This was the situation when they fired:

Right hand holding his phone. Left hand on the ground. Zero threat to anyone. His gun, holstered, which he never went for, had been removed by an agent.
This is an execution. The Agent has not been positively identified (though there’s a possible ID floating around), and was immediately removed from Minneapolis. The ICE agents attempted to keep local police from the scene.
This is the best summary I’ve read:
an ICE agent physically assaults an annoying woman who is whistling at him to antagonize him, Pretti steps between the officer and the woman to protect her, Pretti is the restrained by 5 officers on his hands and knees, one of the officers notices he is armed and yells “gun,” an ICE officer disarms Pretti and while running away accidentally discharges the weapon, then another ICE agent reacts to the negligent discharge by shooting Pretti in the back multiple times while he is on his hands and knees.
No one has been charged, I can’t tell if there’s any investigation into the shooting: there certainly isn’t a federal one, and the local governor and mayor appear to be wimping out: going thru the motions without any attention of charging anyone.
This isn’t the first ICE execution, and who knows how many have occurred that weren’t filmed. Then there are all the people dying in detention, where they routinely keep 80 people in a cell, lights on all the time and beat people who ask for medical aid.
One of the ICE agents applauded when Pretti was killed. When Renee Good was killed the agent who shot her called her a “fucking bitch” and refused to let a doctor help her.
Police in the US are almost always bad. The job attracts authoritarians who like the idea of being able to push people around, but even the minimal safeguards were let loose on ICE and the Border Patrol—they took the job because they like being able to hurt people without even the remotest possibility they might be held accountable.
This is part of a larger pattern. The Trump administration ignores about a third of all court orders against it. Just ignores them. The rule of law has completely broken down in America at the elite and enforcer levels. It was already mostly broken, but there was a final red line: elites smarter than Trump weren’t willing to obviously ignore courts. Perhaps important people might ignore Congressional subpoenas, but Congress wouldn’t actually institute contempt against them, so the facade remained.
Now law is gone entirely. The first, second and fourth amendments are in tatters. Habeas Corpus is dead, ICE and the BP just routinely ignore it. This a common law protection, centuries old. (In the UK they’re making it illegal for jurors to not convict people if the judge disagrees, ending jury nullification.)
Civil liberties seem like “nice to have”, and so does the rule of law, but they aren’t. Without them a society can’t function. That whole “high trust” thing goes away, and no one trusts anyone else. The economy grinds to a halt and civil society collapses.
The silver lining here, the hope, is that Minnessotans have come together to resist this. Thousands of people, not just protesting, but feeding those who can’t leave their houses, helping legally, and putting their bodies on the line. There are good people left in the US, but what they need to recognize is that fixing this requires replacing almost every member of the current elite: Walz has failed, Congress has failed, business has mostly been supine to trump as have universities. Everyone who’s in a position of power, whose duty and responsibility it is to resist has either failed or not even tried.
What needs to be done is to note the ones who tried or resigned rather than engage in illegality and immorality. Go after everyone else, replace them and if they actively engaged in evil, convict them and send them to prison. Put the people who did resist back in, not just politicians but prosecutors and judges and city councillors and so on, and then fill the rest of the ranks with people who went out on the streets in Minnesota and elsewhere and put their bodies in the way of evil, or who otherwise meaningfully resisted.
These are the people who proved themselves. When the brownshirts came, they are the ones who stood up. We now know who is actually moral, who is actually brave and who can actually be trusted when the chips down. This is the new leadership cadre, if Americans are wise.
Not saying this will be done, but these are the slivers of hope. The Brownshirts came.They were resisted. Those who actually resisted proved themselves.
Those should be your leaders. Anyone who failed should be out or in prison.
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The executioner has clearly done this before. Look at his stance and posture. A shot to the back of the head and then nine more for good measure. He is calmed and composed as an experienced professional would be. To minimize this implication is to further play into their hands. We must be honest about the extent of the threat and what we are up against. My guess is he is former military, maybe Delta Force.
Here’s an enlightening expose on Delta Force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rapQBUNhri4
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One more thing. It’s as though the entire governance of America is being restaffed. Restaffed by who? It’s plain as day. It’s being restaffed by the Parallax Corporation.
https://www.drkylegamache.com/blog/psychology-amp-cinema-series-the-parallax-view
Why The Parallax View Still Matters
What makes the movie such a fascinating study for psychologists is how it dramatizes real debates about testing, personality, and emotion. Could a corporation, or a government, identify individuals predisposed to violence and then weaponize them? Frighteningly, are there roles that the government actually wants individuals with little empathy? In an era where algorithms sort us into categories for everything from targeted advertising to security screenings, this question feels less like science fiction and more like actual practice.
The polygraph scene also highlights the limits of control. You can fake answers on a test, but you cannot easily fake your heart rate or your galvanic skin response. Our bodies speak even when we try to silence them. As psychologists continue to develop new tools for lie detection, risk assessment, and personality profiling, The Parallax View serves as a cautionary tale about how those tools might be twisted.
For students, I often frame it this way: films like this remind us that psychology is not just about the clinic or the lab. It is also about power. Who uses psychological knowledge, and for what purpose? Screening out violent tendencies is one thing. Recruiting violence on purpose is quite another. Any brief review of “dark psychology” shows that this is at least being talked about. There’s a reason the APA has an official statement about it being unethical for psychologists to aid in psychological torture of suspects.
Bob
There seem to be plenty of people in America ready to shoot their fellow residents in the head for the fun of it. I can’t imagine these types of people will be hard to find also in countries like the UK that haven’t encouraged gun-toting maniacs as part of every day culture.
In other words – coming soon to a state near you.
If not people then drones, Gaza style.
I think cultivating a fanatic anhomie towards any leaders would be useful. The end of civilisation is the only hope for the human psyche to sprt itself out, although that will be very unpleasant to live through.
