The horizon is not so far as we can see, but as far as we can imagine

Trump Is Running the Standard Purge and Control Playbook To Install Decline

Some years ago I wrote an article about how to run a real left wing government.

Seven Rules for running a real left-wing government

Of course, it was really a guide for how to change the ruling ideology of a society. Because, yes, elites, apparatchniks and what as might be called a deep state state exist. These aren’t all the same thing. There is plenty of private support for whatever the status quo is, especially at the highest levels, since whatever the ideology is, it put them in charge and benefited them. There are also a lot of mid level enforcers, bureaucrats (both private and public) and professionals who benefit from the status quo.

Anyway, two of the seven rules were specific to the problem of running a left wing government in a neoliberal world (it was 2016.) But here are the other five

  • Your First Act Must Be a Media Law
  • Take Control of the Banking Sector
  • Who Is Your Administrative Class?
  • Take Control of Distribution and Utilities
  • Reduce Your Vulnerability to the World Trade System

Control the Media: Now the wording isn’t always the best, but Trump has been on a constant attack against the media. He’s changed who is allowed to be part of the White House press pool and he’s made the media pay blackmail money. He’s now talking about removing NBC and ABC’s licenses. He may, he may not, but the threat makes them change.

Take Control of the Banking Sector: for the first time in its history, a Federal Reserve governor has been fired the President has always had this authority in theory (except over the Chair), but has never used it in practice. Ironically I once advised Obama to use this power to stop the Fed bailouts in 2009. Control over the banking sector is really control over the permission system: whoever is given money or the ability to create money can do things. Once you have your hands on the money-artery, nothing significant can happen without your permission.

Who is Your Administrative class: All systems have a class of people which run the bureaucracies. We have come to know ours as the PMC. Trump is replacing them, firing them in huge piles, and replacing them with right wing, often religious, fanatics. These are people who will give him his military parade (denied in his first term), who will extradite his enemies, who will break laws for him knowing that the Supreme Court (carefully packed during decades of preparation for this moment) will make what they do legal, and that in any case, the enforcer class is under Trump’s control.

Indeed, Trump has been purging the enforcer class and replacing them with people who would not have been considered qualified by the previous system. This is true of the military, the FBI and indeed of all the three letter agencies. Since ICE are his loyal brownshirts, needing no purging, they are being massively enlarged and given far greater powers.

Reduce vulnerability to the World Trade System: Let’s state this simply: the US had been losing the trade game badly for about fifteen years. China was coming on hard, Africa is lost, South America is almost lost, Russia is no longer complacent and America has lost the lead in over 80% of technologies. It can’t build ships, its planes fall out of the sky, most electronics are made elsewhere, it can’t even make magnets. It’s a joke.

So Trump is creating a two bloc system, there’s the US and its vassals (calling them allies amounts to lying) Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and South Korea. On the other side China, Russia, Iran, and their friends, which includes most of Africa and Asia and a good chunk of South America.

The US has slapped 100% tariffs on Chinese EVs, and tariffs on almost everyone else. Why? Well, simply enough, the US can’t compete. If there is free trade, or anything approximating it, the US’s economy will be further cannibalized. Since they can’t sell overseas, except for chips, food and a few other goods, it’s time to stop competing. The US can’t win, so it’s not going to play.

The problem, of course, is that unless the US takes this time behind trade barriers to become competitive, it’ll just keep falling behind, and there’s only so much it can cannibalize its vassals. Given the massive slashing of research and universities, with no sign of a new system to replace them, it’s clear that the US has chosen semi-permanent decline.

Trump is Changing the US ruling ideology to Controlled un-development

It’s still about making the rich richer, but Trump’s choice is controlled decline. The US and the West will fall further and further behind, living conditions will get worse and worse, but the rich will become relatively richer in relation to everyone else in society. Think India in the post-war period. Fantastically wealthy elites, everyone else is a peon. Oh, there’s lots of ruin in countries, but this is the direction of the arrow and it only changes if a different ideology takes over.

Competition in the US between all groups will become far more savage, because there is no net. You get you hands on a position which commands resources or you become homeless or techno-peasant.

The vassals, who mostly have social welfare systems, will be forced to liquidate them, buy US military goods (which are useless against the US, given the software driven nature of them) and sell off all their public goods to continue the enrichment of elites. Any who try to avoid this fate will be coerced as necessary, first by their own internal elites.

This is the future in America and its allies. The only way to avoid it is to figure out how to defect.

