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Week-end Wrap – Political Economy – August 18, 2019


  1. Hugh

    Well, it’s official. Epstein committed suicide. I know this because the media have decreed it. Sure, no one, including the FBI, knows what really happened in the last two and half week of Epstein’s life, and more specifically his last 24 hours, but nothing to see here, move along. What if his death was so almighty convenient to so many in our power elites? What if the current storyline has more holes in it than a cart of Swiss cheese? It’s over and done with. A couple of low level flunkies (just the right ones, at the right time, with the right prisoner) misbehaved, but that’s it, tops. Trust us.

    Changing topics, I would just like to point out again the hypocrisy of Nancy Pelosi. First, she says that Trump has been derelict in doing his job –while she has been equally derelict in hers by trying to squelch impeachment. Now she’s doing the same thing with “Moscow Mitch.” McConnell is a piece of corrupt slime. He will stall and suppress any real action on guns and election security, just like Nancy has on impeachment.

    Keeping up the theme of two parties without any distinction between them, the two current Presidential frontrunners, Biden and Trump, are practically identical: two demented old men with enormous senses of entitlement, who act like they give a shit about ordinary Americans when both have spent their lives screwing them over and serving the interests of people like themselves, the rich and powerful. Both are unbelievably lazy and headstrong. Neither can speak five minutes, OK, even one minute, off the cuff without sounding like a complete idiot and producing at least one quotable lie or gaffe.

  2. nihil obstet

    Just want to say that recently I’ve found the comments here interesting, informative, and occasionally even persuasive. Thanks, everybody. Well, I’m not that nice, so, thanks, almost everybody.

  3. The insanity continues. But hey, as long as the research grant money keeps flowing, why make waves?

    From “Study in Journal Nature tries to ‘blacklist’ skeptics – Ranks Climate Depot’s Morano as NUMBER ONE ‘climate contrarian’ in the media! (#1 out of 386 skeptics)”

    “Its mathematical comparison showing that people who debate climate policy in the public policy arena have greater media exposure than researchers who are cited in academic journals is an apples and oranges comparison, lacking scientific validity, that yields a no-brainer. Their decision to not rank the amount of media garnered by warming campaigners, which would have yielded a useful comparison, reveals this for a bogus and offensive propaganda hit piece.

    We are each exposed to a mountain of media every day. Peruse the headlines and media coverage of climate for yourself. Do you need a mathematical analysis to determine which way the coverage is skewed? Wouldn’t you love to see those hard numbers?”

    Well, “apples and oranges” works for some people. Others, like Dr. Judith Curry, talk about “peanuts and elephants”. From “The latest travesty in ‘consensus enforcement’” @

    “Comparing elephants and peanuts

    The most ridiculous thing that this article does is compare the media hits of contrarians that are politicians or journalists with that of ‘consensus scientists’. In the list of contrarians, the following are politicians and journalists that I regard as being generally knowledgable of climate science:

    Marc Morano
    Rex Tillerson
    David Rose
    Mark Steyn
    Matt Ridley
    Nigel Lawson
    Christopher Booker
    Ronald Bailey
    Andrew Montford
    Rupert Darwall
    Lets face it, these individuals are relatively small potatoes in terms of climate change main stream media. Compare the media impact of the above list with

    Al Gore
    Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez
    Greta Thunberg
    The ignorance of climate change of AOC and Greta is rather shocking. Why isn’t anyone concerned about this?”

    I didn’t study the paper, but I’ll bet donuts to dollars it also didn’t isolate appearances on Fox by contrarians, vs. non-Fox MSM appearances. As Randi Rhodes used to say (and probably still does; I can hardly stand listening to her, anymore) “if it didn’t appear on TV, it didn’t happen”. I mean, if Marc Morano is a regular at Heartland Institute climate shindigs, how does that affect the public, in general? For the most part, it doesn’t…..

  4. Interesting Times, we live in. Are they Orwellian, Nineteen Eighty-Four? Or did Huxley nail it twenty years earlier, is it a Brave New World? A Sunday long read [from a few years ago].

    Boiled down to ones and zeros, Orwell feared those who would ban books; Huxley feared there would be no reason to ban books because nobody would want to read one.

    Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information and conceal the truth; Huxley feared the truth would be drown in a sea of irrelevance.

    Orwell feared we would become a captive culture; Huxley feared would become a trivial culture.
    In 1984, people are controlled by inflicting pain; in Brave New World, people are controlled by inflicting pleasure.

    Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us; Huxley feared that we will love what will ruin us.

    What is said is less important than the way it is said, the medium through which the information is conveyed; said another way, if a totalitarian power, Orwell’s Big Brother, can control the means through which information is delivered, the content is of little importance. The problem is an epistemological one, not informational. Not many ‘Muirkans left that pre-date television, and of course the Internet is the entertainment medium of the 21st century, it’s not just ‘if it didn’t happen on tv …’ but ‘but I saw it on the Internet!’

    We Americans are willfully stupid, though much of that is Pavlovian conditioning, and the Ambien, Prozac, Viagra and Megyn Kelly crotch-shots Fox uhhmmm NBC Unemployed! Kool-Aid. And as much as we may dislike to admit it, it is very much a both sides do it, we are all (perhaps unreasonably) attached to our various communications devices, it’s the nature of who we are. Survival in the society, good bad or indifferent, we have become.

