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is a day which should be a reminder of how fear can make a people give up their liberties and prosperity and, in response to an atrocity, commit worse atrocities.


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  1. StewartM

    Bin Laden won. His goal was to inflict economic damage on the US, and he succeeded.


  2. Ian Welsh


  3. Ian Welsh

    People who outright lie will have their comments removed.

  4. alyosha

    The AQ leadership is, to all intents and purposes, destroyed.

    Then why are we still there? In how many wars, what’s the latest count? Bin Laden’s stated aim was to trap the USA in ongoing, expensive wars, bleeding us to death. AQ may or may not be destroyed but they won, nonetheless. Mission Accomplished.

    The real economic damage the USA has suffered stems entirely from gross overspending on pork-barrel *domestic* issues..

    You’ve gotta be kidding. Do you realize you sound like a broken record (an archaic term often used by my father’s generation) blindly repeating right wing talking points? Do you have any idea how idiotic you sound? Your comment has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.

    One of the economic damages is opportunity cost. Had we not squandered trillions pursuing oil wars, we could be on our way to some form of energy independence.

    Enough feeding the troll (sorry). Do see Chris Hedges’ We Are What We Loathe. He was at Ground Zero when it happened.

  5. No one has ever dared to suggest that Americans have experienced in a single day on 9/11 what US foreign policy has inflicted on the rest of the world for over thirty years. And, that, is the tragedy.

  6. jcapan


    Look FWD, never back. Magical realism!

  7. Celsius 233

    If ever there was a karmic moment for the U.S.; 9/11 was it.
    What an opportunity…missed…

  8. The orgy of 9/11 victimology and self-pity continues apace. From snipers on the rooftops of New York to maudlin media reports to diversions and grounding of planes because people are deemed “suspicious” by spending too much time in the bathroom (not kidding — can’t keep track of them all — fighter jets scrambled to accompany one plane today) to the complete absence of remembrance for the millions of Iraqis, Afghanis, Pakistanis, Yemenis, Somalis, and god-knows-how-many others we have maimed, tortured, and slaughtered.

    (And yes, Chris Hedges’s piece is, as usual with him, poetic and powerful.)

  9. Rob Grigjanis

    Do see Chris Hedges’ We Are What We Loathe

    See most things by Hedges, or Fisk, or Chomsky. They are sane, therefore considered extremists by all “sensible” people. Sanity is the new insanity.

  10. Rob Grigjanis

    Sanity is the new insanity

    And vice versa.

  11. Here’s the president on my television telling us how 9/11 shows Americans don’t give in to fear. Then he and his shills will go back to saying “vote for me, or Michelle Bachman will become president.”

  12. Celsius 233

    OMG! I’ve done my best not to hear Obama’s speech; but the sound bites are unavoidable even on BBC;
    What an utter load of bullshit spewing from the decider; unbelievable…

  13. Bernard

    America is exactly what Bin Laden wanted. a completely destroyed country, morally, economically and politically. Payback is hell, and we are living in it. To allow a few men, like the Republicans afters 9-11, to completely and utter gut any and all forms of freedom and liberty is one thing Bin Laden knew as they shot him. Bin Laden succeeded.

    just another Banana republic, like El Salvador, Guatemala or Honduras.

    we even have the military, with submachine guns, out in public “guarding” us from “terrorists.”

  14. jcapan

    If anyone’s looking for a good retch:

    And sorry Bernard but the GOP has no monopoly on the exploitation that took place in the wake of 9-11. 82 dem congress critters and 29 dem senators gave Bush’s crusade their approval. Our stupidity was very much a bipartisan affair, as it remains

  15. Oaktown Girl

    Perfectly summarized, Ian. Thanks.

    Thanks also to those who posted a reminder to check out the Chris Hedges piece. Just by the title alone I know it will be a welcome relief from the day’s drum and flag spectacles (hope this url works):

    Another refreshing read today was over at Digby’s place where Tristero deconstructed a “liberal” hawk’s (Bill Keller of NY Times) “mea culpa” for supporting the Iraq invasion:

  16. ” the GOP has no monopoly on the exploitation that took place in the wake of 9-11″

    That’s for sure. Hillary Clinton would be president today if she had not voted for Bush’s war on Iraq.

  17. And sorry Bernard but the GOP has no monopoly on the exploitation that took place in the wake of 9-11. 82 dem congress critters and 29 dem senators gave Bush’s crusade their approval. Our stupidity was very much a bipartisan affair, as it remains

    You beat me to the punch.

  18. Also, y’all might want to take a look at the current kerfuffle at anarchist Crispin Sartwell’s place, Eye of the Storm:

  19. @alyosha:

    Adding my thanks for the Chris Hedges reminder.

    @Lisa Simeone:

    Off to enjoy your tilting over at “eye” for an ad-hoc Voyeurism Monday.

  20. Shoes4industry

    Not to mention Krugman

    The Years of Shame

    Is it just me, or are the 9/11 commemorations oddly subdued?

    Actually, I don’t think it’s me, and it’s not really that odd.

    What happened after 9/11 — and I think even people on the right know this, whether they admit it or not — was deeply shameful. The atrocity should have been a unifying event, but instead it became a wedge issue. Fake heroes like Bernie Kerik, Rudy Giuliani, and, yes, George W. Bush raced to cash in on the horror. And then the attack was used to justify an unrelated war the neocons wanted to fight, for all the wrong reasons.

    A lot of other people behaved badly. How many of our professional pundits — people who should have understood very well what was happening — took the easy way out, turning a blind eye to the corruption and lending their support to the hijacking of the atrocity?

    The memory of 9/11 has been irrevocably poisoned; it has become an occasion for shame. And in its heart, the nation knows it.

    I’m not going to allow comments on this post, for obvious reasons.

  21. “It’s not complicated. It’s just unthinkable.”

    I think about it all of the time. Damn it.

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