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30 Comments

  1. someofparts

    Never thought I would feel this good about choosing not to have children.

  2. GrimJim

    I’d love to see your analysis on the status on the current position and future of the Tech-Bros and their Technocracy in Trumpistan. They will obviously be needed for the Panopticon, but how will their full on Corporatist policies be adopted and enacted by the Trump Regime, and will they be fit into the Regime or will they be discarded once used (like Musk has been).

  3. NL

    Surprisingly, his biggest achievement so far is not mentioned. His biggest achievement has been to impose one of the largest taxes on the population — the consumption tax (the blanket imposition indicates this has nothing to with the industry). The new tax is completely arbitrary and at the whims of the so-called president not only to impose the tax but also to selectively exempt goods from this tax — a corruption and population exploitation paradise — tax what common people buy, exempt what the wealthy buy, collect ‘donations’ to exempt goods. Are private money and an opaque banking system unresponsive to the citizenry good things? Maybe it would be good to do away with the FED independence — although, removing the so-called FED independence will do nothing to the fact that our money are private and are an means of wealth transfer to the few. The media has always been controlled — nothing new there.

    “It’s still about making the rich richer, but Trump’s choice is controlled decline.” — First of all, why should we expect anything different? In a way it is not even about making rich richer, it is about maintaining their lifestyle. Children, wives and mistresses cost a lot and do not bring income. When you love your children, wives and mistresses, will you send them out there in the hell of the labor market to work? — you will provide them with a investment income, charity, foundation, trust fund, etc.

    Second, this is not Trump’s choice, this is the choice of the whole ruling group (which as I argued in a different post, may have already evolved to a single ruling family/clan) for a very long time. Even more broadly, this is our way of life — this is our Volksgeist — this is what we are. Trump is as American as America can be. The first settlers were naturally broadly equal in wealth. But already Winthrop preached inequality as a common good instilled by God to fight evil.

    Third, there is no other way. The president and the wealthy have a lot of children, serial wives, mistresses, sugar babies, houses, servants, etc and constantly need money to maintain the lifestyle. But the peasants have been squeezed dry and no longer even reproduce. As I argue in a different post, engineering requires a huge amount of mental effort, a proper educational system with care for human capital. Engineers are smart and threatening. No one has time for this generational investment, and everyone needs money now. And here comes the consumption tax — let’s squeeze the peasants a bit more, an attack on the technocrats (academia, medicine, gov officials) to push their income down, crypto shenanigans, lower interest rates. Will the situation get worse? — Yes, it will…

  4. Revelo

    >Think India

    Yes, think about and study India carefully, and not just because USA/Canada has imported huge numbers of south Asian immigrants in recent years. India does indeed show the way forwards. Caste system where birth family determines place in social hierarchy, with limited opportunity to switch castes. Nepotism. Incompetent exploitative elite. Ethnic groups and castes pitted against one another by elite to divide and thus more easily control society. Stagnant economy. Senseless wars (India vs Pakistan/China/Myanmar, USA vs Mexico, Haiti, perhaps Canada and Greenland) to distract from domestic problems. Massive government corruption (license raj). Etc.

  5. canopy

    The example of India makes sense in some ways, but I would be more inclined to see the US as splintering apart into regions. A book called Nine Nations of North America, published in 1981, offered a breakdown of the various parts of the country that are cohesive in terms of demographics and geography. Working from the template sketched out in that book, it might be that parts of the country would break away as independent principalities, if the federal government becomes too weak to prevent it and too broke to provide even the most basic services.

    The Pacific Northwest, the Great Lakes states and New England, were they independent, might benefit more from affiliation with Canada that from ties to the government in Washington. Florida might feel more at home as part of a Caribbean federation, while the southwestern states might prefer to become part of Mexico if that country joins BRICS and becomes more prosperous than the US. States in the south, the midwest and those on the mid-Atlantic coast could be all that remain of the former US, and would IMO resemble South American banana republics more than India, which is as old as China and seems to have a distinct and extremely complex history unique to itself.

  6. Daniel A Lynch

    I can’t disagree with Ian’s assessment, but at the same time I believe the Trump power grab is made possible not due to Trump being clever or popular or the next Hitler, but due to the lack of a credible opposition.

    The West is at a crossroads — neoliberalism has failed, the West has lost the Cold War, China and Russia are rising, Covid hasn’t gone away, climate change is looming, and fake liberal parties like the Democrats are like deer in the headlights. So Trump comes along and claims he has solutions (he doesn’t), while deer-in-the-headlights Democrats campaign on “vote for us if you want to maintain the status quo.”

