If the comment didn’t appear on your thread-view with the words ” awaiting moderation before publishing” . . . if it just never even appeared at all . . . it could be due to purely random technical reasons inside the technology.
If you scour the newspages you can find various articles about a Danish study published last month regarding vaccines containing aluminum.
The “largest best-controlled” study reveals “no evidence” that the heavy metal aluminum in vaccines is harmful. It is “definitive” “rigorous” and “well-designed”. It “puts to rest any lingering doubt” about aluminum being harmful. The “danger of aluminum” has been “debunked”.
At the top you’ll notice there is a “CORRECTION” we’ll return to that at the end.
Click on the “AUTHOR, ARTICLE, & DISCLOSURE INFORMATION” at the very top and click “Download author disclosures”
Admitted conflicts of interests in the last 36 months include:
“Novo Nordisk”, “VAC4EU”, and “Lundbeck”
Click on the authors and you can see that 3 out of 4 work for the “Statens Serum Institut” which develops, manufactures, and sells vaccines.
Can you say conflict of interest once twice and once again for good measure?
Table 2 In the supplement section shows vaccines containing aluminum are given during the ages 0-2 years and 5-12 years.
There was data from 1997-2018. Some children received 0 vaccines, some received the highest amount, and some received an amount inbetween.
To get to the supplement section you have to go the the bottom at “Supplemental Material” and click Download.
If you were going to look to see the effects of vaccines containing aluminum what comparisons among those groups would you look at?
What years of age would you look at?
Write down what you’d do. Seriously, think about it and write down what an objective honest investigation of the data would look like.
Would you include diagnoses made during the years when children were being injected with aluminum such as before age 2 and after age 5?
Here is what the study did:
“we identified outcome events as any first hospital contact where an outcome diagnosis was recorded”
“We followed children from 2 years of age”
“We followed children until they reached age 5”
The authors adjusted the data based on various variables. This can be done to remove effects of variables that are unrelated to the subject being studied.
In this study the subject being studied was health outcomes of vaccines containing aluminum.
One of the things the authors adjusted for was:
“number of visits to a general practitioner before age 2”
The study is supposed to be testing the health outcomes of vaccines containing aluminum, yet the authors adjusted the data based on health outcomes that occurred during the 2 years children were most heavily injected with aluminum.
In the supplement on page 3 table 1 it lists the exclusion and inclusion criteria.
Would you include children who received the most vaccinations? Would you include children who received no vaccines?
The authors excluded:
“Received >3 diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, and Haemophilus influenzae type b (DTP) vaccines, >3 Hepatitis B (HBV) vaccines, or >3 pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV) vaccines by age 2”
“15237 children (1.2%) did not receive any aluminum-adsorbed vaccines”
“analyses included stratifying by sex and birth cohort (1997 to 2006 and 2007 to 2018), removing children not vaccinated with aluminum-adsorbed vaccines by age 2”
That is what the experts, media, and medical industry consider “the best” “well-designed” “rigorous” study.
Remember that “CORRECTION” mentioned at the very beginning?
“The article was corrected on 17 July 2025 to include the correct version of the Supplementary Material.”
Interesting… The conflict of interest ladened authors published their study believing the data said something it didn’t.
The major correction regards “Supplement figure 11. Risk differences in autoimmune, atopic or allergic, and neurodevelopmental disorders”
The baseline comparison is children who received >3mg-4.5mg aluminum.
The middle column in the table compares those who received >0-1.5mg
The last column on the right compares those who received >1.5mg-3mg
“Thus, risk differences above 1.00 reflect positive associations with the compared group that received a lower amount of cumulative aluminum exposure”
For autoimmune outcomes the righthand column had a -4.98 statistically significant lower rate compared to the more vaccinated group.
For neurodevelopmental outcomes:
The right hand column had statistically significant results showing that the less vaccinated group had lower rates of
“Neurodevelopmental outcomes” -9.73,
“other pervasive developmental disorders” -3.74, “Autistic disorder” -4.49,
“autism spectrum disorder composite” -8.68.
From the comment section of the review:
“Although Andersson et al. do not provide incidence rates for children who did not receive aluminum-adsorbed vaccines, these can be calculated from their published data”
“These calculations reveal a marked reduction in disease risk among children who did not receive aluminum-adsorbed vaccines compared to those who did, with statistically significant results”
Don’t worry though. People whose income depends on the medical industry assure you that the products they make money on are safe and effective. These people are so caring, and so very very smart.