Mark Level
I think you are quite correct, but I don’t believe the Tech Broligarchy that is really running things will do this, of course. Nor will the minimal “opposition” Dimmies do much, beyond a few small, face-saving measures. For instance, now that many Republicans are calling for Kristi Noem’s ouster (per Axios, among others), the Dimmies will go along and score a “win”, someone nearly as fanatic and insane will be installed with their aid. Noem went too far in shitting all over the sacred 2nd Amendment for the MAGA Base. An obvious, easy prediction: the Dimmies under the lead of their R “Daddies” will kick Noem to the curb, and then the D’s will join in funding ICE even more highly, to “professionalize” what is a Keystone Kops Gestapo. We’ve seen the film, 5-6 agents pile on Pretti after he helps a woman they’ve thrown to the ground get up (this was his “assault” on the Agents that Noem was raving about), he was filming with a camera and never went for the concealed gun, when an agent pulled it out and immediately (apparently) pulled the trigger shooting into the ground (NYT I think even covered this in detail, but won’t pay to cross their paywall), then they yell “Gun! Gun!” and one agent puts at least 3 bullets in his back, a couple more reportedly in neck and elsewhere. They denied and delayed, then relented and let an MD who lived in an apt. on the block and witnessed the execution do first aid, Pretti had no pulse and far too late for CPR. The piece you spill that they had already been researching him is pretty frightening, it suggests that at least at higher levels there is some competence and planning, whereas at the Street level, it’s just fat, untrained redneck types Cosplaying the Wehrmacht.
I actually went a bit to LG&M during the great Minneapolis Spartacus Revolt, as well as better sites like Counterpunch and MoonofAlabama, Due Dissidence, and others. So, citing LG&M– I was only recently made aware that in fact the defense of immigrants was well-planned out for months prior to ICE’s arrival, hundreds of people got legal training in surveillance and crowd tactics to protect the vulnerable. It was not the “Chaos” that the Trump Admin claimed, quite the opposite, even the diversionary whistles people used to warn the vulnerable were uniform. Kudos to Minnesotans, they did not crumble before a violent, murderous, armed occupation. Robert Farley of LGM did a decent story until (of course) the very last line when he bemoaned that we have a senile president, like with Joe, but of course Joe had “competent” leadership (while they diverted him with ice cream, the Corporate, Uber-Zionist pair of Sullivan and Blinky made all the decisions) and there was no “dissension” within the Dimmie Admin. Mostly correct. Stephen Miller was not invited to the Wiles-run meeting on the PR Disaster of the Pretti Crucifixion, signalling it’s TACO time. (Farley is not the stupidest LG&M scribe, they have a deep bench.)
I’m disappointed but of course not surprised that Walz and the Mayor are wimping out; that’s the D Brand, isn’t it? As already stated, the Dimmies will fund ICE although it is Trump’s personal Gestapo to hunt them down, throw them into a black site or otherwise disappear them. They will win the same Darwin Awards as R’s in Trumps first term who refused to mask and died of Covid. (Note I am not saying anything viz Pfizer or other big Rx shots, that is a personal decision. Masking was just common sense.) Months ago they assaulted one woman Dem congress-critter who tried to enter an ICE facility, charged her with assault, are attempting to prosecute her and others. But hey, gotta have ICE, right? Cops are always good, Military always defending American Freedumb.
Even Pretti said the line above, Due Dissidence covered this, he was a VA Nurse after all. I’m not shitting on or hating the man by noting that. He was a martyr due to common human decency, helping a woman they’d violently assaulted up off the ground was the proximate excuse to eliminate him. Perhaps it was unwise to have a gun on him, even hidden, he worked a dangerous job with long hours and may have needed one when leaving shifts in the early a.m. hours, there are lots of things we don’t know. In any case, he was clearly not a wild-eyed actual Lefty, so Trump’s killing one of their own (or adjacent) is just a bad look.
(Speaking of cops throwing women to the ground, I took the day off work in 2003 the day the Iraq invasion was scheduled, and was demonstrating in SF with a pretty good-sized crowd on Market Street. Early in the demo, an SF cop picked up a small, blond young woman by the shoulder and threw her to the ground. I was 60-70 feet away, like others in the crowd I didn’t take the bait and attack the cop, knew how that would end. We marched to a different location and there was a big, steroidal dude who was walking the other way who I saw banging into people ahead of me, trying to provoke violence and a fight. He got a glancing blow in on my right side as I stepped out of the way. Later when I’d protested at a Bush Fund Raiser for his re-election in South San Francisco, there was an obvious Agent in the crowd, big blond muscle-bound lunk who wore some vaguely subversive shirt and smoked a cigar while surveilling us. Just steered clear, no reason to put oneself in the target sites.)
Back to the post. 100% agree those who resigned (like the General who oversaw and was blamed by Hegseth for the earliest offshore fishing boat murders) would be the best people to right the Ship of State. Will that happen? Not in a million years.
I trust literally no one in the political/electoral class, except maybe Thomas Massie, though only on authoritarianism and the Constitution, not on economics or social issues; btw Marjorie Taylor Green, safely ensconced in retirement after all the CHUD death threats against her and her family, also had a good take on this murder.
Amazed to hear the likes of John Fetterman have (for the time being) gestured anti-ICE, but I have no interest in what the sold-out Dimmie Lesser Evil Collaborationists have to say, it’s all dust in the wind. I do hope that there is enough rage among the Minneapolis resistance that there are state/local investigations and prosecutions of both Ms. Good’s and Mr. Pretti’s murderers. This can certainly be done and there is nothing the Trump Reich could do at the federal level to stop it that I know of.
The only hope is organized, grassroots resistance as seen in Minneapolis. If this spreads it’d be good. But nothing meaningful will come from the duopoly except more militarism, violence, racist detention and deaths.
Feral Finster
1″ Police in the US are almost always bad. The job attracts authoritarians who like the idea of being able to push people around, but even the minimal safeguards were let loose on ICE and the Border Patrol—they took the job because they like being able to hurt people without even the remotest possibility they might be held accountable.”
