During the Iraq War, we were fed very low death estimates:
- The Iraq War Death count had an upper estimate of 43,000 by the end of 2006.
- The Iraqi Ministry of health and the US armed forces (really the same thing) said about 20,000 by the end of 2005.
But when the Lancet did a population study in 2006 they came up with about 655,000, and in 2013 PLOS revised that number down to 461,000.
Either way the Iraq War Death count was about ten times too small. The official count was at least twenty times too small.
The Gaza Health Ministry’s death count is simply not credible, especially as it has risen more slowly over time, which is the opposite of what one would expect as water and food, medical services and supplies and shelter have all become radically rarer as the genocide has continued. It is surely an undercount. The indirect to direct-deaths ratio is also likely to be higher than in previous wars. The US deliberately hit a lot civilian infrastructure in Iraq and dismantled the economic supply networks which had kept Iraqis fed, but it wasn’t going all out to kill civilians or trying to demolish every building in Iraq.
We are also now into the early stages of a famine, and the amount of aid that Israel is letting in is pathetically small, plus in most cases to get it Palestinians have to risk being shot, and all accounts are that a few hundred Gazans do indeed get shot every day trying to get a few scraps food.
The last official death toll number from the Gaza Ministry of Health was 59,866. Multiply that by ten, and you have a death toll of 600K, and that’s a conservative estimate, and is before the worst of the famine hit.
This is genocide. It is entirely deliberate and being done with the aid of most of the Western world. We now know that our leaders, had they been Germans in the 30s and 40s, would have gone along with the Holocaust and in many cases, enthusiastically participated. We also know that most of our journalists would have provided cover, along with most of our pundits. (Yglesias is a good example as is almost everyone at the New York Times, BBC, Washington Post and so on.) Britain, Germany and America in particular have gone after anti-genocide activists hard.
Out entire elite class is not just OK with genocide, they’re onside and actively helping it.
If you think they wouldn’t do it to you, you’re in lalaland. They’ve proved they are OK with mass murder, and even if you’re white, don’t think it would save you. Look at Trump’s massive health care and food cuts, or Labour’s Starmer taking away aid from disabled people and cutting off heating for old folks, not to mention both being completely callous towards the exploding number of homeless people. In America far more homes are empty than there are homeless people, yet all the vast majority of politicians do is criminalize homelessness more and more.
You aren’t even the dirt beneath your elites’ fingertips. The only reason you aren’t Soylent Green yet is they haven’t been able to figure out how to make it pay. But your deaths mean nothing to them if they have any reason to kill you, no matter how slight. Your suffering isn’t a consideration either. They’ve spent 50 years systematically reducing pensions, health care and increasing poverty so they could make themselves richer.
You’re just sheep. They’ll sheer you as long as they can, and when they have any reason to, they’ll slaughter you.
And not only won’t they lose any sleep over hurting and eventually killing you, they’ll feel good about doing so.
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Feral Finster
“The Gaza Health Ministry’s death count is simply not credible, especially as it has risen more slowly over time, which is the opposite of what one would expect as water and food, medical services and supplies and shelter have all become radically rarer as the genocide has continued.”
IIRC, the Gaza Health Ministry only counts medically confirmed deaths of persons who can be positively identified.
So, if an Israeli bomb hits a civilian house packed with people, any bodies not taken to a hospital (what hospital?) and identified didn’t really die.
Otherwise, this article merely confirms what has already been obvious for a long time, now. Even humans should get it.
Feral Finster
I should have added that The Powers That Be could not care less about releases such as this one. They already got the war they so craved, A similar dynamic can be seen about the revelation that, oops! Turns out Iraq was not in fact chock-a-block with WMDs.
The architects of that war continue to be haled as Serious Thinkers And Foreign Policy Heavyweights. From their perspective, the war was entirely successful – Iraq was reduced to a failed state, and if took lies and genocide to get there, so what? Bush and Blair continue to swan about, gliding from Davos meetup to bigwig conference to high profile discussion panel, as free as birds.
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I would like to take this moment to thank, nay praise, President Donald Trump for his generous $60 million food-aid gift he bequeathed the Palestinians. He doesn’t get enough credit and people without fail always overlook his humble and heart-felt humanitarianism. Thank you President Trump and god bless your magnanimous and beneficent heart.
