As sometime contributor DanfromTo points out, Epstein performed “necessary” tasks for the elite: control thru blackmail and the provision of experiences many of them genuinely want to have. Power is allowed to people who can be trusted with it by other members of the elite, who will do what the elites want: whether that be bailing out rich people or committing genocide.
Some people, like Biden, will do these things because they are true believers, but it’s always best to have them collared, in case they have an attack of conscience or just decide that the bread is better butter on another side.
Epstein wasn’t the first pimp to rich people and he won’t be the last. Almost no one who fucked under-age women (or performed worse acts, there are indications of murder and cannibalism in the files) has actually suffered any consequences. There’s no real reason for American elites to stop and Israel, certainly, needs collars on new members of the elite.
So who replaced him?
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DanFmTo
Thanks Ian for taking this throwaway thought and putting more around it.
I think maybe that the “OSINT” types (not the specific guys on Twitter who tend to be zionists & pro US empire) could possibly find this by tracking movements of private jets, yachts and sales of private islands to identify which ones might be owned by people who have Epstein’s profile (i.e. a very rich person whose wealth is hard to explain, has no obvious real world business interests and known for an indulgent lifestyle).
There really can’t be that many private islands or megayachts being visited regularly by the 2nd tier elites, the airport book authors and top academics whom the top tier elites want kept in line.
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… (or performed worse acts, there are indications of murder and cannibalism in the files) …
Cannibalism? I didn’t know Idi Amin was also an Epstein client.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVQaPg2E4Zs
Seriously though, some of these so-called witness/victim accounts appear to be nutters coming out of the woodwork and jumping on the bandwagon which is tragic because it only serves to undermine the credibility of the REAL victims direct and indirect, and let’s face it, most of us are the REAL victims to one degree or another considering Epstein’s purpose.
I have yet to see any Chinese who were on Epstein’s client list or in the files. I guess China runs a tight ship in this regard and perhaps many regards. Kudos to China in that regard.
ProNewerDeal
Ian, great question. I have the same question for what is the real 2026 current status of the global illegal narc0tics sector, in terms of what covert agencies are involved “managing” the trade, and who are their current ally DTOs.
In Iran Contra in the 1980s, per Gary Webb C1A allowed the Nicaraguan Contras through dealers like Contra Danilo Blandon (I refer her as the Blandon DTO) to traffic “product” in the USA (for example to Ricky Ross in Los Angeles) in return for using a portion of the profits to off-books fund the Contras in their war against the Sandinistas. IIRC the Blandon DTO “supply chain’s” DTOs like Medellin Cartel (production) & Guadalajara Cartel/Miguel Felix (transportation through Mexico) were “allowed” to supply the Blandon DTO.
I wonder what the situation is now. I had wondered if C1A/Zambada Sinaloa faction was the current Blandon, but Zambada got kidnapped and imprisoned in USA last year, presumably awaiting trial.
I would guesstimate that the USA/SDS (“Supranational Deep State) retains supermajority “market share”, and any US-enemy nation covert agencies from say Russia or Iran have a minority stake in the “industry”.
Feral Finster
I wanted to write this in response to your previous Epstein post –
Was it not of old written that “There is never *just* one cockroach.”?
For every cockroach you see, there are a hundred that you never see and never find out about.
Epstein is that one cockroach.
Feral Finster
@DanFmTo:
“I think maybe that the “OSINT” types (not the specific guys on Twitter who tend to be zionists & pro US empire) could possibly find this by tracking movements of private jets, yachts and sales of private islands to identify which ones might be owned by people who have Epstein’s profile (i.e. a very rich person whose wealth is hard to explain, has no obvious real world business interests and known for an indulgent lifestyle).”
Hell, just go to Ukraine.
https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/p/biolabs-bodies-business
Mark Level
There is a special psychology of pimps, Epstein had it, over the years he learned to go even further given who his masters were, and their level of violence, psychopathy, and impunity. Finster is correct, many waiting in the wings.
Before the latest drop, someone did a nice piece on Elite degeneracy, they pointed out that these people vie with one another to performatively commit hideous acts of violence and bloodshed (just as the Libs performatively perform virtue with their Lawn Signs), these people are ultra-competitive by nature. Given that (Captain Obvious) fact, the levels of violence and cruelty that such people can commit is pretty much off the scales, far beyond what a Street Pimp (let’s say a moronic idiot like Andrew Tate, trying to talk like his disgraced hero Dr. Jordan Peterson) is capable of doing.
