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A Word On Elite Pedophilia

More Epstein documents have been dumped, and they’re atrocious. It seems like most of the US elite was involved.

There are two reasons for this. One is that people who are super-powerful and super-rich feel like ordinary morality and laws don’t apply to them, and rape and torture and pedophilia are, to them, an ultimate rush, a proof of their power.

The other is similar to some gang initiations where if you want to be a member you have to kill someone. (Making your bones.) Once you’ve done that, you’re in, because they have you by the balls. You can’t betray them because they know who you murdered.

If you want to be in the top echelon of American (or Israeli, and possibly UK) elites they need to know you can be trusted. They need blackmail. You have to make your bones. Once you’ve committed an unspeakable crime, and they have pictures and video (remember, Epstein had cameras everywhere), well you can be allowed in, because you’re not going to use any power you have in any way the betrays elite interests, because they can destroy you any time they want.

(This is also how the Yale fraternity “Skull and Bones” is alleged to operate. You tell them your secrets to get in. They push your career. You’re one of them, and you can be trusted by other members, because you all have dirt on each other.)

Elite pedophilia isn’t a bug, it’s a feature, at least to other members of the elite classes.

 

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22 Comments

  1. Feral Finster

    Something similar could be said about the Catholic hierarchy.

  2. KT Chong

    … and MURDERS:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnsxkcWQjRc&t=2000s

    They SNUFFED women after using them, (i.e., rape and torture,) and then buried the bodies at a Trump Golf Course.

    They also murdered a trafficked underage girl who ended up pregnant — and her newborn baby girl.

    (The YouTuber is digging and reading through the release Epstein files.)

  3. KT Chong

    BTW, if anyone else is gonna watch any of the Epstein file breakdown videos on YouTube, you need to watch those videos in small bites. There is so much shocking information that my brain could not keep up and just blanked out.

  4. Feral Finster

    Where are Michael Tracey’s elaborate explanations and excuses, how all this is a nothingburger?

  5. Purple Library Guy

    It’s going to be interesting. Such gang rituals are useful to such gangs, but such gangs can still be taken down. And in this case, nobody controls the blackmail any more, and for a change maybe it’ll be the elites madly fighting each other like crabs in a bucket, trying to avoid the consequences.

    It should probably not require mention, but any elite that operates like this is by definition one that needs to be crushed. In order to require this, they have to be, first, immoral psychopathic bastards, and second, the whole basis of their rule has to be behaviour that the lower orders would scream vengeance for if they understood what was going on. Otherwise there’s no need for the obsessive secrecy and blackmail in the first place.

  6. mago

    These “people” are ugly in body speech and mind.
    Look at photos of any one of them. Repulsive.
    Read or listen to anything they say. Disgusting.
    To quote Frank Zappa, what’s the ugliest part of your body? I think it’s your mind . . .

  7. Carborundum

    Skull and Bones is a Yale thing.

    Given the numbers, this is a pretty small fraction of elites. Abhorrent as this bullshit is, it’s an edge case within much larger elite social networks, which have much larger societal, political and economic effects / dimensions.

  8. MF Lehman

    Skulls and Bones is at Yale.

  9. Feral Finster

    Also, keep in mind that the reality sordid parts have not yet been released.

  10. Mark Level

    Finster called it, Tracey made a bizarre, 3+ hours appearance on Due Dissidence, loudly and angrily arguing over the hosts that Epstein only copped to one light case of sex with a 17 year old girl “hours before” her 18th birthday, if they’d been in a different time zone it wouldn’t have been a crime at all, etc. Now this is borderline true, but Tracey brags of his “expertise” in the subject, he has read “every court file” on Epstein lawsuits so knows “nothing to see here, folks.”

    It doesn’t bother him that Alex Acosta of the first Trump Admin, then the Florida Attorney General, cherry picked the smallest case they had on Jeffrey, out of something like 38, and admitted publicly the reason, paraphrased, “He had intell connections”, Mossad, FBI informant, multiple passports, so he had to be treated with kid gloves.
    Acosta himself dressed his children up as the little girls (ghosts) in The Shining for public appearances, causing Reditteers to ask, “Are these little girls okay?”

