The US government is to take a 15% cut of Nvidia and AMD chip sale profits to China. There are also discussion of taking a 10% stock share in Intel.
Meanwhile the Pentagon has taken a hundred million dollar stake in a rare earth miner, and guaranteed minimum prices.
As Albert Pinto notes, this isn’t neoliberalism. Neoliberalism is dying, if not dead, in the US, though the Euros are clinging to it. Everyone’s noticed that China’s hybrid model absolutely trounced the West, and, hey, it’s a chance to get even richer. Pinto thinks that Trump is trying to change the nature of the oligarchy:
8/ Winters’ model of oligarchy:
1 Warring: armed oligarchs defend property claims separately
2 Ruling: oligarchs institutionalise defence
3 Sultanistic: 1 oligarch monopolises armed wealth and defence
4 Civil: state defends property regime Trump: US from 4->3?
Now I don’t think America’s oligarchy going to go Sultanistic, in the sense of one ruling oligarch. The only way that happens is if Trump manages to turn the Presidency into a Trump family matter, and that seems unlikely. But a rotating sultantic Presidency until, perhaps, someone manages to make it permanent: that’s possible.
But the days of laissez-faire are clearly over. Now this isn’t entirely stupid, I’ve been calling for what Trump did for rare earths for twenty years. It’s the obvious thing to do. Likewise, ensuring stable domestic production of necessary resources is sane and necessary and if one has to pay a little bit more, so be it.
Owning shares in US companies isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The truth is that every fundamental innovation which made the internet and smart phones possible was government funded. Tesla doesn’t exist without a massive government loan back when it was nothing. But the government doesn’t share in the upside nearly as much as it should, because large corporations pay almost no taxes. The government takes the risks (Solyndra was given about the same amount of money as Tesla at the same time, and went bankrupt) but doesn’t share in the upside. Tesla just paid back the loan, but if the US had an equity share, it’d have made out very well.
Golden shares, a 10% ownership in large or important firms used to be quite common. It’s not a new policy, but it used to be associated with the left wing. What’s going on now is a right wing version of the same thing.
The President is the strong man who runs the government. Everything private companies do they do because he allows it, therefore government has a right to a share of the profits and to exercise control when it chooses to. The President picks winners and losers, determines the effect of court decisions, and so on.
It’s the logical extension of the tendency to Imperial Presidency. Every other power in society is weakened, the President is above all. An elected dictator, as it were. (Similar to parliamentary democracies in that sense, but very un-American and without the protections of Westminister government, where new parties are possible and governments can fall easily.)
Right now the scramble is to see which faction will control the Presidency after Trump. The best bet is probably the tech-bro faction, since Vance is Peter Thiel, the Palantir surveillance state magnate’s creature. (Though puppets have a tendency to cut their strings when they attain supreme power.)
All of this entails a vast misunderstanding of how the Chinese public/private system works, by the way. For one, China probably has the most competitive (free) markets in the world in those sectors which are private. For another, the system is not run to maximize profit, but to produce certain social and policy outcomes, including a good life for the majority of the population. China has both deliberately reduced housing and rent prices, crashing the housing market and costing owners a huge amount of money, and it has been deliberately reducing the number of billionaires.
These aren’t incidental matters, and just saying “well, we’ll move to a mixed model” misses what makes China’s economy work so well.
But no society run by a financial oligarchy is capable of understanding that “more profit” isn’t the way to win economically, so America will continue to learn the wrong lessons from China. As for Europe, they aren’t even learning the wrong lessons, they’re just doubling down on austerity and increasing military spending in a way which will make some Americans rich and hardly help them at all. Not even in the game.
More on all this later.
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StewartM
I don’t know what you mean by “neoliberalism is dying” as a definition of neoliberalism in practice I just heard was “the state is organized to support and enrich capitalists”. It’s not laissez-faire or free market, it’s giving the rich lots of government-backed goodies and also bailing them out when they screw up.
And that is also consistent with fascist economies. Libertoons seem to think that the capitalist class has some devotion to free markets and no government and laissez-faire. They don’t, they’re perfectly fine with an activist government that organizes things so that they always get richer even if they screw up. They don’t mind the government organizing things to and giving them orders as long as profits are guaranteed.