    Trump won’t live forever, and his policies seem set to screw things up, so D’s may well win the next election cycle or two, but D’s won’t fix anything, so it’s hard to see anything good happening in the near future. Add climate change and stir.

  7. someofparts

    In a segment on the Democrats, the folks at Breaking Points reported that as younger voters register, they are signing on as Independents, unwilling to commit to the Republicans or the Democrats. It sounds like the Democrats as a party will end when the full boomer cohort finishes dying off.

  8. ibaien

    i think the proper point of comparison will be brazil – like them, we’re a large and diverse country with grossly unequal income and a strongly religious working / lower class. i expect that after trump finishes the task of discrediting all our norms and civic institutions we’ll just enter into an era of whipsawing back and forth between broadly ‘socialist’ and ‘fascist’ parties, both of which will spend their political capital settling scores from the previous administration. meanwhile it’ll be paramilitaries on street corners with long guns, gated communities, favelas, and a general slide into post-affluence.

    all that being said, i love brazil. são paulo might be my favorite world city; amazingly diverse, great food and museums, beautiful and kind people, and a staggeringly decrepit old downtown core. and, noronha is the prettiest island in the world if you can handle the nantucket prices. so perhaps our american future too will be “a nice place to visit but i sure wouldn’t want to live there”…

  9. StewartM

    Daniel Lynch

    I can’t disagree with Ian’s assessment, but at the same time I believe the Trump power grab is made possible not due to Trump being clever or popular or the next Hitler, but due to the lack of a credible opposition.

    Hitler wasn’t any more popular than Trump–maybe even less so. He wasn’t that clever (though he was probably better-informed than Trump, despite Trump having gone to UPenn (says something about our “elite” universities, eh?).

    Hitler got power the same way Trump did–he had TONS of help. Like Trump, he committed crimes in the open, and despite Hitler’s judges being criticized at the time by the world press for “not considering treason a serious offense” Hitler actually did spend time in jail. Trump did not. There is no way that Trump could have begun to write Project 2025 and know all the weak points of US governance, he’s too stupid.

    I think that this is the end result of movement conservatism, which was all about trusting capitalism (not markets, despite their verbiage) more than democracy. You end democracy and run the country like a corporation. And like a corporation (and all fascist regimes seem to do this) you lie not only to everyone else, you lie to yourself. You lie internally. One of the problems with WWII historiography is the fact that the Germans appeared to have gamed the numbers, both exaggerating the damage they inflicted on opponents while hiding or minimizing their true losses. They also overestimated the power of their weaponry above what any Allied tests showed it could do.

    Ian Welsh

    Competition in the US between all groups will become far more savage, because there is no net. You get you hands on a position which commands resources or you become homeless or techno-peasant.

    As I wrote earlier, MAGA will then be diverted to turn their anger against the new “shiny”–not against the people in top and Trump himself, oh no. They’ll be incited to turn against the “kulaks”, those among them that have a little due to the result of their own labor. Remember how their rage was turned against government employees who had very median pay but better benefits?

    The end result of this Randian form of fascism (plus Christo elements) is that the very people who exhibited real competence, the people that Rand supposedly extolled, will be destroyed while incompetent “ubermenschen” capitalist idiots who destroyed more than they built are elevated to the top positions. Already a running joke in the corporate world was that the higher the food chain you go up, you find less knowledge and less expertise and also less real work being done.

    As I said, MAGA rule is akin to the scene in the Poseidon Adventure movie, where the protagonists meet a group walking steadfastly DOWNWARD through the capsized ship to their doom, and they “know they’re right” and can’t be talked out of it.

  10. mago

    The idea of the US splintering into regional autonomous districts has been around for a while and makes some superficial sense, but unless there’s a federal military mutiny I don’t see it happening. The will to organize such a movement also seems feeble.

    However, there’s a fairly long standing movement in Eastern Oregon to secede and merge with Idaho. I suppose it’s possible, although the legalities are unclear to me.

    On the other hand the inter mountain West is full of armed and angry mouth breathers with strong agendas so maybe in the event of societal collapse they won’t need no stinking laws, except for the new ones that will inevitably follow.

    I don’t know what’s coming; I never foresaw where we are now. But as NL and others have noted, it will get worse. Defect if able.

