The horizon is not so far as we can see, but as far as we can imagine

Pokrovsk Has Fallen, Now What?

~by Sean Paul Kelley

With the encirclement of the Pokrovsk-Myrnohrad pocket by Russia now complete, it is only days, a week or two at most, until mopping up operations are complete. This is an indisputable Russian victory, but don’t expect the war to change much. Russia’s strategy of attrition is about incremental gains that create unsustainable enemy losses, not the acquisition of territory. A fact that Western, especially retired American generals consistently get wrong. They expect the Russians to fight like Americans. That’s a terrible assumption to make.

On June 30 of this year I wrote that Russia was beginning its advance on Pokrovsk in earnest.  Now, a lot of Western commentators, like Gen. Keane, have made the claim in the legacy media, along with other retired US generals, that the Russian’s have been bogged down in and around the Pokrovsk area for a year and only have 30-something kilometers to show for their efforts. This is why I cite the above link about the start of Russia’s encirclement of Pokrovsk. American generals obsesses about big red arrows on maps, rapid armor advances taking territory, breakthroughs while Russia’s attrition of Ukrainian soldiers massively degrades the Ukraine’s ability to prosecute the war. US generals, however, display staggering amounts of hypocrisy in discussions about Russia’s massive and successful strategic bombing campaign. Those selfsame generals who cheered American Shock and Awe war porn that dominated the news coming out of places like Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. Funny how they now label the same strategy, employed now by evil Russia, as war crimes and focus on Russia’s killing of civilians, which the Russians are studiously trying to avoid and largely succeeding. But I digress.

American generals, think tankers and media personalities are ignorant, be it vincible ignorance or supererogatory, of what a strategy of attrition really is and what it looks like. Here’s the best definition I’ve got for you: using military power to gradually degrade an opponents military resources, i.e. killing as many of your adversary’s soldiers and wrecking as much of his kit as possible and/or breaking his will to fight. Nowhere in the generally accepted definition of attritional warfare does it say a word about occupying as much land as possible. That comes later. Much later.

With Pokrovsk surrounded what should we expect from the Russians? The landscape west of Pokrovsk is mostly open fields for many, many kilometers, with few tree lines, villages or ravines for Russian forces to utilize for an effective defense against the Ukraine’s drones; hardly an ideal landscape for attritional warfare. In fact, with the Ukraine’s ability to manufacture drones still intact it would be a killing field, littered with Russian armor, APCs, infantrymen and anything else the Russians might send into the open.

Make no mistake, the Russians are going to have to march across the landscape west of Pokrovsk at some point, but I posit the following near-term moves by the Russians. I’ll follow up with some developments I expect later in 2026.

First, Russia will continue encircling other salients, or cauldrons as the Russians prefer to call them, they appear to be enveloping, like the Kupyansk-Senkove salient or the potential envelopment of Konstantinivka. These areas offer excellent defensive positions and landscapes for Russia’s small-teams based attritional style of attack along the line of contact. It begins with artillery and/or missile bombardment, small teams then attack and destroy Ukrainian positions, kill or capture soldiers, retreat, then let the Ukrainians return. Rinse and repeat with drone coverage dominating overhead and you’ve got a style of war that chews up time like Andre the Giant hoovered up food at all you can eat buffets. It’s efficacy is not in doubt so long as you understand Russian strategy. If you’re ignorant of it, well, then you are expecting a big armored break-out after Pokrovsk, which won’t happen, because that’s not how Russia is conducting this war.

Second, Russia will consolidate its gains in and around Pokrovsk, after the Ukrainian soldiers in the pocket are killed or surrender. For some time after I foresee Russia utilization of tactical defense within an offensive framework, much like what American generals called the strategic defensive during our Civil War. In essence, at first they’ll capture positions, then dare the Ukrainians to take them back by appearing weak, digging in, rotating out tired soldiers, and firming up logistics. Subsequent Ukrainian attacks lead to mounting casualties. Then do it again.