Jan Wiklund
It seems that the notion of deliberate genocide is slipping in, even into the mainstream media. At least in France, where La Dépêche, the main newspaper of the southwest, had a huge photo on page 1, with an accompanying text about deliberate starvation on the part of the Israeli government. The p1 intro was followed up on p2-3.
Let’s see if the tide turns. It is impossible to combat all the outlets that spread the news of the horror. Not that the elites are nice, but they don’t want to look like idiots.
mago
It takes little reasoning to figure out that Gaza death tolls are inaccurate. As FF notes, no body, no death. There are other variables at play, but the figure of 600k is probably closer to the mark and may even be an undercount. It’s unlikely we’ll ever know the truth (about anything).
On another note the callousness and cruelty of our ruling class has been well remarked upon, but that cruelty is kicking into overdrive. Trump just signed a bill, an order, something, that now defines homelessness as caused by mental illness and drug abuse. Talk about confusing cause and effect.
Everyday brings increased madness everywhere you look, although I confess that the view from my window is spectacular and uncommon. Still, I have to live in the world like everyone else. I just have the good fortune to live in a place of great beauty.
Speaking of which, when I lived in tropical beach towns or mountain resort communities, a common response to how are you doing? was it’s another day in paradise. I’d just smile, thinking there’s mo end to delusions.
Feral Finster
BTW, I can tell you why it’s suddenly acceptable to mention Israeli genocide in Gaza, and the reason is Epstein.
The conventional wisdom is that Trump is prominently named in the Epstein Files, and that if those files are made public, Israeli sources (odious) and methods (even more odious) will be exposed, making a lot of prominent people look very bad in a way that nobody wants to be associated with. And you can bet your last dollar that Epstein is not the only one.
Note that Trump certainly does not act like a man who has nothing to hide. In fact, watching his frantic attempts at deflection (“Look, over there! Squirrel!”) has quite the opposite effect.
Did not Tom Wolfe teach the masses that there is no point in being more than fifteen minutes ahead of the times?
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The elites have been stealth slow-killing the majority for some time now. If people were to think of it as Operation Long Jackpot or Jackpot Design Engineering, they might see the reality better. The elite is working to create conditions designed to kill off about 7 billion people over the next 100 years, slowly enough and in seemingly-separate-and-unrelated-enough batches, that the majority onlookers and experiencers will think it is just fate, accidents, inevitable diseases, etc.
The only sense they could be said to be doing it for profit is in the sense that ” this earth ain’t big enough for the two of us”. They want us all dead because they feel that we spoil the view and louse up the ambience. Preserving the view and the ambience is enough for them.
But hope springs eternal and here is where I place my hope: they won’t try to kill us all individually except in situations where they decide to Groznify, Gazafy and Sudanify us. Otherwise, they will trust that the Selection Matrix Forcefield they are building all around us will kill most of us. So those who can figure out how to survive “death by selection” might be able to survive the Long Jackpot. Not all of us , just some of us.
The Overclass might even be waiting on the other side of the Valley of Selection, so that those of us who survive the Long Death March through the Valley of Selection might even be given a cheap little watch by those Overclass people watching and laughing at how few of us will come out the other side of the Valley of Selection.
They might even give us a tin watch and a participation trophy. ” Here’s your tin watch and here’s your participation trophy and thank you for playing.”
Sometimes in meat space I ask people to consider the following question: ” If the Global Overclass wanted to kill 7 billion people over the next hundred years and make it look like an accident, how would they do it?”
The weekly Open Thread might be the place for people to offer thoughts and information on how to perhaps survive Operation Long Jackpot, pass through all the Darwin Filters and survive Humanity’s Long Death March through the Valley of Selection. Tony Wikrent’s Sunday Wrap might be the place to offer thoughts, hopes and dreams of how to exterminate the Overclass and how to exterminate their supporters and assistants within the One Per Cent.
different clue
Here’s a little video example of some freely chosen interhuman upliftingness. Some people sometimes doing this for eachother might also be an ingredient in some people co-surviving the Long Death March together.
https://www.reddit.com/r/justgalsbeingchicks/comments/1mc401z/i_thought_it_should_be_here/