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=alex+acosta+picture+daughters+&t=ffab&ia=images&iax=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecinemaholic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F05%2Facosta-1-370×247.jpg

    Mago references Zappa and his “Dumb All Over, A Little Ugly on the Side” applies here. Ugly parents, homely, scary-looking children all for public display. Pence is the only human looking person at Acosta’s swearing in.

    Carborundum has it wrong (again), Oh, Skull and Bones was only at Yale so it’s no big deal. Nearly a century old and has the US’s top elites, stole Geronimo’s skull, has brutal initiations with sexualized torture. Reportedly Bush the Lesser initiated the new pledges with burning coat hangers on naked skin. The 2004 Presidential election was between Bush Jr. and John Kerry, US would be ruled by a Skull & Bones guy either way, so saying it has no influence is 100% counterfactual.

    The question viz Michael Tracey is why does he virulently attack anyone for seeing anything suspicious about Epstein’s child-recruitment, Mossad and FBI “informant” links, blackmail ring, etc? Is he paid to throw dust in the eyes of those looking into it? Does he wish to participate? Is he being given honey(pots) for doing so? His cover story is that Epstein may have committed ONE case of pedophilia with a minor in his entire career, no more than that, and that all of the court cases against Epstein supporters like Harvard (gosh, it’s not just Yale), JP Morgan etc. were just greedy bitches (his misogyny is open) scamming the poor, wealthy victims. On DD they showed him the picture of Virginia Guiffre with Prince Andrew, and he spewed a lengthy defense that Epstein hired a lot of “20 year olds” who “stripped down to their underwear and gave massages”, no sex, no foul. Absurd.

    Tracey is a short, prematurely bald George Costanza knock-off, sweaty with a Nerd vibe from here to Texas. I doubt (given his rampant misogyny and desire to defend non-consensual sex with children) that he’s much of a hit with the ladies.

    Tracey and Matt Taibbi are now the most-disgraced and owned former “journalists” among a swamp of Bad Faith reporting from the beltway. Former Free Speech Warrior Taibbi (who won many honors and accolades over decades) is now reduced to an unpopular Right Wing Rage Bait podcast with the odious, elderly dry-drunk and fanatical Zionist Walter Kirn, writing encomiums to the failing idiot Bari Weiss, who in the pay of the Ellison family (the world’s richest) is tanking CBS, now actually ZBS, the Zionist Broadcast Network, after her failed “Free Press” Vanity podcast which drew a tiny audience, and her fake Texas “University” based on nostalgia for ancient, classical Empires. He called her “brilliant” and an amazing “entrepreneur”. I will admit that being promoted to CBS with her small, failing podcast bought out for $100 million is impressive, but we all know which puppet strings pulled that off.

    In conclusion, Yes, “We are the Baddies.” Well, our Elites are. Too much impunity means they stopped even hiding it. So the question is, can all the public’s disgust create any meaningful change? Clearly not at the moment, but something is building.

  11. Soredemos

    @Mark Level

    Bizarre comment, where you’re saying someone’s kids are ugly as if that’s an argument…

  12. elkern

    IMO, the real question is still “who has the Epstein Tapes”? (whatever – and mostly, whoever – he recorded from all those cameras)

    ‘Elite perverts’ is the surface story, and of course, it’s true, but Epstein’s ring wasn’t just a Rich Boys’ Sex Club.

    Part of the operation was about ensuring control over [parts of] the US Justice System (SDNY at least); Epstein (& Co?) had to be able to protect himself AND his clients from the occasional Honest Cop. But the tentacles extend way beyond that.

    I’m betting that Mossad has [most of] the Tapes.

  13. Ian Welsh

    Video is better than nothing, but Discourses is a long book and I encourage you to read it.