In the context of capturing Pokrovsk, Russia will continue targeting the Ukraine’s industrial base, especially drone manufacturing sites. And it will hammer the nearby cities of Kramatorsk and Slovyansk with drones, missiles and FAB glide bombs, but it will be some time until Russian ground forces are within reach of mounting an attack on either city. Much will also depend on how well the Ukraine’s armed forces perform.

In war your opponent gets a vote on whether you succeed or not. Will the Ukraine’s armed forces hold up or might we see a general collapse in 2026? The Ukraine is now engaged in the widespread press ganging of men to fight on the front, reports this story at Responsible Statecraft. Some of the men press-ganged into service have reportedly died from blunt-force trauma, after beatings with iron bars and one young man died from injuries sustained attempting to jump out of the vehicle he’d been forced into. Most of the ‘busificaiton’ as it is euphemistically called has taken place in 2025 and thousands of such videos can be found here, proof that the Ukraine’s manpower shortages are growing to crisis levels. Such activities by Ukrainian recruiters also bodes ill for the armed forces, and adjacently indicative of the efficacy of Russia’s strategy of attritional warfare. Although press-ganging is not something Russia directly influences, it’s a clear symptom of the unsustainably large amounts of casualties the Ukraine has and continues to sustain.

In the near-term expect the war on the ground to continue as it has since 2023. Russia will grind it out, slowly and patiently. I always find it laughable when commentators claim that hardliners in the Kremlin are chomping at the bit for Putin to launch a massive offensive. This is stupid, Western group-think. Why is it so hard to understand that Russians are naturally endowed with a deep well of patience to draw upon? Especially Putin. That is not to say there will be no fireworks in the near future. But they will be arriving from a different direction than Russian soldiers will. They will come from above.

A near-term imperative for Russian forces is a way to achieve drone dominance along the line of contact. Russia has, by and large, achieved a hybrid-kind of air superiority. This has largely been achieved by its manufacturing prowess, producing, according to some sources, nearly a thousand Geran-2 drones a month. One report dated this September describes a new jet-powered version, the Geran-3, that is operational, largely resistant to electronic warfare and can be fitted with a 90 kilo thermobaric warhead, making them extremely lethal, inexpensive and plentiful. Russia also manufactures and utilizes on a daily basis hundreds of Gerbera decoy drones. By using the Geran-2 and 3s in conjunction with Gerbera decoys and higher value missiles like the Iskander and the hypersonic Kinzhal the Ukraine’s ability to mount anything approaching an effective air defense is nullified.

Achieving drone superiority over the line of contact is another matter altogether. The Ukraine can still manufacture enough FPV drones to give the Russians pause, forcing their continued use of small-teams to attack, destroy and then retreat. But, the Russian’s are innovating. For example, there are recent reports of the deployment of a mother-ship drone with two FPV drones attached with fiber optic cables. The mother ship drone flies at altitudes above the FPV’s alleged EW bubble and by connecting its two FPV drones via fiber optic cables achieves complete EW avoidance. While not a game changer, widespread deployment of such drones would make the war that much more difficult for the Ukraine to prosecute effectively.

Pokrovsk is a major victory for Russia, a significant morale booster for the troops and those on the home front and proves the efficacy of Russia’s strategy of attrition. But don’t expect much to change after Pokrovsk. It’s a loss for the Ukraine. The question, how big of a loss? How many troops died or will be captured once the pocket is completely mopped up remains the most important variable of the battle; how badly will it effect the Ukrainian armed forces morale is what bears watching, by Putin and Zelensky alike.

 

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25 Comments

  1. Tallifer

    For a counter argument and analysis, please read Phillips O’Brien’s substack article: https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/weekend-update-157-the-battle-of

    Basically he says Pokrovsk is not a strategic linchpin for further Russian gains; that Russian losses have far outstripped Ukrainian and therefore the Ukrainians successfully used the battle as a killing zone; and that the Ukrainians have been right to focus on technology and tactics rather than manpower.

    Furthermore, here is an article based on reports from Telegram and ISW which asseets that the Ukrainian defense is still doing quite well. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/11/6/2352136/-ADAPTIVE-INDOMITABLE-UKRAINE-Can-Spot-and-Decimate-Russian-Assault-Columns-Even-in-Dense-Fog

  2. Eric Anderson

    Now, Sean. Do the Western Generals really believe this?
    Or, is it just more propaganda to kept the domestics mollified?