Power attracts sociopaths the way catnip attracts cats. The power and the possibility to do violence represented by a gun and a badge attracts psychopaths in much the same way.
2. “Civil liberties seem like “nice to have”, and so does the rule of law, but they aren’t. Without them a society can’t function. That whole “high trust” thing goes away, and no one trusts anyone else. The economy grinds to a halt and civil society collapses.”
Lots of societies function without them.
3. “The silver lining here, the hope, is that Minnessotans have come together to resist this. Thousands of people, not just protesting, but feeding those who can’t leave their houses, helping legally, and putting their bodies on the line. There are good people left in the US, but what they need to recognize is that fixing this requires replacing almost every member of the current elite: Walz has failed, Congress has failed, business has mostly been supine to trump as have universities. Everyone who’s in a position of power, whose duty and responsibility it is to resist has either failed or not even tried.”
The problem is that they’ll just end up voting Team D, which is basically taking the strategy of doing as little as possible and hoping that Trump implodes himself.
But “doing nothing” will not fix the situation that made a glorified carnival barker a two term president. Granted, Trump is a bull goose fuckup, but the material conditions of enough ordinary people had deteriorated to the point where voting for him looked like the least bad option at the time.
BlizzardOfOzzz
This is Rich, Ian. A few days ago you were apologizing for communists, including the novel phrase (what was it?): the honesty of just-shoot-them. Commies are known for their honesty, so when they shoot you, that is surely their motivation. If your ilk ever take power, we all know what the police will be like, both from history and from your own words.
Now you would have us lament this gutter scum who died while attempting to hinder the the police in their efforts to deport criminal illegals. We are not the same as you. We acknowledge your humanity, and none of us would have you punished for thinking or speaking your own thoughts or protesting (actually) peacefully. No society in human history has ever admitted or could admit a right to interfere with police in their line of duty.
Ian Welsh
Blizzard,
that’s your last comment here. Also that sort of thing just does not happen in most countries, including in Russia, China and Japan.
Ian Welsh
Every semi-functioning society grants some rights. Serfs had rights, even. Citizens in China and Russia have rights. Romans had rights. One may quibble and say they aren’t civil liberties, but look up “nail houses” if you think Chinese don’t have rights. America is exceptional in the amount of rights it claims to grant, and exceptional in the fact that it doesn’t actually grant them.
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Now you would have us lament this gutter scum who died while attempting to hinder the the police in their efforts to deport criminal illegals.
Wow. Just wow.
Alex Pretti was not “gutter scum.” Those who executed him and those who ordained it and enabled it and those who are supporting it and covering for it and attacking Alex’s character are in fact the “gutter scum.”
The irony that Alex may have been executed by a vet considering his occupation and who he lovingly served. Here are Alex and his colleagues honoring a vet who just passed away from cancer. I’m guessing the vet who passed and all of the vets to whom Alex provided loving care, did not consider him “gutter scum” and would take extreme umbrage with your callous, malevolent characterization of him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMXxOdY3FiE
bruce wilder
“My country
right or wrong— Civil War Edition” !??Americans have been watching the escalation toward Civil War since the 2016 election with the Democratic (blue) side conspicuously failing to take any responsibility for the consequences of its own tactics or strategy. The Trump Administration (red) has been upfront with its authoritarian aggression. Stephen Miller could not be any more “hard-line” in his rhetoric. I have seen recruitment ads for Customs Border Protection and they are, imo, looking for enforcers, who will not shy from violence.
So far, the War of Narratives favors the insurrectionists heavily. They are the sympathetic victims of “unprovoked” violence. I use scare quotes because the well-organized protests feature a campaign of harassment and provocation and resistance to armed authority. Blue is using friction to strike sparks, not setting fire to the prairie, but even the sparks involve sacrificing human beings to the Beast. Governor Walz and Mayor Frey are supposedly negotiating an eviction of Federal authority over immigration.
Red has its favored Narrative ready. So far it is not gaining much credibility as far as I can tell, but its time may come. Red’s narrative is one of unfathomable corruption in Team Blue: unregulated immigration of millions, coupled with welfare frauds to finance immigrant communities ill-prepared for commerce, aimed at securing electoral majorities. The specific ideological motivations of the protestors, or the sources of funding and advice for their organization, remain more obscure so far — non-existent in Blue’s narrative of pure innocence and simply obscure in Red’s incomplete narrative.
I am not aligning with Team Blue. I don’t want civil war on any scale. I don’t want open borders and I never noticed the Biden Administration respecting democracy or the rule of law enough to own its own policy or enact it into explicit law. I see no justification for “sanctuary cities”.
My view is that in any representative democracy, conservative, populist and reactionary elements in politics are inevitable. The political problem for responsible leaders is to engage and tame followers of whatever persuasion, not to use them as dry tinder for igniting conflagration. If a fight cannot be avoided, fight for something good and positive, not simple destruction.
I don’t see many “responsible leaders” on either Team Red or Team Blue. I cannot survey followers. Nor do I see much democracy or responsiveness to popular will. The War of Narratives scarcely seems to touch the real purposes or policy intent of either side. The corrupting power of financial wealth dominates American politics in a way that makes both Parties tools of incipient “fascism” though I hate the ignorant way that term is applied as an abusive epitaph.
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I’m sure like me, you have found it odd that Border Patrol agents are engaging in urban warfare raids. I mean, who’s guarding the border?
When you watch the following video, it becomes clearer. Trump has backed away, somewhat at least, from sending in National Guard troops to terrorize so-called “blue” cities and instead is now increasingly utilizing ICE and the Border Patrol in lieu of the NG. This is not about deporting criminal illegal immigrants.
Considering the history of the Border Patrol as highlighted in the following excellent clip from Democracy Now, it’s perfectly suitable for the Trump Administration’s true purpose for all of this which is to terrorize the population into obeisance, nay fealty.
