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The Mainstreaming of Nick Fuentes

In the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s death, there is a frenzied competition to replace him as the face of the young American right.

Nick Fuentes, who largely built his following by trolling Charlie Kirk for his support of immigration and Israel, seems to be the biggest immediate beneficiary.

The Bulwark has a good backgrounder on the relationship between Kirk and Fuentes before September 10, 2025. It was called “How the Groypers Won: In the clash between Charlie Kirk and Nick Fuentes, the Pepe people prevailed” and was published in June:

“I’ve noticed people like Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh are now calling for an immigration moratorium,” Fuentes said, in comments first noted by Media Matters. “That means they want to shut down all immigration. And suffice to say, the groypers have won. It’s just not even a question at this point.”

Fuentes has a point. After nearly a decade of being treated as the skunk at the Grand Old Party (so much so that even Trump had to claim not to know him after the two had dinner with Kanye), some of the Republicans’ leading thinkers have adopted his ideas.

No one better symbolizes the right’s surrender to Fuentes than Kirk.

The day before Kirk’s murder, Fuentes got the classic New York Times soft-focus feature article.

The Times featured some red-hot quotes from Fuentes bashing Trump:

“When I was a teenager, I thought he was a Caesar-like figure who was going to save Western civilization,” Mr. Fuentes, 27, said in an interview. “Now I view him as incompetent, corrupt and compromised.”

Specifically, he has criticized the president for showing solidarity with Israel over the war in Gaza, for refusing to release the Epstein files and for considering extending student visas to Chinese nationals. On Labor Day, Mr. Fuentes posted on social media, “Trump 2.0 has been a disappointment in literally every way but nobody wants to admit it.”

In the immediate aftermath of Kirk’s death, as I posted at Naked Capitalism, Fuentes reacted sharply to widespread allegations that Kirk’s accused killer, Tyler Robinson, was one of Fuentes’ groypers:

He seems to have bounced back, maybe this piece by Graeme Wood of The Atlantic calling the accusations of Kirk’s accused killer being a groyper “outlandish” turned things around.

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And things are on the up for Fuentes, as Wired reports:

In the aftermath of Kirk’s death, Fuentes struck a more conciliatory tone, urging followers not to pick up arms, but also repeated that he believes Kirk was “complicit in the Israeli capture of the right wing for a very long time.”
Rather than damaging Fuentes’ popularity, Kirk’s death has accelerated it. His X following has grown by almost 175,000 since Kirk’s death, and he has seen his following on Rumble increase by more than 100,000.

His livestream commemorating the death of Kirk was among his most watched by far, with over 2.5 million views. His livestream the following Monday discussing who was responsible for Kirk’s death also saw a higher-than-normal viewership. In the space of less than an hour, Fuentes earned over $5,500 from the top 50 Super Chat donations made by supporters…

Despite being suspended from most major social media platforms, last year Fuentes was reinstated on X by Musk, who wrote that he could stay on the platform “provided he does not violate the law, and let him be crushed by the comments and Community Notes.”

Rather than being crushed, Fuentes has seen his following skyrocket from 168,000 at the time his account was restored in May 2024, to almost 925,000 today.

Despite his growing influence within the GOP and the Trump administration, as well as his rapidly rising support among young white men in America, Fuentes has repeatedly said that in order for his movement to make an impact, it needs to operate in the shadows.

“No rallies, no protests, we don’t need to show everybody how many of us there are because the second that we do, they will identify, isolate, and destroy us,” Fuentes said on a recent livestream. “We want them to have no clue how many Groypers there are, where they are, who they are. We want them to be completely in the dark.”

Fuentes’ disdain for many of his supporters appears to have no impact on his popularity, but the 27-year-old is clear that what he refers to as the “grug-level” supporters are not what is needed in order for his movement to take control. Instead, Fuentes speaks about attracting “elite human capital,” supporters who will then become part of an “officer class” of “super intelligent, entrepreneurial” people.

“Once we get 1,000, 5,000 of those guys, those are going to be the party officials, party apparatics as an analogy,” Fuentes said. “I’m kind of interested in inspiring those people, indoctrinating those people. They watch a show, they get the ideas, they get the inspiration, they kind of take a project into their own hands.”
Great.

Fuentes certainly bears watching.

Other things I’m watching/reading:

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6 Comments

  1. Boris

    Great – we’re devolving into a ’39 version of Idiocracy, but with more violence.

  2. Feral Finster

    1. Wait, I thought Tyler Robinson was a far-left LGTBQXYZPDQ+ Antifa terrorist? He’s also now a groyper? Isn’t that kinda like being an atheist and a Muslin at the same time?

    2. “Now I view him as incompetent, corrupt and compromised.”

    I actually agree with Nick Fuentes on something. Go figure.

  3. bruce wilder

    tomorrow, October, the month of surprises and financial crashes is upon us.

    European war and financial catastrophe — are these interesting times?

  4. Jorge

    Yeah, was just thinking about this. The 20th century fascist/authoritarian movements were all built around a charismatic jerk, and fell apart when the guy died. T-bone is very very old. The grifters around him know the whole thing will fall apart when he dies or visibly fades out, and some are desperately wishing there will be a generational handoff. Kirk was one guy in the running; Stephen Miller seems to have thought the funeral was his moment to “Fly Like An Eagle”.

    It’s not my favorite horse race, but ya gotta handicap the horses in front of you.

  5. mago

    Thus have I heard. . . Never mind.
    Days of degeneration and decline.
    Necromancy and nihilism.
    Satanic inclinations here and there
    There’s a bad moon on the rise even if it’s just a reflection on the water.
    Make it solid make it real, reify this, make it all janky skanky and then get down with the realization that it’s just your mental fabrications.
    October is hear.

  6. Feral Finster

    @Jorge: I suspect that the various toadies comprising Trump’s entourage are hoping to be in a position to pick up the pieces when the old clown finally tips over.

    To be fair, Kamala played a similar role in the Biden regime, while Blinken et al tried to keep the old fool propped up for as long as possible so that they could continue to rule from behind the scenes.

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