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  1. Curt Kastens

    Hurray an open thread,
    Now I can repeat something that I wrote about a couple weeks ago that I think no one saw because it came so late in the open thread season.
    I was really really pissed off when the US government blew up the Nordstream pipeline and caused my winter heating costs to go up 400 or 500 %. But more recently I have learned things that make me take that in stride. First of all I learned that house insurance in Germany, at least for now is way way below what it is in the USA. I imagine that there is quite a bit of variation in costs for house insurance in the USA but I pay 300% less than family members in MInnesota. And my property tax rates are way way lower than property tax rates in Minnesota. These two things alone are way more than my winter heating bill.
    OK the price of gasoline is double in Germany compared to the US. But European cars are much smaller and Europeans do not have to travel as far to get where they need to go. So Germans probably spend less on transportation. Then sales taxes are much higher in Germany. But despite that prices for food and consumer products are not higher in Germany. Food is now actually cheaper and when I moved go Germany in 1996 food was more expensive except for dairy products.
    Health care bills are much lower in Germany, There is no college tuition. Though college is still usually a costly undertaking because people need to pay room and board and defer getting a paid job for several years longer than someone who goes to trade school.
    Houses cost more to purchase in Germany. But the house that you buy is really a house not some kind of toothpick structure with cotton stuffed in between the toothpicks, covered in chalk.
    Now if we can only break free of our colonial chains I wonder if the Russians will understand that many Germans were never on the side of NATO and those that were, were tricked. It may also be to late to rebuild German bridges to Russia as the Chinese may not allow that to happen. But if it did the Germans could slide in to the collapse of industrial civilization with more Deutsch Marks than any of the other G-7 countries. No doubt about it.

  2. bruce wilder

    The Ukraine war is in a brief pause for Easter. Orthodox and Latin Easter are the same date this year, so Z cannot move dates like he did for Xmas.

    Russia continues to inch forward across a very broad front. Few sure signs of Russia ever being able to force a settlement, though the ratio in corpse exchanges favors Russia to a staggering degree. YouTube commenters on the kinetic war are forced to find ever more obscure, unpronounceable “settlements” and crossroads on the edge of the steppe.

    All the real action seems to be political and electoral, as the struggle to suppress “right-wing” parties, candidates and movements continue. In Germany, the AfD cannot be spoken of, but the Social Democrats, Germany’s oldest and several times largest Party now fading into extinction, returns to government. Romania won’t let the most popular candidate run, all the better to secure continued construction of the largest airbase Europe has ever hosted.

    More exciting still, Estonia leads a coalition of the willing toward a policy of closing the Baltic to Russian oil shipping. Let me know how that works out. I will be here in my lead-lined bunker.

    Britain seems willing to send troops, just as soon as they can free manpower from Birmingham rat patrol.

    And, Trump wonders why no one wants to negotiate for peace.

  3. mago

    The term security sector keeps popping up along with military intelligence (is that an oxymoron?).
    What that means is violent suppression of dissent rather than Linus’ blanket. (For those not born in the Fred Flintstone era, Linus was a character in the Peanuts comic strip who always carried his security blanket around and sucked his thumb).

    The so called security sector means the police, the military, intelligence agencies, etc. What a perversion of language. It’s all a 1984 redux these days.

    Ok. So I’ve been thinking about the tracking of dissidents and data storage on the same. One might think commenters on a relative obscure blog and the blogger himself might be flying under the radar, but I’m not so sure.

    A few years ago I think it was, I relayed the following anecdote here.

    Upon my return to the US after a couple of years in Europe the immigration dude who greeted me started asking questions while staring into a computer screen. The one question I remember is Did you ever live on Water Street? And alarms went off while I hemmed and hawed searching for an answer. I was like, well maybe it was in Seattle, I’ve lived in so many places I forget. And I kept trying to get a glimpse at the screen, but impossible of course.

    The dude put a marker in my passport and told me to go over to a nearby conveyer belt unit where a lone agent stood in attendance. Then he said, Welcome back to America, Mr Larsen. Didn’t sound sincere or friendly.