The Border Patrol is a highly corrupt, nay rogue, “law enforcement” agency seemingly accountable to no one. Over 80,000 dead on the border at the BP’s hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEA-hKkWDKM
This shit is bipartisan so the Dems are equally responsible and it’s no surprise that the Democratic Party’s response to this latest onslaught is to throw even more money at it under the aegis of reform.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSGMmfuUfo8
StewartM
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BlizzardOfOz was always a racist provocateur and pro-Trumpist. We’ve had several of these on this site. Remember Peter? Member of the “Friends of Fascists” group. Then there is the Trump apologist crowd on top of that.
The fact that Alex WAS ‘protesting peacefully’ and was executed for doing just that it proves Blizzard’s words to be lies. That’s par for the course for these types.
Ian-letting this thru since it’s accurate and Blizz is now banned.
Feral Finster
1. “Every semi-functioning society grants some rights. Serfs had rights, even.”
Even if we take it as granted, we can end up as serfs.
2. NC had a decent column, referencing yourself:
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2026/01/stephen-miller-ice-barbie-kristi-noem-tim-walz-ilhan-omar-civil-war.html
To answer the question posed in that column “So if they’re not deploying their police and national guard forces to protect their voters from Stephen Miller and his goons, what are Democrats doing?”
Fundraising.
For my part, am seeing a frantic Team D fundraising blitz.
NR
Not to pile on, but I think it’s important to be crystal clear about the facts of what happened.
1. Alex Pretti was an ICU nurse who cared for U.S. veterans. He had a license to carry his gun and open carry is legal in the state of Minnesota.
2. He was filming the ICE agents. He had his phone in one hand and his other hand was empty. At no point did he ever draw his gun.
3. He tried to help a woman that ICE agents were beating and was pepper sprayed for it.
4. After being pepper sprayed, the agents threw him to the ground and punched and kicked him. He moved his hands up to protect his head. At no point did he reach for his gun.
5. One of the ICE agents took his gun from him.
6. After Pretti’s gun was taken, another ICE agent emptied his magazine into him, killing him.
All of this is on video from multiple angles. This was a straight-up murder and anyone who says otherwise is a liar, period. Those are the facts.
Feral Finster
In case anyone thinks that the distinction between “no rights” and “the rights of serfs living in a panopticon” is anything other than academic:
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ices-secret-watchlists-of-americans
mago
Ah, good old Blizz. Haven’t seen his face around here for a while and won’t miss him now that he’s gone. Watch out where the huskies go/don’t you eat that yellow snow.
I hear that Minnesotaians have set up an underground resistance communication network that could serve as a national template. Good news if so. It would show that the Trump regime just scored an own goal.
The revolution will not be televised.
Mark Level
A small update: The Gray Lady just confirmed what Danny Haiphong said online earlier today, Trump is taking a big ICE Contingent along to Italy for “security” during the Winter Olympics!! Needless to say, the Italian people don’t feel very happy about this, and there is already pushback. (Few Italians old enough to directly remember Mussolini, but obviously many know the history.) Alongside Ireland and to some extent Spain, the Italians have been the most militant opponents of the Gaza genocide (shutting down ports sending ordnance to the Zionist entity, and sending a couple of boats, which Meloni claimed she would protect and then didn’t, to the Greta Thunberg and other Internationalists attempted Gaza aid blockade.) I guess the Trump dopes assume that nobody in Italy or the rest of the world has paid attention to what ICE is? Meantime, many countries will not attend the big FIFA competition in the US this year because they know their people would not be safe or have any “rights” supported. Inviting ICE in is like when Izzy soccer yobs were in Amsterdam, attacked and beat any Arab looking taxicab drivers in the town, tore down peoples’ Palestine flags adorning the outside of their apartments or homes, chanted “Why are there no schools in Gaza? Because there are no children in Gaza!!” triumphantly. Bad juju, bad p.r. Oh, btw I heard earlier today that the CIA (!!) refuses to coordinate with ICE & even CBP because they have such a thuggish, trigger-happy reputation. And this is an agency that loves them some Ukrainian Neo-Not-sees.
different c lue
It takes a lot to get actually banned here. The last commenter I remember getting itself banned here was Peter, and it took a comment full of the mostest vilest language directed against Ian Welsh personally for Peter to get itself banned.
Camelotkidd
Once again, a tour de force exposition reminding us that moral authority never goes out of style
Our society has elevated sociopaths for so long that it’s been illuminating to see that social cohesion and goodness still exists
Dan Kelly
Thank you NR. It can’t be made any clearer than that.
They are now in the process of creating a third category of ‘aggressive protester’ evidently so that they can execute admittedly non-violent protesters:
‘Both Good and Pretti were considered aggressive protesters; in Good’s case, for criticizing ICE officers while operating a vehicle; and in Pretti’s case, getting up close to immigration officers while filming them.’
Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche alluded to the term in a recent CNN interview, saying: “He [Alex Pretti] was not protesting peacefully—he was screaming in the face of ICE, he had a phone up right into ICE’s face. You tell me: is that protesting peacefully?”
When the CNN host pointed out that Pretti wasn’t violent, Blanche actually agreed, but went on to argue that there’s a third category for protest that is neither violent nor peaceful.
“I did not say that he was violent,” Blanche interjected, adding: “I said that he was not protesting peacefully.”
When I asked civil liberties experts what might be the legal justification for the expanded watchlisting, Rachel Levinson-Waldman, the Brennan Center’s Liberty and National Security Program director said that NSPM-7 and Attorney General Pam Bondi’s December 5 memo implementing the presidential directive “might be their justification.”
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‘Again, these watchlists aren’t the all-seeing eye of Sauron that many imagine. They’re more like the compound eye of a fly, a fragmented array of lenses (over 3,000 per eye in the common housefly!) that collectively form a mosaic. That mosaic—the ability to unify all the disparate lists into one master picture—doesn’t yet exist, sources tell me.
That, however, is the direction we’re going, especially with software packages like Palantir that can be customized to aggregate all that is collected.
“We do of course monitor and investigate and refer all threats, assaults and obstruction of our officers to the appropriate law enforcement,” says McLaughlin. “Obstructing and assaulting law enforcement is a felony and a federal crime.”