Ian Welsh
Obviously that isn’t my definition of neoliberal. Taking shares or forcing profit sharing with government is against the neolib consensus, which does include a number of similarities with laissez-faire related to trade and capital movement and taxes.
Purple Library Guy
Saying neoliberalism is just whatever guarantees the highest profits for capitalists is pointless. We have a name for that already: It’s called “capitalism”. That’s the whole point of capitalists and capitalism at all times. For neoliberalism to be worth having as a term at all, it has to refer to some sub-ideology, some at least somewhat coherent strategy within capitalism. And it does.
True, Neoliberalism is not genuinely about laissez-faire, but it’s about stuff that resembles laissez faire. So for instance, as Dean Baker never tires of pointing out, free trade was never about free trade, given that half of it was about extending massive patent and copyright protection regimes. But still, it was about free trade for some in some ways. Neoliberalism is about making sure corporations have no restraints or responsibilities, but still have tons of rights, particularly property rights. The dictator grabbing 10% of the shares and telling companies what to do is putting restraints on corporations; it’s not a neoliberal thing. And elements of Trumpism (not all–like all fascism, it’s incoherent) are not even about maximizing profit, except maybe in a quite indirect way–they’re about nationalism, albeit approached really stupidly.
someofparts
Well, as was noted by pretty much everyone who commented on your post about fascism, we not only know that Trump is fascist, we also know that the US has been this way since the nation was founded. So yeah, as far as identifying and understanding fascism in the US, all of us in this community have been there, done that.
So now, with this post, you are moving past that and starting to talk about what kind of changes our misleaders are going to make to the governing paradigm and how that will play out. I am really looking forward to seeing where you will be going with this line of thinking and will be following assiduously.
bruce wilder
The mind-numbing cliché, “free market economy”, is a key component of neoliberal rhetoric, but not neoliberal ideology, which is embodied by the Washington Consensus idea of institutionalizing a rules-based order to which there can be no alternative. The EU regime, based theoretically on the principles of “free movement” — free movement of capital, free movement of goods and services and free movement of people — implemented by a self-governing bureaucracy issuing endless complex rules and directives is the embodiment of neoliberalism.
The “democratic deficit” is conspicuous in the structure and operation of the EU. There is a European Parliament — a ceremonial debating society and a parking structure for minor politicians taking a time-out — has very little responsibility and no power in the complex overall structure, where the executive Commission, the Courts (endowed with a right of “judicial review” similar to the U.S. concept with all the anti-democratic power that implies) and the Central Bank do all the work and have all the discretion.
When you try to conjure in your mind what “neoliberalism” as a political program aspires to ultimately, I think you should think of the EU as the embodiment of that program: a powerful and vigorous bureaucratic state impartially administering a set of rules implementing principles empowering private capital and private enterprise, but constraining and limiting sharply the scope and reach of popular democratic impulses and use of state power: no deficit spending to support social programs or national industrial planning, for example.
When you associate “neoliberalism” with Reagan-Thatcher/Clinton-Blair as we do in the Anglosphere, we see it as “deregulation” and the pervasive political corruption of “markets-in-everything”, where the Speaker of the House makes a fortune trading stocks. For us, it is the disabling of public purpose in the exercise of public power. Neoliberalism has been implemented in “software” so to speak. For the Europeans, neoliberalism has been implemented in the “hardware” of the “constitution” of the European Union, in the structure of the supranational state. In the latter context, it is easier to see how neoliberalism seeks a strong, post-democratic state, the better to suppress and constrain populist nationalist movements that might oppose the exercise of private bourgeois power and conservation of wealth. This is the neoliberalism that Quinn Slobodian has chronicled.
Historically, the neoliberalism of Hayek and Friedman, of the Mont Pelerin Society, was born in the heady experience of the Hapsburg twilight, when Franz-Joseph signed his truce with the liberals in Hungary and his anachronistic Empire experienced an economic and cultural renaissance of nearly 45 years duration of dazzling proportions, that gave the world, Klimt, Mahler, Wittgenstein, Freud, Tesla et cetera. That “et cetera” includes the First World War and Hitler, but why find fault in a dazzling gem?
From the idealization of that emergent historical circumstance, neoliberalism inherits both its cosmopolitanism and faith in the beneficence of the limited but absolutist state as well as its mission to suppress populist nationalism.