    At the nearby conveyor unit the agent opened my luggage and tossed each item contained therein one by one onto the belt while nonchalantly asking questions about where I’d been and what I’d been doing and what’s this anyway, holding up a package of nori seaweed. He went through everything and I spun tales, explaining how I was a chef who traveled through Europe doing culinary research, mixing truth with fiction. I had a knife case and other paraphernalia to back up my half truths and lies. (It was 1992 and you could still pack that stuff.)

    Finally he let me go, leaving me to repack my luggage.

    As I hurried down the concourse to make my connecting flight I kept thinking Water Street, Water Street, where did that come from? Then it hit me. It was the address I used to check into a Marin County motel in the late 80’s when I was looking for real estate for a friend who formerly employed me as a family prívate chef. He was what might be called a person of interest to the Feds.

    It was definitely a wtf moment. Also, my knees went weak when I recalled that I was carrying some Amsterdam hash in my pocket. Those were obviously easier days. Point being if they had me nailed like that 33 years ago when surveillance was primitive relative to today . . . Well, what to say?

    Better watch out where you go/ watch who you know/watch what you say/watch what you do/Big Brother’s watching you . . . (Lyrics from the band Spirit circa 67).

    Gawd, this account makes me sound like I’ve got a criminal mind. But no. On that score I’ll quote Bobby D:
    To live outside the law you must be honest.
    Cheers!

  4. someofparts

    C Kastens – “It may also be to late to rebuild German bridges to Russia as the Chinese may not allow that to happen.” I would be inclined to think China would welcome this, but I am no student of Chinese geopolitical thinking, so there may be considerations here that I don’t understand.

    B Wilder – I get the software that protects this computer from viruses, malware and such from a company in Romania. The credit union where I bank recently froze activity on the credit card I have with them because I was using it to pay for renewing my services from this company. Maybe there was some other issue with the company that caused this, but it did make me wonder if the action against my credit line was political.

    As for my own contribution to the open thread, here’s a link to a substack account I discovered recently and am really enjoying. This is the guy who said that Trump is threatening the world by putting a gun to his own head. (I hope I’m not the only one here who remembers Cleavon Little doing that in Blazing Saddles.)

    https://huabinoliver.substack.com/

  5. Curt Kastens

    And most Germans get 30 days of paid vacation a year. And most Germans get a nice Christmas bonus, most of the time. In recession years they wont get one. In Germany unions are supported not attacked.
    Despite these temporary advantages once the collapse of industrial civilization starts Germans will starve as fast as Americans. They may even die of heat stroke faster as Americans are much more likely to have air conditioned homes. Though those American air conditioners may be running sporadically once the electrical system goes down. But
    Americans are also much more likely to have a back up electrical generator at home, which might get them through one last hot summer with AC.

  6. GrimJim

    There were supposed to be massive protests against Trump today. Not even a whisper on mass media. I’ve not even seen any posts from active friends on Facebook.

    Did they not happen or has all news of them been shut down?

  7. chinese

    @mago
    this blog is not obscure at all, ian’s post was famous during occupy and digg days, then they took control of digg, people fled to reddit, then they took reddit, killed aaron

  8. Mark Level

    To Grim Jim– it looks like the “Resistance” rallies happened, were large and across the country– count on the Dem “Nice People for More War” NPR to cover them:
    https://www.npr.org/2025/04/19/nx-s1-5369483/anti-trump-protests-50501-tesla-takedown

    Ignore that “Tesla Takedown” is used in the URL; more widespread concerns about tariffs, loss of due process, Executive overreach were made. It wasn’t a bad story actually, they let at least 2 people slag on the Dimmie Party, basically asking where are they? and why do they not listen to us? Overdue questions.