Impeding federal law enforcement has emerged as the Trump administration’s primary justification for actions against people like Renee Good and Alex Pretti.
As part of its new effort to support its operations in places like Minneapolis and Los Angeles, the Homeland Security Department, working with the Justice Department, has started more methodically tracking what it calls “aggressive protesters.” According to one senior official, this is a new designation the agency uses to describe the supposed threat posed by people on the streets.
Both Good and Pretti were considered aggressive protesters; in Good’s case, for criticizing ICE officers while operating a vehicle; and in Pretti’s case, getting up close to immigration officers while filming them.’
Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche alluded to the term in a recent CNN interview, saying: “He [Alex Pretti] was not protesting peacefully—he was screaming in the face of ICE, he had a phone up right into ICE’s face. You tell me: is that protesting peacefully?”
When the CNN host pointed out that Pretti wasn’t violent, Blanche actually agreed, but went on to argue that there’s a third category for protest that is neither violent nor peaceful.
“I did not say that he was violent,” Blanche interjected, adding: “I said that he was not protesting peacefully.”
When I asked civil liberties experts what might be the legal justification for the expanded watchlisting, Rachel Levinson-Waldman, the Brennan Center’s Liberty and National Security Program director said that NSPM-7 and Attorney General Pam Bondi’s December 5 memo implementing the presidential directive “might be their justification.”
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ices-secret-watchlists-of-americans
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https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-enemies-list-meets-media-blackout
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/trumps-nspm-7-labels-common-beliefs
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‘The focus in the National Security Council the next couple days should be on the revolution. These insurrectionests you have on the streets of Minneapolis.
Because guess what?
We have communists there. We have Marxists there. We have Jihadists there. That are trying to take down the Republic from the inside the American Republic.’
https://rumble.com/v74z4x8-bannon-tehran-isnt-the-problem.-minneapolis-is..html
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What Walz said about the situation in Minneapolis is true. But what is completely lacking is any serious strategy to stop Trump and ICE. Walz spoke about fighting “in the courts and at the ballot box,” but Trump has already made clear that he will ignore any legal decisions that challenge his authority. Moreover, the Supreme Court is controlled by a gang of fascists and reactionaries who ruled, in 2024, that Trump cannot be prosecuted for “official acts” carried out as president.
As for elections, Trump is making ever more overt threats to cancel or nullify the 2026 midterm elections, or—if they are held—conduct them under conditions of martial law. In an interview with Reuters published Thursday, Trump declared that he had accomplished so much that “we shouldn’t even have an election.”
Bloomberg News reported Wednesday that the administration is building a national voter database and demanding states turn over complete voter rolls, including Social Security numbers and home addresses. With this infrastructure in place, ICE agents could be deployed at polling places to “verify” voters, suppress turnout, and intimidate working class and immigrant communities.
In explaining Washington’s invasion of Venezuela earlier this month, Secretary of State Marco Rubio bluntly stated, “When [Trump] says he’ll do something, he means it.” This same logic now applies to Trump’s threats to invoke the Insurrection Act, cancel elections and impose martial law.
There is massive opposition within Minneapolis and beyond to the police-state occupation and Trump’s unfolding coup. In the week since the murder of Good, there have been daily demonstrations, high school walkouts, and acts of protest and resistance involving broad sections of the population.
But resistance will only succeed if it is grounded in the active mobilization of the working class, the immense social force that produces all wealth and holds the power to bring society to a halt. What is required is a shift away from the non-struggle and collaboration of the Democratic Party, and toward the independent organization of a mass movement of workers…
The Socialist Equality Party calls on workers to organize independently through the formation of rank‑and‑file committees in every workplace, school and neighborhood. The fight of workers cannot be subordinated to the operations of the Democratic Party or trade union apparatus, which is hostile to a real struggle against Trump.
Workers should immediately hold emergency meetings at every factory, school, warehouse, depot and workplace, union and non-union. At these meetings, workers should elect representatives to form rank‑and‑file committees charged with coordinating and directing the struggle and the defense of the people.
Resolutions should be adopted endorsing open‑ended strike action. Such resolutions must articulate a concrete set of demands, including the arrest and prosecution of Renée Nicole Good’s killer; the immediate withdrawal of all ICE, Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) forces; the abolition of these paramilitary agencies that terrorize immigrant communities; and the immediate release of all detainees held in ICE custody.
Coordinating committees should be established to link these rank‑and‑file bodies across industries and regions, creating the structures necessary for common action on a mass scale.
There is a powerful precedent for such a movement in the history of the city itself. In 1934, Minneapolis was the site of one of the most militant and significant general strikes in American history, led by Trotskyist militants and the Teamsters. Workers defied the Citizens Alliance, the National Guard and police repression. Despite shootings and martial law, they won decisive victories and laid the foundation for industrial unionism across the country.
Today, the situation is even more urgent. Workers confront not only employers’ associations and National Guard repression, but a fascist president, the paramilitary forces of the state and an escalating war abroad and at home.
Minnesota is not, as Walz claimed in his remarks Wednesday, an “island.” What is happening in Minneapolis is the spearhead of a broader conspiracy to impose dictatorship. Trump speaks and acts as the political instrument of the capitalist oligarchy, which is dispensing with democratic forms of rule. The Democratic Party, a party of Wall Street and the military-intelligence apparatus, is hostile to any genuine movement against this danger.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/01/16/paiy-j16.html
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If the ItalyGov is upset enough about Vanilla ISIS coming into their country to do something to stop it, perhaps the ItalyGov could simply refuse to let them off the plane and then deport them back to the US. Many of the Vanilla ICEs are Proud Boys, Alt Nazis, Jan 6 Pardonees, Oathkeepers, etc. They are highly skilled at beating up and killing citizen protesters who lack military or street-fighting or bar-fighting experience. But could they defeat members of whatever Deeply Quiet Special Forces which Italy may well have? Or even detachments of well trained well armed Carabinieri? The diplomatic fallout of such encounters would be bad but the physical fallout on the Vanilla ISISes themselves would be worse.