StewartM
Ian Welsh
It was from a discussion with Quinn Slobodian, on the Marxist Channel (“I’m a Dirty Commie) Second Thought:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zswexNXorOE
Slobodian says neoliberalism doesn’t “take the state out of the market”, but puts the state squarely on the side of the capitalist class. When viewed that way, the bailouts and forceclosure crises of 2009 are precisely what the one should expect from a neoliberal state. Neoliberals really aren’t against “the government”, they are fine with an activist government on the side of the capitalist class.
Though the “Dirty Commie” does agree with you, once capitalism has devoured everything that can be devoured it will end.
NL
“Now I don’t think America’s oligarchy going to go Sultanistic, in the sense of one ruling oligarch. The only way that happens is if Trump manages to turn the Presidency into a Trump family matter, and that seems unlikely.”
A basic question: are we sure that someone named Trump is actually ruling the country as opposed to simply announcing to the public the decisions made through a process and by individuals we know nothing about?
A country run by one charismatic leader is inherently unstable — just take the leader down and done. We have seen a decapitation strategy implemented recently — but it mostly failed, because the leadership was dispersed. Nonetheless, the weakness of this leadership was that it was visible.
A country run by a motley crew of individuals, each for a very short time selected by a process akin to a carnival is also inherently unstable. Any country that is run like that is asking for being color revolutioned. Take Georgia , a country in the Caucasus, it has a carnival-like system, and the wealthy Western countries controlled it by equipping the most attractive horse that won the carnival competition. But then somehow a local wealthy individual with independent interest and the will to power emerged. He took control of the carnivals and had his horse win. The Western forces were unhappy, but could not do much. Georgia now has an independent policy, the policy of its wealthy ruler.
Oligarchy is inherently unstable, even more unstable than direct democracy. The Athenian oligarchies were short lived. It is a pit stop before the next tyrant. How do we know that a single oligarch, a family or a clan has not already won in the US and is running the place from the comfort of their mansion unburden by the attention of the masses and threat of the adversaries?
Black holes can be only found out through the effects they have on the visible objects. No one has every seen a black hole by definition. The visible around a black hole behaves in a certain nonrandom way, and so the best explanation is that an invisible super massive object controls it. But — hey — we could also argue that the visible behaves the it does out of its own volition, no need for the black hole conspiracy.
Mark Level
Very busy recently, couldn’t weigh in on the Fascism post in a timely way, so will certainly say I agree with the thesis and there is no denying it at this point.
During his first term, Harper’s ran an “Is Trump a Fascist?” piece, the author correctly concluded he was not, lacks a coherent ideology and self-discipline, concluded that he was an Oligarch Looter but not a Fascist.
Is anything in the Militarist We Love the Troops and Cops and Guns and Violence Hymn Book particularly new? I think not. I moved to NorCal in 1989 and in one of the early Bush Wars (I think Gulf War I), one of the 2 local big grocery stores put a giant “Support the Troops” slogan on the wall, signifying the wedding of Corporatism and Empire, I was repulsed and immediately started boycotting them, for many years, even decades to follow. A small act, but at least something I could do.
A reminder– U$A has 3 holidays for wars and killing (July 4, Veterans Day, & Memorial Day), and only one Labor Day, deliberately moved from May Day, originated following the Haymarket “riots” & police bombing of the crowd, and cops died in the crossfire they whipped up . . . The rest of the world celebrates International Worker’s Day on May 1, it’s moved to the opposite side of the calendar deliberately because Capitalism says workers are oppressed idiots.
I’m not optimistic, the frothing at the mouth “Patriotic” (I worship the Flag and freedumb, not Freedom) rhetoric of the MAGAts & many Dems is pathetic. Let’s not forget, though Trump just lied that he signed a law mandating jail for flag-burning, not so, not remotely, the “EO” (like a donkey braying) does no such thing. And Shrillery many years ago called for jailing those who burned ‘Murican Red (blood) Rags, whether sincerely or just to virtue-signal for votes.
I don’t fly often since Covid, but why do “Active Duty Service” (sic) members get to board early with the handicapped, children, etc? Truthfully, I like probably everyone here sees the most Veterans of Foreign Wars when driving and I see homeless alkies or walking wounded begging for alms with “Veteran” signs. That tells you how moral all these white supremacist wars are, and the cost to those poor or stupid enough to put skin in that game.