  11. MarkD

    This is the future in America and its allies. The only way to avoid it is to figure out how to defect.

    Nice thought, but if you’ve lived your entire life in the US there really isn’t anywhere to go.

  12. Feral Finster

    I have long said that this “Ian Welsh” character’s “Seven Rules For Running a Left Wing Government” apply to any government outside the current Overton Window.

    I suppose there is less rending of garments and gnashing of teeth over the right, because the right does not fundamentally question private property in the same way.

  13. Purple Library Guy

    One thing about decline under an oligarchy . . . decline means everything doesn’t work as well. All the systems rot. Eventually, that includes the propaganda system. At a certain point, things aren’t working well enough for the rulers to successfully tell the people what to think. And at the same time, the propaganda system would have to be BETTER to be effective, because the contrast between reality and what you’re supposed to believe gets sharper and harsher. I think that’s one reason there’s much more successful left wing politics in Latin America than in the wealthy world.

    If anything, the rise of fascism is a symptom of this already happening. It signifies that the range of things the propaganda system can convince people of is narrowing. In better times, propaganda can convince people the status quo is pretty much the best of all possible worlds. Even if it clearly isn’t, as long as it’s not too bad for most people, consent can be manufactured. Fascism arrives when the system can no longer convince that everything is OK, and has to fall back on “OK, yes, something’s wrong, be angry, BUT the thing that’s wrong is those powerless people over there, not the system or the powerful”.

    That said, while this suggests fascist oligarchy will be unstable, and usually it is . . . Franco held power until he died of old age, so it’s often not nearly as unstable as we would like it to be.

  14. cc

    The root of the problem is the plutocracy of the West. As former US president Jimmy Carter had correctly recognized and pointed out over a decade ago already, “America has no functioning democracy” and the US is an “oligarchy with unlimited political bribery”. It’s only gotten worse and more blatant since.

    The resulting thorough corruption of democracy and capitalism, and everything else by extension, is what ensures this long decline that started before Trump, though he’s making it more obvious for the world to see.

    A good article from Oliver Hua today relates to Ian’s article “China is a Rich Society. No Western Country Is” from last week, but also very much relates to this one (and the ones in between.)

    https://huabinoliver.substack.com/p/peter-thiel-and-vladimir-ilyich-lenin

  15. different clue

    . . . ” The Pacific Northwest, the Great Lakes states and New England, were they independent, might benefit more from affiliation with Canada that from ties to the government in Washington. ” . . .

    One wonders whether Canada would want these regions to be affiliated with Canada, given that these regions would be full of Americans. Canada might well want to observe their cultural-political behavior first.

  16. different clue

    Here is an article about the latest Trump action in this playbook, called: ” Trump orders Hegseth to form National Guard unit in each state to combat protests | Order also calls for the creation of an online vigilante portal to be deputized for the purpose. ”

    Here is the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1n1nase/trump_orders_hegseth_to_form_national_guard_unit/

    People who are fond of saying . . . ” Trump . . . Harris . . . what difference would it have made anyway . . . ” might well wonder whether a President Harris would be taking this particular step. Or some of the other particular steps.

  17. GrimJim

    I don’t think he’s actually *planning* decline so much as *reacting* to the current trends in a way to maximize looting by himself, his family, his allies, and mostly coincidentally (except when bribes have been proffered), other wealthy elites.

    He and his people have no actual idea how any sort of macro systems work, so they cannot “plan” on decline. It is more like innate huckster cunning in knowing how to take the last two bits the marks have.

    The “planning” they have is the Project 2025 material, which is mostly dedicated to installing a Christofascist Theocratic Tyranny (also maximizing the wealth of the already wealthy of the “right kind” of people) without regard to any other developments or concerns.

    That all these plans somehow mesh with decline is really coincidental.

  18. Richard Holsworth

    He’s surrounded himself with Accelerationists.

    “The manic presidency of Donald Trump has been seen as the first mainstream manifestation of an accelerationist politics.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/11/accelerationism-how-a-fringe-
    philosophy-predicted-the-future-we-live-in

    Further reading:
    “Introduction to Accelerationism” in “No Speed Limit”
    https://manifold.umn.edu/read/no-speed-limit/section/1b09b41b-002e-4b2d-ade0-b7ee76e5e9cc

  19. different clue

    Trump himself is not smart enough to do much of this in detail. The right wing fascist communities which came together over decades to build to this takeover-from-within are giving Trump these instructions on what to do. They are letting him think that he thought of it all.