Again, I have to ask . . . is the ItalyGov legally obligated to let ICE in? If not, why exactly would the ItalyGov choose to let ICE in anyway?
And how do we know the ICEmen wouldn’t start running amok like the Hell’s Angels at Altamont and start beating up or shooting athletes?
If the IOC leaders and apparatchiks are the same kind of people today that Avery Brundage and them were back in 1936, the IOC won’t suspend or delay the games till ICE leaves Italy. Sports and TV contracts uber alles, after all.
Probably ICE’s primary motive for going there is to harvest photographs of all the attendees, especially the American ones, to put into the Palantir database. If they insist on photographing any EUropean soccer hooligans who might be attending the games, how would the soccer hooligans react?
Dan Kelly
Meanwhile, the current leaders in power in Washington are working on the classic ‘compromise’ whereby they split the bill so that the DHS-ICE funding will continue with some undefined ‘restrictions’ on ICE and reprimands for bad behavior.
That’s all folks.
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Trump and Schumer Move Toward Possible Deal to Avert a Shutdown
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/28/us/trump-schumer-deal-shutdown.html
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Remember that Chuck Schumer said his number one job operating from his powerful seat in the Senate is to protect Israel.
Trump is obviously completely owned by them and may even have converted to Jewishness in his first term according to Douglas MacGregor. He’s been called the first Jewish president a number of times including most recently by that Mark Levin Jewish Supremacist nutjob.
Whatever the case may be, remember too that the number one ‘domestic terrorists’ are probably Palestine supporters and those who speak out against what the entity known as ‘Israel’ is doing, namely attempting to holocaust-genocide-ethnic cleanse an entire population.
So we have a situation where ‘Israel’ wants Iran gone and the Zionist-occupied US govt is going to start another war against them and protesters and those speaking out are going to be identified as ‘domestic terrorists’ and dealt with accordingly.
Remember the Urban Moving Systems employee who said his fellow employees were all rabidly anit-American Israelis and one of them told him ‘Give us twenty years and we’ll own your media and destroy your country.’
You don’t remember?
It’s in the FBI report, heavily redacted though it is.
https://israelpalestinenews.org/fbi-docs-shed-light-on-apparent-mossad-foreknowledge-of-9-11-attacks/
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi%20report%20section%201/
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contact@ifamericansknew.org January 23, 2026 Censorship, free speech, Israel
Oppose Israel’s Abuses While You Still Can
The Israel lobby is working frenetically to crush free speech world wide, while governments are either negligent in stopping it, or complicit.
https://israelpalestinenews.org/oppose-israels-abuses-while-you-still-can/
Jan Wiklund
Concerning “the police is always bad” – Randall Collins, who has kind of specialized in researching violence, said apparently that they were made so when in service, see e.g. http://sociological-eye.blogspot.com/2023/02/three-police-tactics-led-to-memphis.html and http://sociological-eye.blogspot.com/2020/06/seven-reasons-why-police-are-disliked.html.
Raymond Chandler’s dialogue lines
– Policemen are also humans.
– They started out so, I’ve heard
was not completely wrong.
Collins’ core insight is that almost anyone can be got into a tunnel of violent behaviour if they are triggered from behind, from a “chain of command”. When that happen against one, it is deadly to show weakness, if so the adrenaline kick of the adversary will get completely haywire; this is what happens in wife-beating for example.
More of this in https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691143224/violence
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There is massive opposition within Minneapolis and beyond to the police-state occupation and Trump’s unfolding coup. In the week since the murder of Good, there have been daily demonstrations, high school walkouts, and acts of protest and resistance involving broad sections of the population.
Here’s the problem. The sentiment is correct but as a tactic this simply will not work. Burning down your home or your neighborhood in protest, be that burning metaphorical or actual, only serves the fascist’s agenda.
You can deal with fascism in one of two ways. Do nothing and allow it to run its course and fall under the weight of its own contradictions which could take 40 years or more or you fight it physically.
The latter will take the entire world united against America helping Americans who are fighting the fascists. It will be violent. Rivers of blood will flow. America will never be the same but it won’t be the same either way.
I see no true fight in the left in America simply because there is no left in America. The protesting results in containment in the sense that the end goal is to vote Dem in the feckless electoral process — yet again — and round and round it goes.
Ted Levine represents the face of fascism. This is what we are up against and despite well-intentioned people trying to resist, from my vantage either it’s a military coup or 40 or more years of horrific abuse at the hands of the fascists where there will be much suffering and gnashing of teeth and rivers of blood without any type of violent resistance meaning the blood is going to flow either way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTAKaShDU18
If Americans miraculously en-masse rose up to meet this challenge and take it to the fascists, would world leaders, Carney for example and the leaders of Europe, support them or would they continue to capitulate to Trump as they have been doing all along despite the performative rhetoric? For example, is Canada prepared to accommodate refugees from America if a civil war ensues? Europe?
Italy has a chance to show what it’s made of and refuse ICE goons on their soil. Will Italy take a stand? I doubt it. I posted that pic of Scheinbaum and Carney with Trump at the recent FIFA event for a reason. It was December 5th and they were perfectly fine with each other. They were smiling and yucking it up. Sheinbaum is now refusing to sell oil to Cuba. Carney will backtrack on everything.
bruce wilder
The Alex Pretti innocent victim narrative accelerated when the response to a new example of how he had been aggressively confrontational in an early encounter kicking out a tail light was countered by the assertion that that earlier example of petty violence had resulted in him being targeted for assassination.
Mark Level
This is one time Diff Clue and I agree. Why would a supine Italian gov’t. allow lawless, armed, untrained violent ICE thugs in to threaten, likely assault or even kill its citizens? What jurisdiction do ICE Agents have inside Italy? None, obviously, it’s not USA. This shows that CBP and ICE are personal Trump Gestapo. Now, Meloni is ideologically aligned with Trump, far right and crypto-fascist if not full-on, but still this is a deeply stupid surrender.