    The west doesn’t do war anymore, in any real sense. It doesn’t do politics. It doesn’t do science. It does performance art. Madison Ave. and Hollywood — that’s what we do.

    Capitalism, certainly of the neoliberal variety, can’t exist w/o creating superfluous needs through emotional manipulation. See Galbraith.

    Lying, it turns out, gives better short term returns than honest assessments of the future human condition. And when the bezzle pops, capital just moves to the next lie. See Sam Altman.

  3. marku

    It certainly complicates UKR logistics. It was a major rail hub, tho I suppose they have been creating alternative (tho less efficient) corridors since Pokrovsk’s fate has been sealed for almost months now.

    Good point abut not advancing over the open plains. The Russian army seems to always advance under cover, and advancing in the open under an array of FPV drones would be not too smart.

  4. Feral Finster

    The Americans get it just fine. The goal is to use warm live Ukrainian bodies to soak up as many Russian munitions as possible before the call goes out to Send In The Poles!

    No, most Polish people are not exactly jazzed about the idea. Nobody will ask them. Russian life < Ukrainian life < Polish life < German life < British life < American life.

    In the meantime, NATO will continue to strike Russian targets, seize ships carrying Russian cargo, etc., all with total impunity.

    Anyway, Ukraine has bene press-ganging men into service for years now. So what? It works.

  5. Nat Wilson Turner

    Daily Kos has been carrying water for the war party since 2022. It’s pathetic and none of their claims ever pan out. If Ukraine was killing more Russians they wouldn’t be massively outnumbered at the front, they wouldn’t have a desertion crisis and they wouldn’t be press ganging people by the hundreds of thousands.
    A handful of pro-Western propagandists are worth reading because the pro-Russian side (or Realists as they call themselves) sometimes get fooled by spin as well, but Kos and O’Brien are not among them.

  6. elkern

    I’m certain that Putin wants military control of all of Donetsk Oblast, before starting any real negotiations (doesn’t want to have to trade anything else for pieces of Donetsk). I’m not so sure that the Russian Military – or other relevant power-centers in Russia – share Putin’s legalistic approach to the importance of current Oblast boundaries.

    Putin is not the bloodthirsty monster depicted by MSM. I suspect that he would strongly prefer to end this bloody mess sooner rather than later – and it won’t end without some kind of diplomatic negotiations.

    So, I imagine that there is some pressure for Russian forces to take the rest of Donetsk relatively soon. This will of course be balanced with/against the more specifically Military strategy of Attrition; but at some point, they may decide that they have ‘attrited’ (I usually enjoy verbing nouns, but that one’s just Ugly) enough Ukrainians to try some of those Big Arrows.

    Russia must be working furiously on counter-drone weaponry; I’ll bet they come up with some really imaginative approaches, and that at least one of those will work damn well. If they can roll something like that out soon, they might be able to clear Donetsk fairly soon, and then start rolling up Zaporizhzhia Oblast. Drones have become Ukraine’s only effective tactical option; countering that would make rapid advances much easier (and cheaper, esp in terms of lives).

  7. Feral Finster

    @elkern: It is abundantly obvious that Russia never wanted this war in the first place, which is why they spent eight years trying to get Ukraine to comply with its obligations under Minsk-2, which was an obvious sham after Ukraine broke the original Minsk Accord.

    As detailed by RAND, NATO strategy always was to put Russia in a position where they had no other choice but to go to war.

    After the war started, Russia has been desperately trying to reach a negotiated settlement. The Ankara talks are a case in point.

    Needless to say, the West sees Russian reluctance to fight as contemptible weakness and redoubles its efforts.

  8. Soredemos

    Cultural essentialism is incredibly tiresome and uninformative. That there are more hardline factions in Russian society and politics that view Putin as far too soft in conducting this war isn’t a Western fiction. Russian society is as capable of a variety of thought as any other.

