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The Congressional Shooting and Political Violence

2017 June 15

Alright, so someone took a shot at Congressional Republicans and killed no one, though one Congressperson was injured badly.

I find that I am unable to care about this. No one died (because they had police protection).

However, there is a great deal of stupidity and hypocrisy floating around about this. Let us start with the hypocrisy.

So, it happens to people they know, without anyone even dying, and they’re all breaking up in tears. As someone else said, did they cry for Sandy Hook or Pulse? To hell with them, especially as they belong to the class with the most responsibility for mass shootings.

Now, to the stupidity from my favorite highly-educated idiot:

I usually don’t talk about anything Ezra says, because his entire career has been about sucking up to those in power.  But, well, this is a teaching moment.

Here’s a lovely chart:

Isn’t that a wonderful chart?

What do you think happened to suddenly raise the incarceration rate?

Right…the War on (some) Drugs.

So, something that wasn’t illegal became illegal. Making it illegal didn’t reduce its use, but did make using it much more unsafe.

What happens in prisons? Well, a lot of violence, including a lot of rape.

Is that political violence? Well, it wouldn’t have happened if politicians hadn’t made a decision to make something legal, illegal, which increased harm to everyone and didn’t make the situation any better.

That is political violence.

Of course there is also non-domestic political violence—like Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Libya, and so on. A lot of people died due to those entirely political decisions. Not one of those countries attacked the US. Not one.

But now “real people” have been attacked, and they are in tears. They had no tears for dead children.

But they have tears for themselves.

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115 Responses
  1. realitychecker permalink
    June 17, 2017

    Dead issue?

    Instead of “Lefty Goes Postal” the headlines this weekend look more like “Guns Still Bad and Trump Made A Lefty Kill A Guy.”


  2. Peter permalink
    June 17, 2017

    The snowflakes got no traction from their gun control mewing so the spinning began. Blame the victim by projecting that Trump and Palin are the killer influences. Huffington Post, or what’s left of it, is reporting that one Trump supporter ‘Stormed ‘and shut down the Julius Caesar play while another shouted Nazis. That’s all it takes to scatter the snowflakes, two people?

    I am surprised how well behaved even disciplined the Deplorables have been during this rolling coup attempt. We may see that change at the next large gathering of the resistance.

  3. Hugh permalink
    June 18, 2017

    I am tired of the canned GUNZ is good blather. Give me an argument. Cite me some facts. But this brain dead cant is wearing. If guns empowered you or protected you, the powers that be would make them illegal. But they don’t because guns don’t. They just make you more afraid and more stupid.

  4. realitychecker permalink
    June 19, 2017

    @ Hugh

    Sounds like you think criminal predators should be free to violate the citizenry without fear.

    Have you EVER been exposed to criminal violence?

    If so, did you like being helpless?

    What is your answer to those who do not wish to feel helpless?

  5. realitychecker permalink
    June 19, 2017

    BTW, Hugh, the “GUNZ IS EVIL” blather is just as tiring to those of us who have dealt with the fact of violence in the real world.

    Do you have any answer at all for the weak who wish to be able to go outside without making themselves into helpless predator prey, relying on luck to get them home unviolated?

    If you don’t, then you might as well just be honest and say, “Fuck ’em.”

  6. hvd permalink
    June 19, 2017

    Rc – it might be helpful if you had any statistics on crime being prevented by the use of guns.

    Otherwise you are just making noise.

    I have twice been the victim of crimes one of which involved a knife, the other a gun, in NYC. A gun would have been useless in either situation and would probably have resulted in my death. I fared far better using my wits – walking away unscathed both times and with my property.

    Nevertheless it is clear that we live in the safest of times. Your arguments are those of a coward. And you the great revolutionary.

    If on the other hand you were arguing for disbanding all police forces and leaving defense of self and property to each of us individually that perhaps would be interesting.

  7. realitychecker permalink
    June 19, 2017

    @ hvd

    I really hate when I get scornful comments from the clearly ignorant.

    Do you even know that the courts have ruled that the police have no duty to protect you?

    Do you think that your own limited experience, where you got LUCKY, is sufficient to define the destinies of everybody else?