Trump has SS/ Secret Service agents as his formal protection. Now I will admit that for whatever reason they openly allowed shots at him in Butler, PA last year and may be untrustworthy, but I doubt there’d be any serious threats against him inside Italy, and ICE would seem to lack confidence as well for real security. The whole thing is incoherent, like 96% of what Trump does.
His agents just raided Georgia election offices and grabbed stuff to “prove” there was “election fraud” against him in 2020 there. He’s been in office over a year now, he was kind of slow to organize this if there was any there there. I am dubious of course, even had he “won” Georgia he still would’ve lost in 2020.
Very interesting info from Dan Kelly, thank you. Bruce W’s info is legit, first I heard of it, yes it seems clear that both Rene Good and Alex Pretti were on a death squad list, they’d been a bit too militant, vocal, so the murders seem premeditated and not due to the insane over-zealousness typical of Trump ICE. US supported death squads in El Salvador and Colombia in the 1980s and afterword, as many have noted these types of tactics generally “come home” at some point.
Meantime the mainstream, AP, reports that Trump has created a “growing cultural revolt” against his “crackdown”, it’s Normies who are frightened, not just “activists” and the White House is “spooked” by his unpopularity. This admin is rapidly approaching the last days of the 3rd Reich, not materially (German cities bombed to rubble, Russians driving the Deutsche forces West) but the “bunker” mentality seems to be firmly installed. Tom Homan is the “moderate” who replaces the insane, midget Bovino for immigration czar. (Which Kamala once briefly filled, denies, fucked it up. Maybe it can only be fucked up?)
Many people have asserted that Trump will be ousted peacefully before 2026 is out, by his own people under pressure of larger forces, once the mid-terms are decisively lost. Though I have Zero faith in the Dimmies, I think Trump’s Thanatos drive will bounce back on him. I guess we’ll see. I don’t see JD Vance filling the Big “Daddy” shoes, he’s got Peter Thiel, The Reptile, behind him, but no charisma, super-dumb also.
Carborundum
As a demonstration of proper use of force all the video out of this shows a total shit show.
Near as I can tell, that still is from after the shooting has started, probably after he’s been hit twice. He went down really, really hard after this, so I’d guess major damage to the central nervous system.
Given that they’re saying the weapon they pulled off him is a Sig 320, the notion that the agent grabbing the weapon had an ND (which it looks like to me he may have, tough to tell given the crap video) to kick this off is quite plausible. There have been numerous reports of them firing without the trigger being pulled (including from parts of CANSOFCOM where an ND gets you returned to unit), generally attributed to tolerance stacking issues. I think buddy heard the ND, panicked and cranked off a string without positively identifying a lethal threat, with additional sympathetic fire from one of his dipshit colleagues (reporting is two subject officers).
This is what shit training, worse recruitment and, most importantly, a sense of impunity coming from higher get you. Assholes.
spud
every three hours a innocent american is murdered by the police, and only .07% ever face justice.
as far as waltz, frey and ellison are concerned. they know full well federal law trumps state law, and they know that their is little they can do about it.
Understanding the Supremacy Clause
The Supremacy Clause is found in Article VI, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. It establishes that the Constitution, federal laws made under it, and treaties are the “supreme Law of the Land.” This means that when federal law conflicts with state law, federal law prevails.
Key Principles of the Supremacy Clause
Priority of Federal Law: Federal law takes precedence over any conflicting state law. This ensures a uniform legal framework across the country.
Judicial Obligation: State judges are required to follow federal law, even if state laws contradict it.
Preemption Doctrine
The Supremacy Clause leads to the doctrine of preemption, which occurs in two main forms:
Express Preemption: This happens when a federal law explicitly states that it overrides state law. For example, if a federal statute includes a preemption clause, it clearly indicates Congress’s intent to supersede state laws.
Implied Preemption: This occurs when federal law is so comprehensive that it leaves no room for state laws, or when state laws directly conflict with federal laws. Courts often interpret these situations to favor federal authority.
Historical Context
The Supremacy Clause was introduced to address issues from the Articles of Confederation, which did not clearly establish federal authority over states. It has been a cornerstone in numerous Supreme Court cases, reinforcing the federal government’s ability to enforce laws and treaties without state interference.
In summary, the Supremacy Clause ensures that federal law is the highest form of law in the United States, providing a framework for resolving conflicts between state and federal legislation.
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the system of immunity and limited liability built up under federal law has created a fascist state.
accountability is almost impossible.
waltzs big mistake was running with harris.
on his own with the DFL, walzt did give minnesotians some good benefits.
if the democrats were really worried about trumps second term, it would have been easy to get americans to ignore him.
biden could have not sabotaged student loan debt(that bill clinton and biden created)forgiveness, gave free medicare for all, free higher education, expand social security and made it bullet proof, and the voters in mass would have said, “TRUMP WHO?”.
instead they used unconstitutional lawfare, stared a war with russia, did little or nothing to reverse bill clintons free trade sellouts(handing trump another club, just ask sherrod brown when he ran again for congress in ohio, decades later, the voters were still complaining about bill clintons nafta), did nothing on health care, nothing on social security and education, and here we are.
now trump could have done in his second term what i said biden should have done, and today he would be on mount rushmore.
i told my family and friends that the democrats would pick waltz before they did. the reason why, they lost most of the great lake regions, where real productive GDP happened.
if you were to look at that region that was the democrat blue wall, it was bill clintons disastrous policies that destroyed that blue wall.
so the dim wit neo-liberals tried to get back the blue wall by running another dim witted clintonite, and hope to fool the great lakes into voting for them once again by picking the only democrat that did deliver.
so waltz should have known better.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis/comments/1qpt1gh/alex_pretti_interaction_with_ice_at_36th_park_on/
Bruce, let’s drop the narrative nonsense and discuss this outside of the confines of the various narratives.