They aren’t like people in banking, the military, politics, police, real estate etc. They are special and cannot physically fall prey to group think, biases or be corrupt. It’s all okay, forget about the opioid catastrophe, Vioxx, Alzheimer’s research fraud etc. Don’t waste your time understanding and reading. All those antivaxxers are just crazy and stupid.
It’s all okay, don’t worry yourself about the ever increasing rates of chronic illnesses. The experts are paid 6 figures salaries to do you’re thinking for you. Keeping following, keep injecting and go turn the TV back on.
I read that the motive for the Ft. Stewart shooting was that the shooter has been harrassed due to his stutter. If that is the case I figure that the shooter shot those who had been responsible for harrassing him. If that is the case those who got shot got what they deserved. I am happy about that.
If the shooter shot random people in his unit those who got shot got what they deserved for being part of a continuing criminal enterprise that is supporting genocide in the middle east and supporting aggression in eastern Europe, by supporting polices which hinder the Russian liberation of Ukraine and the EU. I am happy about that.
In Germany one sees a lot of bullshit about the danger that the German AFD partry is for Germans. It is true that the AFD is a far right wing party that is probably supported by the US MIC.
But the more relevent fact is that the Greens, the SPD, and the CDU/CSU are now more right wing than the AFD.
My cover can’t do the original justice, but it’s the sentiment that matters. I don’t hate Canadians. I truly like some Canadians and some I do n’t like just as sure as I like some Americans and don’t like some.
I don’t know how many here are genuinely pursuing emigration like I am, but the biggest obstacle I’m running into is the distinction between a regularly skilled worker and what qualifies as highly skilled for work visas. If you work in an office on a computer all day and can do some coding but you’re not a software developer, then you’re regularly skilled.
The second biggest obstacle is that relocation consultants charge rates catering to the highly skilled salary band: doctors, engineers, coders. To hire someone to help you find a job is so expensive you need to be highly skilled, and to hire them to help make sure you’re above board with immigration paperwork, or to get you a local apartment so you’re not paying higher rates at a place like HousingAnywhere.
“The author makes two other important contributions to the current political dialogue. The first is to refute the illusion promoted by both political parties that American history is a timeline of uninterrupted progress and advancement. It is, more than we care to admit, a history of exploitation and the dominance of minority interests under the guise of personal and economic freedom that, for most, does not exist.
And because it is a myth that is almost universally accepted, the author notes, real political reform in the US is virtually impossible to achieve, in short because we refuse to see the world the way it really is. We have, as a result, neither the confidence nor the persistence to force the owners of capital, which control the political agenda, to give up the advantages they have enshrined into American politics and business.”
So Israel plans to conquer and occupy all of Gaza while also striking Syria and Jordan. Where’s the manpower and muscle coming from if the US is running low on weapons? Or maybe there are enough killing implements to go around for Nutty Yahoo’s fever dreams and the great little green guy , too. You know, that Ukie comedian.
What about the personnel? One reads about desertion and failed recruitment efforts, not to mention PTSD and a dwindling number of military age men and women. Or is that more misinformation? Maybe there are infinite reserves of those ready to kill and be killed, but I doubt it.
Something’s gotta give somewhere, but I keep hearing rumors of war and more war. Violence and hatred all around the neighborhood.
On another note, it’s still summertime, and harvest time is on the way, unless you live where the earth is either scorched or flooded. Sheesh, I wanted to leave with some cheerful image of butterflies flitting about the flowers with bunny rabbits hopping around or something like that, but, you know. . .
Joan, an approach that worked for us is to take a couple of weeks in the country we plan to move to and look for jobs suitable to your skills where language isn’t going to be an issue. You can look for expat websites that cater to the country in question, which is FREE and doesn’t require travel, and allows you to look for jobs and housing. Another approach is to get a US job thst allows 100% remote work and get a digital nomad visa. This allows you to draw a US size salary to spend in country, that presumably is much cheaper in terms of living expenses. Expat videos on YouTube can be very helpful for getting information both general and specific.
@joan: if you are only normally skilled in the US, why would any country in the global south want to let you in? they have a massive glut of normally skilled citizens. if you have several million dollars to stake into local investment that will employ their citizens that’s one thing (but is also the kind of gentrification that distorts local economies). just assuming you can swan in and…what? hang out?