  14. cc

    If Epstein, who somehow already had a fake passport way back in 1982 when he was 28-29, was connected to Mossad, then isn’t this whole Epstein thing yet another mechanism of foreign Zionist control of the US plutocratic regime?

    How is that not the number 1 issue? So many of the recent events taking place in the US seem to relate to preserving that all-important foreign Zionist control over the US:

    – ICE deportations that started first and foremost with those involved in anti-genocide protests
    – Stephen Miller’s quota and goal of 1 million per year ICE deportations of Latinos/Arabs/Muslims (3,000 per day) would change US demographics to help preserve that hold
    – Seizure and transfer of TikTok USA to Larry Ellison’s Oracle as urgent concerns grew over young Americans, including young Jewish-Americans, rejecting Zionism, apartheid, and genocide
    – Assassination of the Kirk just weeks after he had started to publicly question Zionist influence over the US – highly problematic given his influence over young conservative Americans
    – Abrupt resignation of Marjorie Taylor Greene from her highly influential position in Congress, who had urged release of the Epstein files and criticized Zionist influence over the US
    – Sudden large increases in investigations and arrests in the UK and other Western countries to silence those critical of the genocide and the genocidal Zionist regime

    To what extent is what gets characterized as Trump/ICE fascism in the US actually a manifestation of Zionist fascism rising throughout the West?

    Because of constant attempts to conflate the two, it’s important to underline that Judaism is not Zionism, and many Jewish people have a principled stance against Zionism, apartheid, and genocide:

    Naomi Klein denounces “false idol” of Zionism at New York demonstration
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2PIhGl2Z4k

    Jill Stein speaks out against assault on pro-Palestine student protesters
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM3wNcHIfQM

    Are people focusing on Trump/ICE/Yale/Tracey/scandals/etc. while not paying attention to the real, larger, issue driving those? If its elites are compromised and controlled to this extent, does the US have sovereignty?

  15. Carborundum

    Where did I say that Skull and Bones or similar social groupings have no influence? To the contrary, my point (beyond simply correcting the original mis-statement of Skull and Bones being at Harvard rather than Yale) was that although pedophilia gets a lot of attention, it should be viewed as less significant than other elite network distortions. (Yes, pedophilia is devastating for the victims, but the number of people affected by the other predations is many orders of magnitude greater.)

  16. cc

    correction: “of the Kirk” should have been “of Charlie Kirk”

    And we could add to the list of recent news items that relate to reinforcing/fortifying Zionist control over the US:

    – Larry Ellison’s son David Ellison appointed Bari Weiss to head CBS News.
    – Larry and David Ellison, through Paramount/Skydance, are also trying to acquire Warner Bros.

    Is it like in the “Alien” movies, when a parasitic organism feels like their hold over a host is being threatened, they tighten and redouble their efforts to preserve their control over it?

  17. Feral Finster

    @Mark Level:
    What happened was that, to his credit, Taibbi defended free speech when the liberals and democrats were the censors.

    Naturally, that got MAGA hot and bothered. They adopted Taibbi as one of their own. Taibbi decided he liked it (and liked the subscription revenue), even when MAGA got the whip hand.

    When WE do it, it’s only self-defense, at worst a measured response to outrageous provocation.

    When they do it, The Boots Of Fascism Are On The March.

  18. Dan Kelly

    ‘Pedophilia’ is defined as an attraction to ‘prepubescent’ children.

    Biologically, puberty is a process that happens over a period of years and is highly variable at the individual level.

    The psychiatric institution – a nest of looney bins in its own right – the psychiatric institution allows to the age of thirteen for their ‘diagnosis’ of pedophilia.

    Most of the girls and women involved were ‘pubescent’ according to society’s current criteria.

    That said, Nick Bryant spoke to a psychiatrist who said she had been contacted by victims younger than thirteen.

    So, this is not only not ‘limited’ to pedophilia but in fact involves many more victims who were pubescent – and some adult victims as well.

    ‘it’s an edge case within much larger elite social networks, which have much larger societal, political and economic effects / dimensions.’