The video at that link shows it all in its entirety. Are all of those people recording ICE and beeping their horns and blowing their whistles and confronting ICE NOT innocent victims? Would they not be considered innocent victims if ICE blew any one of them away like they did Alex Pretti?
What I see in the video is ICE casing a school. A SCHOOL! That is verboten. As are hospitals and yet they case hospitals too and completely disrespect the lives and rights of the medical caregivers. As is abducting little kids and pregnant mothers. The ones who aren’t innocent here are ICE. They are provocateurs. That is clear. It’s clear in every recording you see eof them and their provocative raids.
The citizenry told them to leave. They are creating a commotion and they refuse to leave and instead stay and further provoke. Because that is their goal.
Where are the god-damned police? Aren’t the police to protect the citizenry from harm and keep the peace? They are no where to be found in all of this. Fyi, during the Russian Revolution, the citizenry had long been abused by the police so when the Russians finally revolted in successive waves in 1917, they tore the police to shreds and the police deserved it.
I hew to no narrative. That is what is clear in the video and many of the videos if not all of them.
By virtue of Don Jr. unearthing this video footage, he provides clear evidence they are maintaining lists of people and they are targeting also further validating they are there to insight and not to deport criminal illegal immigrants.
I’m all for an effective immigration system Bruce, but this is not the way. It’s the exact opposite, in fact, and yes, the Dems are as responsible as the Trumpsters./Republicans.
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Carb, no way, no dice. Poor training is a dog whistle at this point to justify more funding as I have noted above. Instead of more funding, ICE needs to be shut down and disbanded and so too does the DHS. As my link above shows, more funding just allows the offending institution to get stronger and double down further and it does not ameliorate the alleged “incompetency.”
Carbordundum
I have no disagreement that ICE needs to be disbanded – I see no possible remedy for the agency other than that. I will stand by my assessment that that is the product of some truly shit training. That ain’t a former unit guy.
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How much training is required to be an effective to be a para-governmental domestic terrorist paramilitary? Reasonably surmising that to be the real point and purpose of ICE?
Meanwhile , the “leadership question” is interesting. If a whole ethnic-groupload of people can maintain the near-unanimous discipline required to maintain a near-total self-embargo on getting involved in public demonstrations or involvement of any kind, wouldn’t that show a high level of leadership within that community even if it is leadership in a direction the rest of us might or might not like to see?
Black American video content makers are working hard to keep putting out videos exhorting their audience ( and maybe wider circles of their people in general) to maintain stay-at-home stay-uninvolved stay-out-of-it discipline. I see examples of it and I see no examples to the contrary.
Here are two exemplary videos in that vein . . .
” IT’S A TRAP | Black Americans WARNED Against Protesting Against ICE Agents As Whites BEG For Support ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6ay9N_-5Co
and . . .
” Who Benefits When Black Americans Are In The Streets Crashing Out In Protests? ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icPKw-zvO3o
It looks to me like people like this are thought-leadership to say the very least within the Foundational Black American community. And just because they are leading in a different direction towards a different purpose than the counter-ICE activists in Minnesota, can we say that they are not also Leadership?
After non-Black America has depleted itself with Civil Conflict over the next few years or decades, Black America may emerge after much silently bided time as a powerful political strike force and command influencer.
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Here from TikTokCringe is a short video about how to clean pepper spray out of your eyes when you have been pepper sprayed at a protest, including some things to have already with you so you can be ready for when it happens.
” Love from Minnesota ”
https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1qrn9gt/love_from_minnesota/
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Here, from the damnthatsinteresting subreddit, is an item referencing a little manual of non-flashy, non-violent methods of low grade sabotage for people living under fascist regimes to slowly grind their gears and slow them down and cost them energy and efficiency. Passive obstructance, passive rejectance, etc. It was written in 1943.
” In the 1940’s the CIA adopted the Simple Sabotage Field Manual as a tool to combat fascist regimes. It details the peaceful and harmless inefficiencies that can, over time, weaken an occupying system by eroding output, coordination, and morale. ”
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1qrpblh/in_the_1940s_the_cia_adopted_the_simple_sabotage/
I don’t know how easy it would be to find copies of this or things like it. And if found, how easy it would be to understand some of the things in it deeply enough so as to be able to adapt and/or repurpose or redesign things found in it to match present day conditions and situations. ( One would have to hope that readers of such a thing would have mature judgement about telling the “friendlies” from the “hostiles” and the “neutrals” to know whom or what to target and whom or what NOT to target.
One could well expect mal-aligned “black bloc” types to just do this stuff to anybody and everybody to degrade and attrit every little side and layer of society in general.)
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Here is a MurderedByWords subreddit item showing first a map of Minnesota counties for Trump and Minnesota counties for Harris in the last election . . . Minneredsota compared to Minnebluesota, so to speak. And below that is a photo of two plates and two pieces of meat showing the flaw in that comparison, from at least one point of analytical view.
” “But the red part is bigger”
https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/1qrn8fc/but_the_red_part_is_bigger/
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If the right kind of mockery could help Trump die sooner, would that be worth doing?
If enough people fired enough heavy mentrons into Trump’s unstable mind, could that help his unstable mind go Chernobyl sooner and more undeniably? Could enough heavy mentrons fired into Trump’s unstable mind cause him to get himself Article Twenty-Fived faster than might otherwise occur, if at all?
” Brewery offering ‘free beer, all day long’ the day Donald Trump dies ”
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2026/01/brewery-offering-free-beer-all-day-long-the-day-donald-trump-dies.html
One hopes someone can find a way to make Trump aware of this offer. What if hundreds of thousands of people posted hundreds of thousands of little videos of themselves performing Voodoo Rituals on Trump Dolls and Trump Images and so forth. So many that Trump became very aware of how many people will go to that perfectly legal length to try letting him know how much they all want him to suffer and then die, but especially to suffer first. I have read that methods like that are a part of how Voodoo works, after all. Would it help Trump die faster if he knew that millions of polite law-abiding citizens are non-violently wishing for his speedy death by accelerated natural causes?