    ‘It’s Russian nature to play the long game’ is as much a cliche as expecting human eave attacks and armored swarms. I’ll also point out that anything you might claim as essentially Russian can also apply equally to Ukrainians, because they are different regional variants of the same East Slavic cultural sphere. You might as well pretend Alabamans are vastly different from Mississippians. They aren’t.

  9. Feral Finster

    @Sordemos: ‘It’s Russian nature to play the long game’ is as much a cliche as expecting human eave attacks and armored swarms.

    It’s worse than cliched – it’s entirely ahistorical, unless you wish to ignore (to give a few of the first examples to come to mind in the last 100 or so years), the Brusilov Offensive, Operation Bagration, Operation August Storm, the Invasion of Czechoslovakia, the Ogaden War, or, for that matter, the war with Georgia not so long ago.

    It’s just cope, intended to make excusess for Russia’s current dithering and indecision in a war they do not want.

  10. Purple Library Guy

    I definitely get the impression from the day-to-day what’s-happening-on-the-front I follow, that Ukraine is running low on forces on the quieter parts of the front. The Russians are starting to creep forward in some places where they’re not really mounting a big push or anything, it just seems like Ukraine stripped the area of defenders to reinforce Pokrovsk and so the local Russian forces are like “Why not?”

  11. Mark Level

    Excellent post by Sean Paul, thorough, well-informed and detailed.

    Thus the first rebuke from “Tallifer”, unseen in ages, crawled out from under their rock. Tallifer’s cherry-picked “experts” are all Chickenhawk Keyboard Commandos equivalent to Baghdad Bob in 2003 (“There are no US troops in Baghdad!”) Hey, Tallifer, as such a Believer in Aryan Ukranian superiority why aren’t you fighting in theater?

    Eric Anderson is of course correct, and Marku makes a good point. Just as we were assured for the 2 years it took the Russians to clear out the central transport hub of Bakhmut to have all the Talliferian experts claim there was “no strategic value” there, historical pretzel-logic and lies repeat with claims Potrovsk doesn’t matter. If it didn’t matter at all, why were Zelensky and possibly Syrsky (maybe he was forced?) to let thousands of men be trapped in cauldrons and either slaughtered outright or captured?

    Even the MSM is no longer making Talliferian assertions about Potrovsk holding on against “the Orcs”, and last week Zelensky was lying that the Russians aren’t winning, claimed Ukraine “taking back land” (!!) yesterday he admitted the situation is desperate (begging for Euro money as usual, only 25% of it goes into his foreign mansions, yachts or up his nose.) I saw Colonel MacGregor talking with Glen Diesen recently and MacG’s estimate of deaths up to this point was 130,000 for Russia, 1.8 million for Ukraine. Every prisoner exchange features 30-50 Ukros traded for a handful of Russians, often in the single digits.

    L&S is equally Russophobic as Tallifer, I was hoping he’d weigh in; perhaps he is smarter than that. He’s brighter than Tallifer, not a high bar.

    As much as I admire most of what Nat Wilson Turner writes, “at least since 2022” is many years too late. The Great Orange Satan, headed by someone who killed his own people for the Empire back in the day, has been carrying water for the War Party since at least Obama’s ascendance, which was in 2008. And accelerated greatly with Russiagate, which, like Rachel Maddow, it probably still contends was true. (I don’t waste time or brain cells following either.)

    Grammatically, I concur with elkern, I used to cringe at crap like “incentivize”, used in my professional life by stupid people. I note that SpellCheck has no objection to that blather, whereas the word “Neoliberal” is red-underlined as “wrong.” When it has been the ruling ideology of the West since the mid-1970s. See Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language.”

    Thank you to Finster and Sorodemos for shooting down a silly shibboleth that is overused. The other one states that “The Russians always start wars badly, but do well in time.” I won’t endorse or refute that claim, except to note that when I used to teach high-school students how to do well on the Bush-Obama Drill ‘n Kill annual tests, it was a truism that most statements containing “always” or “never” are red flags.

  12. shagggz

    Feral Finster, how does Ankara, or anything else in how this war has progressed, show Russia to be “desperate”?