    ‘although pedophilia gets a lot of attention, it should be viewed as less significant than other elite network distortions. (Yes, pedophilia is devastating for the victims, but the number of people affected by the other predations is many orders of magnitude greater.)’

    This simply isn’t true.

    This isn’t just garden-variety pubescentphilia among some elites who are drunk on power.

    This is deeply structural and is used to create and maintain systems.

    It is integral as to why ‘the number of people affected by the other predations is many orders of magnitude greater.’

    None of this is new and none of it is unique to ‘the west.’

  19. Lars

    I wonder if this is partially why Mike Pence was so weird about only being around other women if “Mother” was present. He’s a Christian fundamentalist ninny, but perhaps he took his vows quite seriously and was propositioned as Governor of Indiana or as a Trump’s VP running mate. Perhaps a test was run at Mar-a-Lago?

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2018/mar/27/does-mike-pence-call-his-wife-mother/

  20. different clue

    Years-to-many-years ago, a Canadian journalist named Jeff Wells was also an active blogger. He had a blog called Rigorous Intuition, later renamed Rigorous Intuition 2.0, where he posted articles about this sort of thing and other sorts of things. His blog had a whole category called: ”

    Here is that category.
    The Military-Occult Complex, ritual abuse/mind control, and “High Weirdness”
    Jackson 5.0
    Life and Life Only
    “Grave Mysteries” (Part Two)
    What Lies Beneath
    “Grave Mysteries” (Part One)
    The gods must be crazy
    There Is No More Firmament
    “No man sees my face and lives”
    Full Spectral Dominance (Part Two)
    Solitary monsters
    Full Spectral Dominance (Part One)
    Space Cadets
    Bad Medicine (Part Two)
    Estimate of the Situation
    Bad Medicine (Part One)
    Down the Scole Hole
    Distractions, or something else?
    “I wish that hadn’t happened”
    Spirit of the Beehive
    “And your little dog, too”
    Correspondence and sanctuary (Part Two)
    Correspondence and sanctuary (Part One)
    The Fearless Vampire Killers
    Weird Tales
    Carlucci’s spellcheck
    The Higher Coincidence
    American Leviathan (Part Two)
    American Leviathan (Part One)
    Look out, kid
    Pimp My Scooter
    The Top of My Head
    Into the black
    If you go out in the woods
    Shadows and Fog
    It’s all in your mind
    Phantoms, Daemons and Finders
    “Birth pangs of a new order”
    “Before the apex stone is fitted”
    The Colour out of Space
    Bill Bennett and the Great White Brotherhood
    “You can’t go home again”
    “Did I just say that out loud?”
    What do kids know?
    On the job, on the square
    The Liminal State of the Nation
    Nine Angles of Separation
    Doom Days
    Seeing things, saying things
    Who’s screening who?
    The Mystery Man
    “liberate tutemae”
    It’s enough to make you paranoid
    Interview with Jackie McGauley (Part Two)
    MI5 and the Welsh paedophile ring
    How big is your rabbit hole?
    Interview with Jackie McGauley (Part One)
    Fireworks and Inaugurations
    Last exit to Ponchatoula
    Interview with Kathleen Sullivan (Part 4)
    The Firm
    Bless the beasts and children
    Far Away, So Close
    Don’t worry, it’s just the news
    “Hope you guess my name”
    America’s Dog Star Days
    Latter Day Sinners
    “A working class hero is something to be”
    A tale of two prophets
    Dunblane update: Police involved in paedophile ring
    Debunking and debugging
    A few good mind-controlled men?
    No time to think
    “Prophet Yahweh” stands and delivers?
    Gosch case implicates CIA, US officials: Iowa TV
    That which survives
    Who shall I say is calling?
    “A moment of weakness and temporary insanity”
    “No Way!” and “Yeah – so what?”
    Eye of Horus, Part One
    Dark horse and dead cattle