    Here’s a couple of captioned images which illustrate aspects of that problem.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/WorkReform/comments/1n2d2ye/its_not_just_trump_its_our_broken_system/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueskySkeets/comments/1n2fx67/he_probably_didnt/

    ( On the other hand, I am confident that Trump was smart enough to think of this next thing all by himself. ” Trump Says Obama and Biden ‘Fabricated’ Epstein Files to Take Him Down at the Ballot Box” link here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFilterNews/comments/1n29m2o/trump_says_obama_and_biden_fabricated_epstein/ )

    One of Trump’s unique talents is to get people to fall in love with the solid gold toilet he sits on and worship what he drops into it. Every person who rolls around in the dogtrump gets back up covered in dogtrump for the rest of their lives. But people continue diving into the dogtrump and rolling around in it. Tulsi Gabbard really surprised me in that regard.

  20. StewartM

    Daniel Lynch

    Also, in the lack of a “credible opposition”, there’s a parallel with Hitler’s rise to power there too. Only the SPD (Socialist Party) consistently opposed the Nazis. The KPD (Communist Party), operating on orders from Moscow, made accelerations arguments about Hitler failing and ushering in some workers’ revolt resulting in the overthrow of capitalism (how’d that work out for them? They were the first to go to the camps).

    The Rightist parties were fine with Hitler, even though he wasn’t their first choice. The centrist parties didn’t like Hitler, but he was preferable to the hated “Reds” (the SPD, which was pretty constitutional and moderate in practice at the time). So basically, the SPD, which composed about 25 % of the German electorate, was somehow supposed to stop a movement what the other 75 % of the electorate either endorsed, or were more-or-less okay with.

    That is exactly analogous to Trump. He’s actually not that popular. I’ve been told that even Evangelicals see through the man, they know he’s everything they’re against, but they tell themselves and each other that “he’s doing God’s work”. Ditto with the corporate conservatives and libertarian-leaning types. Moreover like Hitler, a key Trump advantage is that none of his followers actually believe that what he says he’s going to do he will actually do. Nebraska farmers didn’t believe he would actually deport the workforce they depend on. Corporate types didn’t believe the tariffs, nor that Congress would allow Trump to willy-nilly do this arbitrarily. Trump voters married to or dating immigrants believed that only the “criminal” immigrants would be deported, not their spouses.

    In John Toland’s Adolf Hitler biography, he recounts a tale of an 11-year old son of a chief Nazi official exciting telling one of his classmates about the Nazi election victory “We’ve won!!” His classmate turned towards him and weakly smiled, “I’m happy for you”. His classmate was Jewish.

    Do you think that 11-year old boy wanted to send his schoolmate to a death camp? Or even his father did? (As you find out in the biography, “no”). But they somehow deluded themselves into thinking that Hitler “really didn’t mean” all the things he said. That was a common theme in German literature postwar, such as Max Frisch’s “Biedemann and the Firebugs” where the arsonists openly tell everyone that they’re going to burn down the whole town, and stock flammables in order to do it, and the “good citizens” of the town tell themselves and each other how it won’t happen and in fact provide housing and support for the arsonists.

  21. NL, please link to the post you reference here “Second, this is not Trump’s choice, this is the choice of the whole ruling group (which as I argued in a different post, may have already evolved to a single ruling family/clan”
    thanks

  22. rkka

    Stewart M:

    “ The Rightist parties were fine with Hitler, even though he wasn’t their first choice. The centrist parties didn’t like Hitler, but he was preferable to the hated “Reds” (the SPD, which was pretty constitutional and moderate in practice at the time). So basically, the SPD, which composed about 25 % of the German electorate, was somehow supposed to stop a movement what the other 75 % of the electorate either endorsed, or were more-or-less okay with.”

    Even if the Social Dems & the Commies had cooperated, all that would have actually have done is sent the Zentrum and every other element of the German political spectrum screaming into the arms of the Nazis, the instant that happened. Adolf’s “Enabling Act” coalition would have formed even earlier.

  23. different clue

    I just saw this reposted from the Gavin Newsom Press Office on the EhBuddyHoser subreddit. I think EhBuddyHoser gets the joke and gets what Gavin Newsom is doing here.

    Retitled by the subreddit . . . ” You heard him, folks. Get this man a plane! ” Link here:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/EhBuddyHoser/comments/1n3ks9g/you_heard_him_folks_get_this_man_a_plane/

  24. different clue

    There are concentrated centers of power and there are diffuse edges of power. The various Social Media platforms, especially their video-cellphone features, are still a diffuse edge of power.