Joan: Try PrideNomad by Ken Krell. Its a website and YouTube channel that seeks to connect Queer folx with international Jobs.
Ibaien: Different countries have different needs in terms of potential employees. Some have a glut of software engineers, some have a dearth. And depending on the country you can live for pennies on the dollar. We’re going to be living mostly on our Social Security, though we were thinking of setting up some kind of therapeutic wellness retreat, once we get settled in. One member of our group has some inherited money, so we can invest in a home with sufficient land and facilities. You seem to think that living as a US expat is some bizarre aberration, when in reality people have been doing so for over a century. Many of the more popular destinations have thriving expat communities. Its just not that hard, although the bureaucratic hurdles can seem daunting.
also for Joan -Years ago an Australian fellow told me that with my ordinary skills, I would have a better job and life in Australia. Also wouldn’t require learning a new language. If you’re willing to go that far.
Interesting discussions about going expat. I did it for years in both Europe and Latin America in more benign times, and it worked for me kinda sorta as I was dependent on the local economies and had to accept their wages without insider benefits. In most cases there was no expat community to connect with and when there was I found them odious.
As an oldster I’m no longer interested in making the transition, although I probably would if I lived in some urban environment and had to pay market rent and utilities while surrounded by all the attendant noise and toxicity. But I don’t, so hallelujah.
Also there’s no place immune from environmental disaster, corruption and ugliness in general. I’ve always had the good fortune to live in places of natural beauty btw.
But I didn’t start out to say any of this. I wanted to correct something said in a previous comment and that is, Israel is attacking Lebanon, not Jordan.
Maybe hope and faith are not really in short supply. There is actually a huge amount of hope and faith that is based upon ignorance. Does hope and faith that is based upon ignorance count as hope and faith?
Would be great if Iran could hit them so hard it would take out their stupid little economy, but if anyone is crazy enough to use nukes it would be those monsters.
@joan- Another option for emigration is to switch to an industry here which is big in that country, so at least you have industry experience. Petroleum for Alberta, for instance.
I take great joy in the kindness of strangers and the innocence of animals even when they’re misbehaving.
And I take great joy in lovers’ passion and happiness however fleeting
And I’m joyful whenever any being anywhere works for the benefit of others freely and openly and selflessly
Joy to the world and to you and me . . .
Unconditionally
There is actually a huge amount of hope and faith that is based upon ignorance.
Is there any other kind?
Is a creative, constructive impulse from dark, fatalistic pessimism also possible? It would certainly seem appropriate to an approaching age of junkyard civilization, overwhelmed by a legacy of depleted nature and accumulated waste. Salvage as salvation, if you like.
Bruce,
Those are some very good questions. Would I expect someone to make an investment in to some kind of medium to long term creative project when it strongly appears that there is no long term and probably no medium term time frame to recover any sort of investment. I see short term as less than 5 years medium term as 5 to 25 and long term over 25.
All over the world decision makers are making decisions as if the end of humanity is not on the horizon. Maybe these decsion makers know but have decided that there is no alternative to business as usual. Maybe these decions makers know how bad the environmental problems are, but I doubt it.
Do to the short time window that is actually available to get any thing at all done it seems to me that the only strategy on how to live ones life at this point that makes sense to me is business as usual until everything collapses. If for some people revenge counts as business as usual we can expect even more and larger wars.
Climate scientists are completely unqualified to say when humans will go extinct. They are experts on climate. They are not experts in logistics, or in psychology, or artificial intellegence, or backwards planning, or the level of oil or copper or lithium or nickle reserves, or on backwards planning, or electrical engineering. or what the MIC is planning to do in the near future.
People who are experts in these field know that humanity is fucked. And that the collapse is not all that far off.
mago
Interesting that a lengthy comment just posted disappeared.
Don’t know how or why and it doesn’t matter.
Ain’t never going back again. .. .
different clue
@mago,
If the comment didn’t appear on your thread-view with the words ” awaiting moderation before publishing” . . . if it just never even appeared at all . . . it could be due to purely random technical reasons inside the technology.
Oakchair
If you scour the newspages you can find various articles about a Danish study published last month regarding vaccines containing aluminum.