So yes, the reported texts covering “murdering and cannibalism” are likely true. Now, L&S is not entirely wrong (he has an amazing ability to be half-right, consistently) that some of the reports are “nutters coming out of the woodwork”. I will not claim to have insight into the Signal to Noise accuracy of such claims, but Due Dissidence yesterday covered the murders, frequent, of former victims who were trying to squeal, or just share what had happened. A woman in Puerto Rico, for instance.
Now we’ve been watching a Live-streamed Genocide in Palestine for over 2 years, the Corporate State has no problem killing off whistle blowers. The famous case of Gary Webb during Iran-Contra, 2 shots to the head, what a strong effort!! A couple of Boeing whistleblowers who testified in court during the last few years, etc. Cannibalism is about the grossest thing I could imagine, but there are always outliers.
L&S wrote somewhat perceptively recently (as I said, half right often) about the esoteric idea of “egregores” which are shared between groups. He could’ve been a bit less pretentious and used a better-known term like Zeitgeist, but he is essentially correct.
So consider the case of QAnon and the idea of Elites consuming “adrenochrome”, etc. Now these ideas were popularized by the likes of the David Ickes set first. I think as long as one recognizes that the idea of Reptiloids is a metaphor, and not an actual reality, the common sharing, the intuition around such an idea,likely has a valid basis. And given the CHUDs amazing powers of Projection (every accusation is a confession) it’s very possible they picked up at outlier events on a subconscious or even unconscious level.
Is there any Evil these people would not commit? I find it hard to imagine one (okay, few would be nihilistic enough to call for the extermination of the entire human race, since they’d be along for a ride.)
For anyone who wants to see a cinematic depiction of a Man trying to be Nietzchean Superman and becoming a monster of Nihilism I recommend a French film called Coup de Torchon, generally translated as “Clean Slate.” Based on a Jim Thompson work (he understood the Killer Cop archetype very well, as his father was a rogue cop in Texas), the events are transposed to colonial Africa, as the Nazis approach the French to displace them. And the lovely Isabel Huppert has a central role, 1981 film. Directed by the great Bertrand Tervanier.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082206/?ref_=fn_t_1
Oh, and DanFmTo’s opening suggestion is useful. I lack skills in that area, but certainly interest in the topic of elite Rape/Drugs/Trafficking/PDF files for blackmail is now part of the Zeitgeist that won’t soon be quashed.
mago
I dunno. According to the MSM it must be some Russian oligarch or cabal thereof, because by their accounts Epstein was a Putin pimp.
KT Chong
Diary of a 16 Year Old Epstein Victim:
i.e., an actual sex slave who was pregnant. and gave birth to (at least) one baby:
Narrated — quite graphic:
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnV9oklAWMk
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-VmZHzkFmM
Direct Link:
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2012/EFTA02731433.pdf
bruce wilder
It does make one wonder about how little is publicly known about how politics works. How far does this secret world go to explain the simple fact that politics is so unresponsive to popular interests or opinion?
Purple Library Guy
There may be a need for someone to do what Epstein did, but that doesn’t necessarily mean there is one. They can’t always have what they want. I don’t think it’s all that easy to build up an Epstein, and it’s harder now. I mean, the blackmail deal kind of goes like “It’s tacit, you don’t have to worry about it, as long as we’re all in the same club nobody will really know–only people who go ‘off the reservation’ will suffer.” And that deal did not go so well . . . sure, people haven’t gone to jail . . . yet . . . but reputations are going down, a lot of these assholes are probably experiencing a moderate amount of anxiety about this stuff.
A lot of the more moderate “Sure, I’ll do weird sociopathic things at a party if that’s what all the cool kids are doing” plutocrats are probably having some second thoughts about just how weird of parties they want to be involved with. Building up a new Epstein with the whole phenomenon Epstein brought together will run into a certain amount of resistance.
Probably right now there are a moderate number of LITTLE Epsteins without nearly as much social reach or cachet, but serving the needs of the more determined monsters in a much more seriously discreet way, with a good (but not excellent) chance they’re not intelligence tools at all. And, there are I’m sure plenty of party assisters who will furnish escorts but will be for a while quite careful about letting in anything underage.