  5. Eric Anderson

    That appears to be a tongue in cheek response to this:

    Probably well deserved, as I’d be surprised not at all if there is crossover between the climate change denial camp and the PropOrNot camp.

  6. Eric Anderson

    Cuz, let’s face reality. Fascists like to put people on lists.


    There is a nexus between Trump & Israel cooperating, as a team, to effectively deny access to Ilhan Omar & Rashida Tlaib to the occupied West Bank and this whole Jeffrey Epstein affair. It’s called Kompramat and Israel, by virtue of its operatives like Epstein and many more no doubt, has it on any politician of note. Not AOC, of course, so she and her ilk are marginalized by the mainstream media and her party which are both also highly manipulated by Israel on all matters related to Israel and the Middle East in general.

    Epstein did not commit suicide. He was strangled to death. He was murdered. He was silenced. In plain sight as a message to any & all that it will be their fate too if they sing or are ever even suspected of possibly singing. The irony is, they could sing and I don’t think it would matter. Nothing would be done about it. People would just shrug and move along. We’ve reached Peak Apathy.

    Epstein Strangled? An ER Doctor Weighs In

  8. I heard triple board certified (so we assume he’s very smart) Dr. Zach Bush interviewed by Dr. Mercola about hydration. Bush espouses increasing intracellular hydration (which is largely independent of just drinking more water), and claimed that a test of bioimpedance, call the phase angle test, can give you a good handle on your hydration status.
    Furthermore, he claimed that flotation (in massively over-saturated magnesium/epsom salt baths) is a very powerful way to jumpstart improvements in your hydration status, far outstripping taking magnesium supplements orally, e.g.
    So, I signed up for a couple of flotations at the special, introductory rate. I had my first one this past week.
    Overall, it was enjoyable, and produced a subtle euphoria that seemed to dampen regurgitated memories of painful events of long ago. This effect lasts beyond the flotation.
    I subsequently took the phase angle test, by a non-MD, which was therefore more affordable ($50). But, my practitioner, who relies on this test extensively, didn’t mention anything about hydration. She said she’s pretty good at predicting the results, based on her guess of your body fat percentage, musculature, etc.

    So, I’m not sure what to make of this. It appears that phase angle results are strongly multi-factorial, and you should only use them relative to your own baseline measurement, to assess gains in intracellular hydration. At least until some better way is found, if ever.

    In the meantime, I am less likely to become a regular flotation customer, at it’s fairly expensive. Instead, I’ll dump a whole bag of epsom salts into a warm bath.

    This will cause my wallet to float, though my body will still sink to the bottom. 🙂

    Probably of more interest to readers of this blog is Dr. Bush’s attempt to rescue farmers from having been captured by the agri-business industry. His website is

  9. Eric Andersom

    Much about Dr.’s Bush, Mercola, and the “Integrative Medicine” movement here:

  10. Ché Pasa

    If you want to find out what really happened to Epstein, follow what happens to Nicolas Tartaglione, the “hulking ex-cop” who was his original cellmate and was (apparently) present during Epstein’s first “suicide attempt.”

    We can rest assured that the authorities will do everything possible to confuse the issue and obscure the truth, as they have been doing all along, but keeping tabs on Tartaglione as he is processed through (and possibly out of) the corrections system (he’s actually facing the death penalty for multiple murders) could prove interesting.

    That is all…

  11. @Eric Anderson

    Many things off or wrong about your link. Some, unfortunately, right. (Nonsense uttered by Dr. Sinatra, e.g.)

    As just one example of something wrong, consider nutrition. The author says,
    ” First, it’s dishonest to co-opt things like nutrition, sleep, and exercise and label them as anything besides plain-old medicine. ”

    I’ve been into nutrition from my early teen years in the early 70’s. I had ordered USDA handbook #8 from the government, and tried to design ideal diets based on nutrition books I had read, especially Adelle Davis. I known since my early years that MD’s knew very little about nutrition (mostly because I used to listen a lot to Gary Null. Gary Null got so disgusted hearing the BIG LIE about supplements not helping peoples’ health that he started carting 100’s of studies to his lectures, show the ignorant/liars up for who they were, who would spout off about “no evidence”.)

    Flash forward to a few years ago, and I’m going through youtube lectures on intermittent fasting and diet by Dr. Jason Fung, a nephrologist. He looks like he’s in his 30’s. And he reports that he had all of 3 HOURS of nutrition instruction through BOTH basic medical school plus his advanced education in nephrology. The consequences of this, in his early practice, included amputations amongst diabetic patients that could have been avoided if he had been taught the information that he subsequently acquired, on his own initiative.

    IMNSHO, adequate education in nutrition should be mandated by law, with jail time for medical school administrators who fail to follow the law. Just listen to Fung’s lectures to see how serious a matter this is.

    It’s disgusting that I knew more as an inquisitive kid than doctors who hold people’s lives in their hands.

    Dr. Chad Hayes should not be unaware of this situation. Based on this alone, I can conclude that he is a hack – at best ignorant, at worst a conscious writer of hit pieces.

    If you want to know more about the corruption of medical doctors (plus the “healthcare” industry), I recommend “Don’t Let Your Doctor Kill You: How to Beat Physician Arrogance, Corporate Greed and a Broken System”, which was written by an MD.

  12. metamars

    “It’s disgusting that I knew more as an inquisitive kid than doctors who hold people’s lives in their hands.”

    I meant:

    It’s disgusting that I knew more about nutrition as an inquisitive kid than doctors who hold people’s lives in their hands.

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