The “largest best-controlled” study reveals “no evidence” that the heavy metal aluminum in vaccines is harmful. It is “definitive” “rigorous” and “well-designed”. It “puts to rest any lingering doubt” about aluminum being harmful. The “danger of aluminum” has been “debunked”.
Link to the study:
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/ANNALS-25-00997
At the top you’ll notice there is a “CORRECTION” we’ll return to that at the end.
Click on the “AUTHOR, ARTICLE, & DISCLOSURE INFORMATION” at the very top and click “Download author disclosures”
Admitted conflicts of interests in the last 36 months include:
“Novo Nordisk”, “VAC4EU”, and “Lundbeck”
Click on the authors and you can see that 3 out of 4 work for the “Statens Serum Institut” which develops, manufactures, and sells vaccines.
Can you say conflict of interest once twice and once again for good measure?
Table 2 In the supplement section shows vaccines containing aluminum are given during the ages 0-2 years and 5-12 years.
There was data from 1997-2018. Some children received 0 vaccines, some received the highest amount, and some received an amount inbetween.
To get to the supplement section you have to go the the bottom at “Supplemental Material” and click Download.
If you were going to look to see the effects of vaccines containing aluminum what comparisons among those groups would you look at?
What years of age would you look at?
Write down what you’d do. Seriously, think about it and write down what an objective honest investigation of the data would look like.
Would you include diagnoses made during the years when children were being injected with aluminum such as before age 2 and after age 5?
Here is what the study did:
“we identified outcome events as any first hospital contact where an outcome diagnosis was recorded”
“We followed children from 2 years of age”
“We followed children until they reached age 5”
The authors adjusted the data based on various variables. This can be done to remove effects of variables that are unrelated to the subject being studied.
In this study the subject being studied was health outcomes of vaccines containing aluminum.
One of the things the authors adjusted for was:
“number of visits to a general practitioner before age 2”
The study is supposed to be testing the health outcomes of vaccines containing aluminum, yet the authors adjusted the data based on health outcomes that occurred during the 2 years children were most heavily injected with aluminum.
In the supplement on page 3 table 1 it lists the exclusion and inclusion criteria.
Would you include children who received the most vaccinations? Would you include children who received no vaccines?
The authors excluded:
“Received >3 diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, and Haemophilus influenzae type b (DTP) vaccines, >3 Hepatitis B (HBV) vaccines, or >3 pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV) vaccines by age 2”
“15237 children (1.2%) did not receive any aluminum-adsorbed vaccines”
“analyses included stratifying by sex and birth cohort (1997 to 2006 and 2007 to 2018), removing children not vaccinated with aluminum-adsorbed vaccines by age 2”
That is what the experts, media, and medical industry consider “the best” “well-designed” “rigorous” study.
Remember that “CORRECTION” mentioned at the very beginning?
“The article was corrected on 17 July 2025 to include the correct version of the Supplementary Material.”
Interesting… The conflict of interest ladened authors published their study believing the data said something it didn’t.
The major correction regards “Supplement figure 11. Risk differences in autoimmune, atopic or allergic, and neurodevelopmental disorders”
The baseline comparison is children who received >3mg-4.5mg aluminum.
The middle column in the table compares those who received >0-1.5mg
The last column on the right compares those who received >1.5mg-3mg
“Thus, risk differences above 1.00 reflect positive associations with the compared group that received a lower amount of cumulative aluminum exposure”
For autoimmune outcomes the righthand column had a -4.98 statistically significant lower rate compared to the more vaccinated group.
For neurodevelopmental outcomes:
The right hand column had statistically significant results showing that the less vaccinated group had lower rates of
“Neurodevelopmental outcomes” -9.73,
“other pervasive developmental disorders” -3.74, “Autistic disorder” -4.49,
“autism spectrum disorder composite” -8.68.
From the comment section of the review:
“Although Andersson et al. do not provide incidence rates for children who did not receive aluminum-adsorbed vaccines, these can be calculated from their published data”
“These calculations reveal a marked reduction in disease risk among children who did not receive aluminum-adsorbed vaccines compared to those who did, with statistically significant results”
Don’t worry though. People whose income depends on the medical industry assure you that the products they make money on are safe and effective. These people are so caring, and so very very smart.
They aren’t like people in banking, the military, politics, police, real estate etc. They are special and cannot physically fall prey to group think, biases or be corrupt. It’s all okay, forget about the opioid catastrophe, Vioxx, Alzheimer’s research fraud etc. Don’t waste your time understanding and reading. All those antivaxxers are just crazy and stupid.
