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Week-end Wrap – Political Economy – April 25, 2021


  1. Ven

    This is superb reporting – the way that none of our journalists seem to know how to do these days – pursuing the cover up of the falsified OPCW report on Douma that enabled the US / UK / France to bomb Syria.

    So everything a western government or media outlet says about an official enemy is probably a lie.

  2. Astrid

    Yeah, the Gray Zone has been doing sterling work. It’s a little shocking to find out exactly how dishonest those in government and media are. They may even make propaganda organs of USSR and China look good by comparison. Trust that took generations to build up will be expended soon, then all hell may break loose. At this point, that might even be a best case scenario for the rest of the world.

  3. bruce wilder

    I am not sure the Trust that was built up by the Progressives and the New Dealers was entirely deserved, but at least they thought there was enough value in being believed that it was worth considering the cost of lying. They may have been manipulative — that is always the motivation for official lying, power and control. But, they were sincere. The power of lying is an illusion of course; lose track of reality and control is lost anyway. Now I think the players do not even recognize it as lying — it is all pure b.s. and the truth simply does not matter. The prize goes to the one with the best story, and “best” does not require correspondence with fact. Sincerity? If you can fake that, you’ve got it made!

  4. bruce wilder

    It ought to be emphasized more than the GreyZone report does, that the OPCW as an institution was designed specifically to be credible and to maintain its integrity so as to be useful in enforcing prohibitions on the use of chemical weapons. This is not a case of casual lying. It was necessary to basically destroy the institution and make it not fit to purpose, in order to pursue a dubious and incoherent policy of attacking and overthrowing Assad’s regime (with no real idea of an alternative to chaos).

  5. Hugh

    What is the difference between a permanently failing police state and chaos?

  6. Ché Pasa

    So this time, this time police “reform” will really and truly happen just as George Floyd sacrificed his life to ensure.

    Maybe this time!

  7. bruce wilder

    What is the difference between a permanently failing police state and chaos?

    If you have to ask, you don’t live there.

    But, whatever Hugh does not know, he wants to bomb it.

  8. bruce wilder

    So this time, this time police “reform” will really and truly happen . . .

    It was one bad cop and he was convicted. The system worked. What needs reform? Nothing.

    (for the clueless, this exchange was dripping with sarcasm and irony from both parties)

  9. Hugh

    bruce wilder, thanks for showing me that when you don’t have an argument you just throw poop instead.

  10. someofparts

    Well, turns out that mining bitcoin uses prodigious amounts of power, the opposite of going green. Would be great to see people start to complain about this, but I’m not holding my breath.

    One of the odd things about becoming a geezer is that more than half of my boomer cohort are not online at home. Now that they have retired from jobs that provided email, they aren’t interested in having it at home. In practice, this means that television and radio are their only sources of news, and it shows, and not in a good way.

  11. Ven

    Bruce – if you watch the Grayzone video to the end, it has an interview clip with the first – the first! – Director General of the OPCW, where Bolton essentially made a threat against his children, in the event that he did not resign (because he had not gone along with the chemical weapons story in Iraq). So the OPCW was pretty much corrupted from the start.

  12. Plague Species

    Replacement, not reform. A new policing paradigm is necessary but WILL NEVER be forthcoming.

  13. I was shocked to find out, about a week ago, that my vitamin D level was more than 50% lower than 6 months ago, even though I’d increased my dosage by 50%. I did that because my levels were low 6 months ago, by the holistic standard of my dentist.

    Living in NJ, I stopped my sunbathing when it started getting cold. My assumption is that sunlight was keeping me much safer than my vitamin D pills.

    I was advised to change my brand of vitamin D. The Big Cheese at the holistic dental office I go to uses quicksilverscientific, which uses fancy shmancy liposomal and micelle delivery systems. They’re kind of pricey, but I figure it’s cheaper than dying. They also warned me that not everybody gets results from quicksilver scientific products, either.

    So, Florida looms larger in my mind…

  14. bruce wilder

    @ Ven

    I did not watch to end — sorry I missed that.

    But, it goes to my point, which depends on knowing how the institution was elaborately structured to maintain integrity and credibility and, still, powerful people like Bolton discard all ethics to pursue mad plans and freely destroy institutions deliberately designed for integrity and credibility.

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