  9. David w Farrell

    Biotechnology how close the human race is to a preliminary version of immortality and how that’s coloring world leaders particularly Trump’s thinking

  10. Bill H.

    GrimJim:
    Interesting question. There have been some stories reporting “huge mobs,” and claiming thousands of protestors in dozens of cities, but none have provided any actual counts, none have reported any violence or arrests and none, of course, have provided any pictures or video clips.

  11. ella

    The effing New York Times took notice of the protests. I guess a NYT society page editor was inconvenienced by a sign carrying malcontent and just couldn’t ignore it all.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/19/us/politics/trump-protests-nyc-florida-la.html?unlocked_article_code=1.BE8.LZVO.J9c_tZEQTjhS&smid=url-share

  12. Chuck Mire

    If Trump stood in a clue field; during clue mating season; in a field full of horny clues; was dressed as a clue; smeared his body with clue musk and pheromones; and did the clue mating dance,

    He STILL couldn’t get any clue to show him how the U.S. economy really works.

  13. bruce wilder

    I know we are all weirdly silo’d with regard to political news and views, but I saw reports of anti-Trump protests from the usual array of legacy news outlets yesterday. Pretty tepid cheerleading for “the resistance” is my subjective impression of these reports, for what little that is worth.

    Amidst all the handwringing over the non-existent “norms” of “our democracy”, I find myself coming back to Sheldon Wolin’s thesis to interpret what I see streaming continuously: “inverted totalitarianism”, a “fascism” powered by popular apathy and memory-less inattention thinly disguised by pointless performative exercises like street “protests” supplemented by carefully curated news story “parables” tendentiously providing a titrated dose of moralistic dopamine to prisoners of their cellphones. “Karmelo Anthony” or “Kilmar Abrego Garcia” seem less like continuing news stories than fast-food propaganda nuggets laced with toxic food dyes and sweeteners with no nutritional value.

    When I talk to people personally, most seem disinterested, confused and increasingly anxious. “What’s going on?” they ask me, the known news junkie from way back. They want me to sort it out for them, tell them who are “the good guys” and who is “right”.

    I say that I do not know. The mainstream media is inane. Integrity is absent; ideologies ritualized but not reflective. Nothing the political media report can be trusted; it is narrative, period. Ditto for what prominent politicians say or do. I explain sometimes that “this” (whatever “this” might be — immigration policy, trade and the dollar, Ukraine, the Mideast) has been a long time coming. The idea that any issue has a history of infinite regress, and politics is a game where the rules are negotiated thru the strategic moves of contending players are surprising notions to people with no political memory or education. Ironic when ignoramuses make so much noise about “norms”.

    It does feel a bit like the “calm before the storm”: that moment before the tsunami when the water ebbs away. People I talk to, though they know nothing, sense that much. It is outside my experience really. I expect a reaction to Trump within the U.S., but I do not see where it will come from. Certainly not from Democrats. Maybe from chaotic ruptures within the Republican coalition? Russiagate impeachments and Jan 6 played out so well — why wouldn’t we want Dems to lead a redux? Can history repeat a farce?

  14. GrimJim

    Welp, looks like our busted republic survives for another week or so, maybe.

    Either Trump did not have all his goosestepping ducks in a row to throw down with protestors, or his “family men” hidden amongst them was not able to turn peaceful protests into riots.

    There is almost nothing on the 50501 Protests on mainstream media. Rest assured, the moment it is top of the headlines everywhere is when they will be crushed.

    The Sword of Damocles dangles still…

  15. different clue

    Here is a post with a graph from the MurderedByWords subreddit, showing the danger of mistaking correlation for causation, in this case about vaccines and autism.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/1k3uv2b/correlation_something_something_causation/

  16. mago

    @ chinese. Yes, point well taken. I said relatively obscure in reference to the blogosphere universe which contains sites with hundreds of thousands of followers, not that I dwell in those constellations or could even name them.
    What I meant is even a church mouse dropping turds in the nave could be targeted and shot without discrimination in these times.
    Ten buen día.

  17. different clue

    @ Bruce Wilder,

    If people who know you are asking you for guidance on “good guys” and “bad guys” in these strange times, this is your big opportunity to recommend Ian Welsh’s blog to them. And maybe even Naked Capitalism too, if you feel like it.