It’s all okay, don’t worry yourself about the ever increasing rates of chronic illnesses. The experts are paid 6 figures salaries to do you’re thinking for you. Keeping following, keep injecting and go turn the TV back on.
mago
Thanks different clue.
Makes as much sense as anything else in a senseless world. . .
bruce wilder
the random inside the technology really is out to get you
beware skynet
Curt Kastens
I read that the motive for the Ft. Stewart shooting was that the shooter has been harrassed due to his stutter. If that is the case I figure that the shooter shot those who had been responsible for harrassing him. If that is the case those who got shot got what they deserved. I am happy about that.
If the shooter shot random people in his unit those who got shot got what they deserved for being part of a continuing criminal enterprise that is supporting genocide in the middle east and supporting aggression in eastern Europe, by supporting polices which hinder the Russian liberation of Ukraine and the EU. I am happy about that.
Curt Kastens
In Germany one sees a lot of bullshit about the danger that the German AFD partry is for Germans. It is true that the AFD is a far right wing party that is probably supported by the US MIC.
But the more relevent fact is that the Greens, the SPD, and the CDU/CSU are now more right wing than the AFD.
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I love Gordon Lightfoot’s music. Always have. Canada’s pride. This is an ode to him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wM1gKcLTaI
My cover can’t do the original justice, but it’s the sentiment that matters. I don’t hate Canadians. I truly like some Canadians and some I do n’t like just as sure as I like some Americans and don’t like some.
Joan
I don’t know how many here are genuinely pursuing emigration like I am, but the biggest obstacle I’m running into is the distinction between a regularly skilled worker and what qualifies as highly skilled for work visas. If you work in an office on a computer all day and can do some coding but you’re not a software developer, then you’re regularly skilled.
The second biggest obstacle is that relocation consultants charge rates catering to the highly skilled salary band: doctors, engineers, coders. To hire someone to help you find a job is so expensive you need to be highly skilled, and to hire them to help make sure you’re above board with immigration paperwork, or to get you a local apartment so you’re not paying higher rates at a place like HousingAnywhere.
I’ll keep at it but I thought I would share.
canopy
The Populist Moment
Lawrence Goodwyn
from goodreads –
“The author makes two other important contributions to the current political dialogue. The first is to refute the illusion promoted by both political parties that American history is a timeline of uninterrupted progress and advancement. It is, more than we care to admit, a history of exploitation and the dominance of minority interests under the guise of personal and economic freedom that, for most, does not exist.
And because it is a myth that is almost universally accepted, the author notes, real political reform in the US is virtually impossible to achieve, in short because we refuse to see the world the way it really is. We have, as a result, neither the confidence nor the persistence to force the owners of capital, which control the political agenda, to give up the advantages they have enshrined into American politics and business.”
mago
So Israel plans to conquer and occupy all of Gaza while also striking Syria and Jordan. Where’s the manpower and muscle coming from if the US is running low on weapons? Or maybe there are enough killing implements to go around for Nutty Yahoo’s fever dreams and the great little green guy , too. You know, that Ukie comedian.
What about the personnel? One reads about desertion and failed recruitment efforts, not to mention PTSD and a dwindling number of military age men and women. Or is that more misinformation? Maybe there are infinite reserves of those ready to kill and be killed, but I doubt it.
Something’s gotta give somewhere, but I keep hearing rumors of war and more war. Violence and hatred all around the neighborhood.
On another note, it’s still summertime, and harvest time is on the way, unless you live where the earth is either scorched or flooded. Sheesh, I wanted to leave with some cheerful image of butterflies flitting about the flowers with bunny rabbits hopping around or something like that, but, you know. . .
Enjoy your weekend if you have one.
DMC
Joan, an approach that worked for us is to take a couple of weeks in the country we plan to move to and look for jobs suitable to your skills where language isn’t going to be an issue. You can look for expat websites that cater to the country in question, which is FREE and doesn’t require travel, and allows you to look for jobs and housing. Another approach is to get a US job thst allows 100% remote work and get a digital nomad visa. This allows you to draw a US size salary to spend in country, that presumably is much cheaper in terms of living expenses. Expat videos on YouTube can be very helpful for getting information both general and specific.
ibaien
@joan: if you are only normally skilled in the US, why would any country in the global south want to let you in? they have a massive glut of normally skilled citizens. if you have several million dollars to stake into local investment that will employ their citizens that’s one thing (but is also the kind of gentrification that distorts local economies). just assuming you can swan in and…what? hang out?