Trump was clearly butt-hurt the 4 years he couldn’t hog the stage and became increasingly embittered as well as senile. 79 years old, not as gone as Joe was but he’ll get there. He’s overreaching, 86 ways from Sunday, individual outrages ramp up but often really achieve nothing. E.g., arresting a Mexican-American, throwing him in jail, oops, he’s a citizen, out in a few hours.
The dramatics are scary, scummy rednecks (whether white, black or brown) in ICE masked (illegal for those avoiding being doxxed when protesting Palestine genocide, or at least reason to expel students at some elite Universities) to look scary and dodge responsibility for violating the Constitution, smashing windshields, dragging brown children out of schools, grocery stores, grannies out of church . . . “Your papers please!” if you look less white than Gomer Pyle (who was actually gay.)
Will they expel Kilmar Abrego Garcia for “human trafficking, child abuse,” MS-13 hijinks etc. without any evidence or trial to Uganda, no due process, etc? Maybe– It will be an atrocity of course, but these people are stupid and incompetent and even with pliant judges they’re likely to fuck it up. Last I checked, Trump in both terms has deported fewer than either Creepy Joe or the slick Nobel winning Obama.
Trump’s “very best people” in the Cabinet are closeted alcoholics (Fox spox Pete Hegseth), shock jocks, Zionist shills and clowns. Russell Dobular recently noted that apart from Goering, all of Hitler’s top people (nearly) were idiots, drunks and losers. Plus ca change . . .They’re mostly on the intellectual level of the Mooch in term one . . .
I honestly don’t care if Trump goes after the likes of John Bolton or the Clintons. They went after Trump and turnabout in this case is (to a point) fair play.
Will they really create the Black Iron Prison that Phillip K. Dick warned of? I’m doubtful at this point. The fascism is too ugly. I was repelled when Jonah Goldberg wrote “Friendly Fascism” in the Obama term, claiming that Michelle O. blathering about eating healthy was a form of fascism. But after Joe and Kamala’s genocide, Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries shilling for Palestinian extinction, I really have a hard time seeing the Dimmies as the Lesser Evil. They are just the Good Cop to the R’s open Bad Cop. They make sure that mild reform is impossible, which as JFK (hardly a raging Leftie) long ago warned is the path to “violent revolution.”
They start to look so grotesque that only the sickest, most self-hating losers will bray for them to “win.” Now don’t get me wrong. I recently crossed several US States and when I went thru Iowa and heard nothing but insane religious wackos and right-wing, resentment-filled infantile Shock Jocks on the radio crying about the “Radical Left’s” enormous power and control, I do despair that this country is as doomed as it appears to be.
No fan of NPR, but when I got to Nebraska I could breathe a little easier that not everyone was an insane fascist boot licker.
Can the most fascistic wackos, say their #s are as high as 25% slowly jail, torture and kill off the other 75% who are less self-destructive and miserable? I’m kind of doubting that works well in the long run, but we will see.
The country seems to be collapsing into Chaos and idiocracy. Will any moderately sane group self-organize to survive? It’s not happening YET but we could get there.
As to this post, the new wrinkle that IS fascist is the government pairing with Private Enterprise with Dear Leader, his underlings and his Fail Children openly benefitting from the looting, and destroying the country. Again– is this sustainable? Aren’t they just climbing out on a branch of the Corporate Welfare tree and then sawing away at it? Looks that way to me.
Americans are dumb, lazy and self-hating, but everyone has a limit somewhere. As a Compton resident observed during the Rodney King riots, “If you corner a tiny little kitten to strangle and kill it, it will fight back”. Will the populace rise to the level of a kitten? Again, we’ll see. Fascists gotta Fash, and that always includes going too far with the looting and killing, the wars come home, and some end up dead like Mussolini, or crippled for life like Count Julius Evola.
someofparts
To the extent that Nvidia is partnering with Intel, the word has been out for a while that Intel blew it’s future by spending a decade purchasing its own stocks instead of making any effort at all to innovate and stay at the front of the industry. Now they are so far behind they will never catch up. Don’t know how this effects its partnership with Nvidia, but it can’t be good. Several months ago when I had to replace the CPU that runs the desktop system I am using to post this comment right now, I made a point of getting the one unit at Best Buy that did NOT have an Intel core. So the word about Intel had been out there for a while.