    As an example, I will offer a seemingly unrelated and apolitical event which somebody recorded on video cellphone and then uploaded to reddit. It is titled: ” A man grabs Kamil Majchrzak’s hat that the player wanted to give to a kid. Then quickly hides it in his wifes bag ” Here is the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/1n34tke/a_man_grabs_kamil_majchrzaks_hat_that_the_player/

    That nasty man’s face may be seen clearly enough on this video that people who know him may recognized him from the video. Same for his wife. Somebody who recognizes them from this video and disapproves of what they did could dox this couple and reveal all their personal and contact information to the whole wide world. Thousands or hundreds of thousands of people could reach out and touch them and keep touching them until he gives the hat back. If people did that and it worked, that would reveal the power of Social VideoMedia in a way impossible to deny.

    Some people who never thought about it before may begin to wonder whether this could work in politics?

  25. different clue

    Well, it looks like the process of making that hat-stealer begin to pay has begun. Here is an article titled: ” Polish CEO’s company review bombed after stealing hat from a child at tennis game ” Here is the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1n4fs07/polish_ceos_company_review_bombed_after_stealing/

    He seems like the kind of person who will never ever give back the hat. But the fact that the Internet Community could find and reveal this much about him this fast indicates that it could be possible to destroy his life and his future in revenge for him being what he is. Would it be possible to dox every aspect of his physical existence and Massively Denial-Of-Service attack every digital address, portal, etc. that he has?
    Would it be possible to bring his company to the brink of extinction and then over that brink if it does not fire him? Would it then be possible to trace him to every company he tries to flee to and make him unemployable anywhere? Would it be possible to make him homeless and cause him to freeze and starve to death under a bridge?

    That all seems wildly disproportionate for “stealing a hat”. But this is bigger than “stealing a hat”. This is about seeing whether the internet can be used as a battlefield and a kill-box by the lower class against a targettable upper class figure. If Massive Retaliation can be shown to work in this case, it may give people the heart to try it against more dangerous targets and situations where the survival stakes are higher.

  26. different clue

    Oooo! Oooo! Here is another article on the same subject, giving us the name of the Hat Stealer.
    ” US Open uproar: Polish millionaire Piotr Szczerek vanishes from social media after snatching child’s signed hat ”
    https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/comments/1n4rsdp/us_open_uproar_polish_millionaire_piotr_szczerek/

    If this guy’s life can be turned into ‘dead meat’ for the ‘vultures and hyaenas to pick at’ ,
    such a successful internet revenge test-run operation could be used as a starting point for similar operations against more highly dangerous public-enemy persons, companies, etc.

  27. different clue

    Well, what do you know . . . yet another article about Mr. Hat Stealer. ” Piotr Szczerek, the Polish Millionare that stole a signed cap from a kid at a tennis game ”
    https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1n4pizh/piotr_szczerek_the_polish_millionare_that_stole_a/

    A comment in this article’s thread claims that the tennis-game-winner looked up the kid and gave him another hat. Does that mean its all settled now? From the kid’s point of view, maybe. But from society’s point of view?

    People have noted that modern society does not seem to have a way to block the progress-to-power of psychopath-holes. Or delete them once they are in visible power. But if this person can be deleted by an unrelenting internet facilitated and delivered attack forcefield-matrix, then it becomes a demostration of how at least one psychopath-hole got deleted by internetters and an inspiration to try it again against other self-presenting targets of opportunity, and then against carefully selected targets of real value and danger.

  28. different clue

    And here is the website of that Hat Stealer’s company where he is CEO at. The comment in yet another article’s thread said: ” Here’s his company’s address. Internet, do your magic!”
    https://www.drogbruk.pl/kontakt/

    and remember, this is an opportunity to see whether the “lower class internet” can be used to destroy an Upper Class Target.

  29. different clue

    Oh look . . . Mr. Szczerek feels forced into delivering a Nixonian non-apology apology.
    “Piotr Szczerek has just issued an official apology”
    https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1n5nv7s/piotr_szczerek_has_just_issued_an_official_apology/

    As I read the discussion of this entry, people seem as unimpressed as I am. Will ” the internet” decide this person needs deleting from public society and public power? I hope so but that is for others to decide. Still, this little demonstration of the internet’s power is heartening so far.

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