    “From beyond the stars”
    The sheep look up
    Welcome back to Atlanta
    Babyland
    The Black Lodge, Part Two
    The Black Lodge, Part One
    Walpurgisnacht
    The Candy Man Did
    Same as it ever was
    “Some people call me Maurice”
    “Knowing I live in a dark age
    Back to the Presidio
    “It’s all in the egg”
    Noreen Gosch: “If this is it, we’re in the final days.”
    What’s up is down. What isn’t, is.
    Don’t look now
    “It looks more like a war zone”
    Who done it?
    “She was always surprised they never found those bodies…”
    Henry: Portrait of a Bush supporter
    Is it the future yet?
    “This latest maniac”
    It’s all about “them”
    The Art of the Lab Room Floor
    The “Day of Declaration”
    The Banality of the Weird
    Interview with Kathleen Sullivan (Part Three)
    Interview with Kathleen Sullivan (Part Two)
    Jeff Gannon’s Inner Child?
    The Going Got Weird
    The Great Satan
    Interview with Kathleen Sullivan (Part One)
    Crazy Yes. But Crazy Enough to Be True?
    America’s Condition Greene
    Stirring the White House Honey Pot
    Hell, Frozen Over
    The Occult History of the National Security State
    Things to Come: the Merlin Project
    “Enter into Evil”
    From MindWar to FoxNews
    Dick Cheney’s Other Big Secret
    Why Do People Say such Terrible Things about the Bush Family?
    Miscellaneous
    RI Radio, and thanks
    Sad and Lonesome Day
    American allegory
    Shop now open
    Not exactly as illustrated
    In the summertime
    Forum update
    Discussion board now open
    An appeal
    “You poor take courage, you rich take care”
    The Smoking Scalp?
    Greetings, Military Industrialists
    Unholy Mess Brewing on the Temple Mount
    Whose Freedom Is It, Anyway?
    Things to Come
    The AWOL Opposition
    Interview
    Sun Myung Moon
    Brother’s Love’s Travelling Salvation Show
    Carrying Moon’s Water
    Full Moon
    Heavenly Deception
    The Life and Moonie Times of George HW Bush
    The “War on Terror”
    Why They Fight
    The Game of Terror
    The steam is turned on
    There’s a Law
    Pearl of great price
    One of These Things Is Not Like the Other
    Dirty Job, Clean Hands
    Cheerleader of the Free World
    Anschluss Creep
    Accidentally Like a Martyr
    Sounds like “Terror”
    Freedom’s Just Another Word for “Oil”
    MI5 Asset in Gitmo?
    “The Board Is Set, the Pieces Are Moving”
    America: All Science, No Fiction
    You Couldn’t Make this Stuff Up. But Someone Does.
    Believe Nothing
    The Skinny on Osama
    The Next Attack
    Putin Antes Up
    Venezuela
    A multitude of sins
    Whose hemisphere is it anyway?
    Presidente Quioxte
    Strike a Blow Against the Empire
    Exceptional Hypocrisy
    “Impunity Until When?”

    Here is a link to one of those articles, called ” Pimp My Scooter”.
    https://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/10/pimp-my-scooter.html

  21. Jan Wiklund

    On the other hand, the world must also be full of wannabees who are not the slightest attracted by sex with underaged, who could use the knonwledge as a threat, and a way of making their own carreer.

    All tricks work both ways.

  22. PM

    I know this is a small thing, but after seeing the glaring silence by the American Left on the ever-deepening evidence of Chomsky & Epstein’s friendship and high regard for each other after Epstein’s conviction as a sex offender (where is Democracy Now? Mother Jones? The brash young podcasters? Greg Grandin in the Nation basically said “no biggie, Epstein’s cool” a couple of months ago) and the outright defenses of Chomsky and downplaying of Epstein’s crimes from Aaron Mate, Nathan Robinson, Matt Taibbi and others, I’m grateful that at least one old-time leftie blogger still has the moral clarity to see that pimping underage girls to the world’s elite isn’t OK.

    Thank you.

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