, Good Riddance!! (But 90% of them won’t, they’re not going to have the Elite (above bourgeois)) “Culture” stuff they get in NYC in Chatanooga or Flori-duh.

    You write anecdotally from time to time, your post that Ian originally blocked and then you got him to share it later, about how you “hate white women” shows you are not the type of person who actually works to build coalitions for actual political change, you’re a poseur and nothing more. Oh, where will that money from multimillionaires go? To child care subsidies for residents. How dare he, right!!?

    Too bad you can’t make it out of this country as planned, to South Africa or Haiti. I guess you would qualify as “bourgeois” to people in both those places if you did so, this doesn’t really demonstrate empathy or self-awareness.

  11. different clue

    Here is an active contribution that Iran is making to World Popular Culture even as we watch: AI-programmed Animated Lego Videos. Like this one:

    “A MESSAGE FROM TEHRAN 🇮🇷 | The World Is Watching You, Trump (LEGO Rap Story)”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7pOq-cjnOI&list=RDW7pOq-cjnOI&start_radio=1

    And if this video and others like it have been made outside of Iran by Iran supporters, that just goes to show that the AI Lego Animation Video has already been weaponized,
    disseminationable-ized and viralized out into this wider world.

    And here is a negative-default contribution which Iran is also making ( or maybe helping President Fat Donnie Two-Dolls make), and that is getting the price of oil so high and keeping it so high that demand can be destroyed all over the world and all over America. And KEPT destroyed, until the oil industry itself is semi-exterminated enough to where it is too politically weakened to obstruct developments in oil-low and oil-free methods of running civilization, including shrinking economies and slowing civilization down to where a low-oil/no-oil energy base can keep it running nicely at its new slower smaller level, whatever that might end up being.

  12. mago

    Guess I’ll chime in with my little anécdota. So in ‘91 I ran a catering business in het Nederland and my bread and butter account was the Dutch B’hai conference center outside Nimegan where over the course of one summer I cooked some two hundred and twenty meals daily for a week during each convocation of the faithful, mostly Persians from Iran, although it was an international set. (Once a server came back to the kitchen and reported that one of the diners said, there must be an American in the kitchen. I served corn on the cob as I recall.)
    Anyway, they were a multigenerational crowd, and both appreciative and intelligent, not to mention multilingual, good looking and good dressers.
    So that’s my experience. May the righteous prevail.
    And, oh yeah, about opium? It constipates, but otherwise. . .

  13. mago

    Like and Subscribe, where’d you come from, where you gonna go?
    Cue the Clash, straight to hell if you wanna keep supporting the Banderite baddies who want all the goodies.
    There are people rotting on the avenues holding pieces of cardboard saying will work for food please help
    And where are you and what are you gonna do
    Got jack to do with Iran and way off topic, but since ML brought it just thought to pile on.
    Don’t be eyeless in Gaza, but dig the Soma if that’s your thing.

  14. Sean Paul Kelley

    @mago: yup, I dropped a few grapefruit sized slabs of wolf bait whilst indulging. I reckon I can empathize with women and childbirth.

    But beware: everything mother opiums gives, she revokes in a raging fury when fed inconsistently.

    Never. Again.

  15. JSR

    Damn Sean, Over the years I’d meet travelers who’d been to Iran and heard enough times that the hospitality was another level from any other place they’d been to. Iranians knew their reputations were awful with westerners, so went above and beyond to change the minds, at least with those few who visited. So I made a few very half hearted attempts to visit (visa plus other requirements for American citizens were cumbersome if I recall. Plus no Israel visa stamps allowed) but didn’t get it done. With the recent American/Israel led war I figured that dream was dead. And now you go and rekindle it like nobodies business. Thanks 🙂

  16. Sean Paul Kelley

    @JSR: war or no war, had I the chance to return, hesitate I would not. I’d go all in. No bout a doubt it!

  17. Jorge

    Is there any evidence of recent shootings of “thousands of protesters” in Iran? I’ve been assuming it was total BS.

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