DMC
Joan: Try PrideNomad by Ken Krell. Its a website and YouTube channel that seeks to connect Queer folx with international Jobs.
Ibaien: Different countries have different needs in terms of potential employees. Some have a glut of software engineers, some have a dearth. And depending on the country you can live for pennies on the dollar. We’re going to be living mostly on our Social Security, though we were thinking of setting up some kind of therapeutic wellness retreat, once we get settled in. One member of our group has some inherited money, so we can invest in a home with sufficient land and facilities. You seem to think that living as a US expat is some bizarre aberration, when in reality people have been doing so for over a century. Many of the more popular destinations have thriving expat communities. Its just not that hard, although the bureaucratic hurdles can seem daunting.
DMC
https://pridenomad.beehiiv.com/p/pn-173-they-re-offering-queer-nomads-10-year-visas-while-america-burns
oblique
also for Joan -Years ago an Australian fellow told me that with my ordinary skills, I would have a better job and life in Australia. Also wouldn’t require learning a new language. If you’re willing to go that far.
mago
Interesting discussions about going expat. I did it for years in both Europe and Latin America in more benign times, and it worked for me kinda sorta as I was dependent on the local economies and had to accept their wages without insider benefits. In most cases there was no expat community to connect with and when there was I found them odious.
As an oldster I’m no longer interested in making the transition, although I probably would if I lived in some urban environment and had to pay market rent and utilities while surrounded by all the attendant noise and toxicity. But I don’t, so hallelujah.
Also there’s no place immune from environmental disaster, corruption and ugliness in general. I’ve always had the good fortune to live in places of natural beauty btw.
But I didn’t start out to say any of this. I wanted to correct something said in a previous comment and that is, Israel is attacking Lebanon, not Jordan.
How long can this go on?
Curt Kastens
Maybe hope and faith are not really in short supply. There is actually a huge amount of hope and faith that is based upon ignorance. Does hope and faith that is based upon ignorance count as hope and faith?
oblique
Would be great if Iran could hit them so hard it would take out their stupid little economy, but if anyone is crazy enough to use nukes it would be those monsters.
Jorge
@joan- Another option for emigration is to switch to an industry here which is big in that country, so at least you have industry experience. Petroleum for Alberta, for instance.
mago
I take great joy in the kindness of strangers and the innocence of animals even when they’re misbehaving.
And I take great joy in lovers’ passion and happiness however fleeting
And I’m joyful whenever any being anywhere works for the benefit of others freely and openly and selflessly
Joy to the world and to you and me . . .
Unconditionally
bruce wilder
There is actually a huge amount of hope and faith that is based upon ignorance.
Is there any other kind?
Is a creative, constructive impulse from dark, fatalistic pessimism also possible? It would certainly seem appropriate to an approaching age of junkyard civilization, overwhelmed by a legacy of depleted nature and accumulated waste. Salvage as salvation, if you like.
Joan
Thank you so much DMC, oblique, and Jorge!
Curt Kastens
Bruce,
Those are some very good questions. Would I expect someone to make an investment in to some kind of medium to long term creative project when it strongly appears that there is no long term and probably no medium term time frame to recover any sort of investment. I see short term as less than 5 years medium term as 5 to 25 and long term over 25.
All over the world decision makers are making decisions as if the end of humanity is not on the horizon. Maybe these decsion makers know but have decided that there is no alternative to business as usual. Maybe these decions makers know how bad the environmental problems are, but I doubt it.
Do to the short time window that is actually available to get any thing at all done it seems to me that the only strategy on how to live ones life at this point that makes sense to me is business as usual until everything collapses. If for some people revenge counts as business as usual we can expect even more and larger wars.
Curt Kastens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-pZNRN4XAE
Climate scientists are completely unqualified to say when humans will go extinct. They are experts on climate. They are not experts in logistics, or in psychology, or artificial intellegence, or backwards planning, or the level of oil or copper or lithium or nickle reserves, or on backwards planning, or electrical engineering. or what the MIC is planning to do in the near future.
People who are experts in these field know that humanity is fucked. And that the collapse is not all that far off.