No doubt there will be an Epstein again . . . but not yet. Who knows–by the time the next one appears, it might not even be Israel pulling the strings.
different clue
There are books about the illegal drugs shipment side of this whole thing.
” The Crimes of Patriots
A True Tale of Dope, Dirty Money, and the CIA ”
https://wwnorton.com/books/The-Crimes-of-Patriots
” The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia ”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Politics_of_Heroin_in_Southeast_Asia#Background
Book about the Contra-Mena-Clinton-Seale-etc. intertie with cocaine specifically . . .
” Barry & ‘the Boys’: The CIA, the Mob and America’s Secret History ”
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/824562.Barry_the_Boys_
” Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA ”
https://dukereportbooks.com/books/compromised-clinton-bush-and-the-cia/
They wouldn’t have lured Epstein back or brought him back in order to kill him in jail if they hadn’t already long since had in place all the structural and functional replacements they needed with the sure knowledge through extensive field-testing that those replacements were functional and reliable. Whoever ” they” is.
Many years ago someone in my family was married to someone who did mid-level specialized data-pictorialization-for-presentation and study information work at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. I was once visiting with these people somewhere in Anywhereville, Connecticut and was lucky enough to be there in place when a long-before issued invitation to attend a party in greenest leafiest Connecticut was taken up and honored. And I got to go with them.
They were rather above my league. But they either found me interesting to talk with or were nice enough to pretend they did. I remember asking one nice young lady named . . . well, we don’t worry about that . . . who told me her job was tracking various huge money flows for various key crucial commodities all around the world. I jokingly said that I bet there was one set of money flows that the Fed did NOT keep track of , because it would be just too embarassing to admit that this truly vast sector of money flows even existed. And that would be drug money flows. And she told me that actually I was right. Drug money flows were NOT tracked in any way. And while she did not know the reason for sure, she suspected that the reason was indeed that overt admission of the existence and size of these money flows would be just too embarrassing. Nothing said, nothing guessed. Don’t ask, don’t tell, don’t even know.
It reminds me of a BBC roundtable-discussion held by some talky-heads on the subject of illegal contraband flows of all kinds. One particular person on that panel kept reminding the others that they were losing or had lost the plot. The plot being, that international criminal networks were not sentimentally wedded to the illegal drug trade. They were unemotionally interested in any contraband which could make big money . . . drugs, illegally minded tanzanite, rhino horn, rare parrots from Australia, anything easy to move and sell for money. And the way to stop that stuff was to stop the money moving itself. And the way to do that was to study every clever lawyer and clever banker and every other clever person who was involved in designing these international money movement and sheltering networks and get them all safely into various prisons. It might be a hundred thousand or so people world wide. And as long as the governments of the world did not take that step to take every money-moving money laundering money-sheltering engineer off the field all at the same time so that no professionals existed anymore able to provide these services ( which the criminal networks are not able to provide for themselves), that the governments of the world are serious about making sure that all the contraband trades and the money flows continue.
The other panel participants did not really like that and showed their quiet distress by studiously ignoring everything he said, after they gave him equal time to say it.
By the way, here is a funny story. One of the ” Fed folks” ( that’s what they called themselves and eachother) told me about how one time all the important Information Technology people in the New York Fed building were discovered to all be in a bathroom together, all “lost in a snowstorm” ( all sniffenhuffing cocaine). It was handled very quietly. They were quietly separated from employment ( I don’t know on what terms in order to keep them from talking) and no police where ever called and no press was ever told. The Fed felt that if world-wide money traders ( the legal ones) heard anything about that, that confidence in the dollar itself might be compromised and the dollar might drop in price.
Was that really true? I don’t know. The teller of the story seemed very sincere and believable. And it seems too truther-than-strange to be able to make up.
KT Chong
Diary of A 16-Year-Old Sex Slave:
Another narration — IMO, this one is better, ~14 minutes of straightforward and succinct reading from the diary, with lots of details and without much commentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxpFgugBW-I
bruce wilder
Matt Stoller’s take on Epstein is very interesting
https://x.com/matthewstoller/status/2018388941389373748?s=61
In Matt’s telling, as democratic institutions became under neoliberalism a mere front hiding the machinations of power, someone in Epstein’s “structural position” became increasingly critical to how things worked. If we actually lived in an oligarchy, we’d know who the oligarchs were, as some wag put it.