  13. Jorge

    For those still having trouble with the concept of a “war of attrition” (as explained to me): the Spanish Civil War was over, strategically, after several months. But, Franco, facing millions of angry losers, spent another two years allowing them to dance in front of his cannon. And dance they did. Until he judged that there were few enough left that they would not be a problem for his peacetime rule.

    This is how a war of attrition works: you let the other side keep fighting until they can’t fight any more. Then you move in for the kill.

  14. Carborundum

    Jorge:

    That works if one has a favourable exchange ratio. I’m seeing little indication that that is the case (lots of posturing by the adherents of each side, but little to no real data).

    Western generals absolutely understand the concept of attritional warfare – well enough that they never want to put themselves in a position of waging it. If the nature of the Russian soul trends to accepting this sort of thing, they’d be well advised to deploy tools other than force of arms. The amount of resources being pissed down a hole here is staggering; all against a group of folks who are apparently covering about three times the frontage doctrine says they should be for the forces they can muster.

  15. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Jorge: you are 100% correct.

  16. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Feral Finster: I’d like to hear an answer to that question as well. In my view Ankara has a largely role in the Gaza genocide than anything in the Ukraine.

    @Shagggz: good question, mate.

  17. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Tallifer: the ISW is a propaganda outlet. In all of their assessments of the Russo-Ukraine war they do not mention the word attrition even once. They have no reason to be taken seriously. Zero. They have no credibility. If you call yourself the Institute for the Study of War and fail to discuss, even derisively, a Russian’s strategy of attrition you have failed at your job. Laughably so.

    Finally, your comment boils down what USMC Gen. Chesty Puller said during the battle of Chosin Reservoir,”we’re surrounded, that simplifies the problem.” Except Gen. Puller had heavy logistic support, whereas the Ukrainian brigade in the Pokrovsk-Myrnohrad pocket has logistic support resembling the pitiful efforts of the Luftwaffe when the Germany Sixth Army was surrounded at Stalingrad. Simple answer: it’s not even close and the soldiers in the pocket are fucked.

  18. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Soredemos: you make a point I cannot argue with. It was like me uttering that cliche that Russians are very good at suffering. They are and are not. They despise suffering, that’s part of the reason Putin is so popular, as he has increased the well-being of the average Russian greatly since 1999. I regret the error and appreciate you tactfully pointing it out.

  19. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Purple Library Guy: that is what I am hearing from sources I trust on You Tube, on the web, and personally. As you well know, this is a result of attritional warfare when the enemies forces begin to seriously degrade. Some experts say the Ukraine used the remainder of its strategic reserve in counterattacking the Pokrovsk salient/pocket.

  20. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Eric Anderson: I am convinced there are some high level US generals who do not understand what the hell Russia is doing in the Ukraine because of their US/NATO indoctrination. Our indoctrination of soldiers and officers is intense. So, yeah, they are ignorant.

    That said, I am also sure there are some smart cookies in the US Army, Navy and Marines (but not the AF), the majority of whom are apolitical, but intellectual field grade officers–majors, Lt. Cols, and Cols.–who do get it and worry about the future, including drone warfare.

  21. Feral Finster

    “shagggz
    Feral Finster, how does Ankara, or anything else in how this war has progressed, show Russia to be “desperate”?”

    Ankara was basically Minsk-3. The Ukrainians were shocked at how lenient the terms were.

  22. Feral Finster

    @Jorge:

    The difference between Spain in 1936 and Ukraine in 2025 is demographics. Spain had a much younger population of angry losers. The median age in Ukraine was over 40, and that is before the war.

  23. Sean Paul Kelley

    @Feral Finster: you are conflating Ankara with the negotiations that Boris Johnson keel-hauled in Istanbul.

  24. Feral Finster

    Sorry, I do that. The point is that Russia was desperate for a negotiated solution from the outset. The West wouldn’t even give Russia the figleaf of another Minsk-3 and Russia has been too indecisive and impotent to force the issue.

    Believe me I am as far as one can get from a Ukraine homer.

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