    Do you think you are actually going to be seeing LESS violent crime going forward from here?

    You are a sheep, just waiting to be taken by a wolf. Telling yourself that there is no wolf, can’t be, because you haven’t been eaten yet.

    If the wolf comes at me, I am prepared to make sure that HE is the one that dies.

    I prefer my way.

  8. hvd permalink
    June 19, 2017

    RC –

    I assume you are referring to a part of the doctrine of sovereign immunity that protects to a lesser or greater degree, public officials from tort liability. This proves what?

    You are the craven one. Poor pathetic you surrounded on all sides by hideous never relenting danger. I hope at the least you have an uzi or a howitzer.

    How about proof other than your own inordinate fear? It is interesting to me how you, the raver about revolution and consent of the governed, dismiss because of your own personal cowardice the clear support of the majority of Americans for reasonable restrictions on the ownership of firearms.

    I guess the only reality you have any actual connection with is your own internal quiverings. I have been trying to put my finger on what it is exactly that best describes your repeated bullying behavior here and total inability to put forth a consistent world view and have finally decided that you are a chicken hawk.

  9. realitychecker permalink
    June 19, 2017

    @ hvd

    Your idiotic words do not a reality make.

    Don’t worry, I don’t give a fuck what you think, or what matters to you, for that matter.

    Neither does anybody else. 🙂

  10. Ultra permalink
    June 19, 2017

    Peter: “Callous disregard for any shooting victims mixed with commie whataboutism while kindling the fires of hate is not a display of liberal enlightenment…”

    The French Revolution was one of the consequences of the liberal enlightenment. The Communists didn’t invent violent revolution; they copied it.

  11. Ultra permalink
    June 19, 2017

    Ezra Klein: “It’s easy to forget what a blessing it is to live in a country where politics rarely leads to violence, and how fragile that blessing is.”

    American culture has a long and distinguished history of engaging in both overt and covert forms of violence. Like many middle- to upper-class Americans, Ezra is unable to perceive reality beyond his precious little bubble.

  12. realitychecker permalink
    June 20, 2017

    @ hvd

    Your ignorance is really astounding; violent crime rates have been climbing dramatically the last few years, your “safe streets” reflect a comparison to the early 1990’s, not the recent past.

    Home invasions are one of the fastest growing categories of violent crime.

    Go to the FBI website if you need confirmation of these widely known facts.

    Hard times = more crime. It ain’t that difficult to figure out, unless one has blinders on. We have only hard times ahead. That is also not hard to figure out.

    When push comes to shove, IF push comes to shove, you will wish you had a gun to defend yourself, your family, and others. Until then, your ad hominem bleatings are nothing more than that.

    You are free to bathe in delusions and denial until reality comes along and educates you.

    What a country!

  13. hvd permalink
    June 20, 2017

    Why when I respond in kind to RC the great revolutionary and coward by pointing out the fact that he is quick to take up arms against victims of our system that creates hard times, but never once dares to actually argue that the second amendment if it has any value at all with respect to an individual right to maintain arms gains that validity with respect to a protection not from the disadvantaged but against oppression, is my comment deleted?

    Is it because I called him for his babbling or is it because I suggested that he clean his pants of the coward’s stain?

  14. Peter permalink
    June 20, 2017


    Some people today may share the agendas of the French head-choppers of yesterday but they both seem to have missed the lecture on enlightenment. These are damaged minds looking to inflict mayhem into society for their own personal grievances or group agenda.

  15. realitychecker permalink
    June 21, 2017

    @ hvd

    It’s probably because your ignorance makes you an embarrassment to the site.

    BTW, I have intervened to save two innocents from violent street felonies, one a man, one a woman, and without a gun.

    One time from a guy who could have beat me up easily, the other time from three attackers.

    Coward? Really?

    You who are afraid of new ideas are the real coward.

    Also btw–self-defense was, and is, a universal natural concept. It does not need a constitutional amendment to justify itself. Moron.

    Also btw–you seem to have concluded I favor a revolution without having a discussion about it.

    Wrong. I want to have the discussion to refine my own views, by testing my thoughts against other intelligent people.. But you and others here are afraid to even have the discussion. Cowards?

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