Feral Finster
@Mark: thank you for the kind words, but I wasn’t saying that there are wannabe Epsteins waiting to be The One (although I am sure that there are many such cases).
Rather, there already are other people playing similar roles as Epstein, purveyors of forbidden fruit, brokers of sordid connections and dirty deals, gatherers of kompromat, etc..
Just these others have kept a lower profile so far.
Preston
I have no idea who will replace Epstein, but there’s a fair probability that anti-aging techs and methods that exploit young people’s health may be next up. There are plenty of legal companies pulling plasma from young people and selling it to the wealthy. My thought is that some technology will remain hidden from view until people start noticing that rich people are living well past 100 yrs. I also suspect lots of gene editing of human embryos will be another hidden benefit of wealth.
Nat Wilson Turner
Maybe Palantir is the new Epstein. That’s Whitney Webb’s notion.
Eric Anderson
Why do they need one? It’s all in the open now and not fuckall is being done about it.
Edward Q
Witney Webb thinks the Epstein blackmail system has been replaced with a blackmail system based on surveillance of our internet activities. If nothing else compromising information can be planted on our computers.
KT Chong
House Spellman.
The House of Larry Ellison now has its hands in finance, tech, media, and social platforms—almost everything.
Spellman is their real Jewish surname. Ellison is their American “front” surname.
House Spellman/Ellison has maneuvered into a structural position where they aren’t just participants in the economy—they own the infrastructure (the technology, the data, the media, the capital, etc.) upon which the economy runs. They are now an actual feudal dynasty.
Richard Childers
Who has replaced Jeffrey Epstein? Larry Ellison, I’d guess.
I’m reading https://www.rt.com/news/631998-how-many-handshakes-from-epstein/ and I’m asking myself, how many handshakes am I from Epstein?
I worked at Oracle Corporation and my manager did not report directly to Larry but her boss did and she knew Larry personally. That’s two hops.
Larry knows Donald trump who knows Jeffrey Epstein. That’s two more hops. So I’m four hops away from Jeffrey Epstein. According to the ‘six degrees of separation’ social networking theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation), we’re all within six handshakes of one another and so four hops is not unreasonable.
But in the back of my head was your question, about who is now running things, seen when I viewed this page, earlier: and I got to thinking. Why are there no direct connections between Jeffrey Epstein and Larry Ellison?
– Both hard core Jewish supremacists
– Both college dropouts
– Both promoted over others
– Both now insanely wealthy
– Both approximately the same age
– Both deeply tied to ‘intelligence’
– Both own islands
… and then I got it: Jeffrey Epstein and Larry Ellison are in competition.
But now Larry’s competition is gone and the field is wide open.
Apparently insanely wealthy Jews have a hard time finding Jews who are both smart AND worthy of their trust. Corollary: smart Jews don’t trust one another.
Food for much thought!
More info: https://salanave-runyon.org/herbie.html
different clue
@ Edward Q,
” If nothing else compromising information can be planted on our computers. ”
Exactly.
So if someone were to ask me . . . ” So tell us, Mr. Clue, what is this Child Pornography doing on your computer?” . . . my response would be ” You tell me. You put it there.”
Or if someone asks about and implies ” skeletons in your closet, eh? hmmmm?” ,one coud reply ” my closet has whatever skeletons you put put inside it ahead of time.”
Just like the police used to “find” drugs on or around someone they wanted to arrest for any old whatever reason, blackmail and compromat engineers will put stuff on your computer or in your closet to pretend they “found” it there.
When it is done to troublesome officeseekers, the only recourse the mere public would have is to say to itself ahead of time . . . ” everything is permitted and all is pre-forgiven ahead of time as long as this officeseeker advances our Economic Class Combat WarFighting interests.
” Fake compromat” needs to become a ‘thing’.
@ K T Chong,
If the Spellman family wanted an “English” sounding name, why wouldn’t they keep Spellman? Spellman sounds just as “English” as Ellison. And if you could find out their “prior” name was Spellman, they weren’t keeping it very secret, were they?
Spellman or Ellison, what they do is a problem. And when White bussiness-folk like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk do it, that is just as much of a problem. Does anyone have any ideas on how to exterminate the businesses of the Houses of Spellman, Bezos, Musk, etc?