    You could tell them that Ian Welsh is an information / analysis good guy. And they will get some information and guidance over time there. Maybe at Naked Capitalism too.

  18. elkern

    FB suspended my account a few days ago, with (of course) only vague , inconsistent, and blatantly false excuses for the suspension. In one case, it claimed I had ‘violated community standards’, with (of course) no details (which ‘standard’ I was supposed to have violated in which Comment). In another case, it implied that I was suspected of being a Bot or other non-human entity. I’m pretty sure that I’m Human, and I’m pretty sure that dozens of my friends (on FB and IRL) would agree with me, but maybe they’re all Robots too….

    None of that (above) is ‘news’. The surprising part – to me – is that it won’t even let me into their Appeal screen(s) until I provide them a video of my face…

    “Confirm your identity with a video selfie
    To make sure you’re a real person, we need you to record a video selfie. We’ll ask you to move your head during the recording to help us capture your face at different angles.”

    The least Orwellian explanation for this is that they are just gathering (random?) Facial Recognition data for resale. It seems more likely that I have been flagged as an Enemy (to whom?) and ‘they’ want to start tracking me IRL.

    I will NOT provide FB with any such Facial Recognition video, and have tried to tell it this, but there’s no indication that any humans in FB have even seen my complaints.

    Oh, a possibly relevant detail: shortly before FB locked me out, I had clicked through to Colleen Rowley’s Page, where I had expected to leave a Comment on some Post after reading the article she had linked. I think that Post was about Gaza, but I’m not sure.

    Has anyone else here had this problem (FB requiring Facial Video for continued use), or heard of others who have run into it? I can’t be the only person (I’m a low-value target); I assume that this is some new (and terrible) Policy.

    (Linguistic Note: I’m using the pronoun ‘it’ for FB now, rather than ‘they/them’, because it no longer appears that Humans are in control of it. I will probably wind up doing this for other large Corps using AI to minimize ‘labor costs’, and I hope that other People do this too.)

  19. Curt Kastens

    There are so many videos uploaded on youtube and on blogs about the geo politics. Yet 99.9% of them analyze geo politics with out taking in to account the most basic observations made by Brian Berletic of the New Atlas Youtube Channel. Even channels and blogs that have Brian Berletic on as a guest on their program often do not take Brian”s keen observations in to consideration when making their comments about what is going on in the inner workings of one government or another.
    With sloppy scholarship swamping decent observations by ten fold, is it any wonder that the masses never learn a thing?
    That is a rhetorical question.
    A similar situation exists with global warming. Very few writers on the subject want to factor in all of those things that enter in to the equation.
    Oh yes and when it comes to economics the situation is utterly different. Economic prognosticators are really on top of understanding how a collapsing biosphere and resource depletion are going affect economic outcomes.

  20. Curt Kastens

    Quat do Americans have that the Germans do not have?
    Aextra Toasty Cheez itz

  21. joey_n

    @ Curt Kastens,

    Regarding air conditioning and its absence in Europe, my understanding is limited to geographical and climactic differences – we all know how much of Germany is further up north than the continental US (which would make the climate hypothetically cooler…?), but I’m also told that the atmosphere in the US is more humid. Feel free to confirm, dispute or add to that.

    I’m with someofparts in his/her first paragraph. We can’t put all our eggs in one basket or get caught up into false dichotomies.

  22. Curt Kastens

    Joey,
    It is true in the past, rough;y before 1990 in my estimation, the northern Europeans did not need AC. But since then the number of really hot summer days has gone up. It will no doubt continue to get hotter in the summer. Unless, the Atlantic Ocean Current collapses.
    Germany is plenty humid in my estimation. As humid as Michigan or Wisconsin or Minnesota.

  23. different clue

    Here is a funny video for relief in these unfunny times, titled I’ve Nothing To Say.

    the link.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/1k76d4z/ive_nothing_to_say/

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