Americans Have Found the Enemy, and It Is They

Media loves to fixate on middle-aged and older white guys in these things, but disaffected single white dudes 18-35 with a high school education are the breeding ground for violent anti-government movements around the world.

Doesn’t matter whether left or right. Yeah, they’re suckers but when they look at their immediate future, they don’t see much. Their female peers are more educated and employed, less likely to stick around the rural areas and small towns waiting for these guys to prove up.

Watch them closely. Lots of Proud Boy/Oath Keeper talk about being back Jan. 19th & 20th. You thought 2020 sucked…

Even if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Is there a doctor in the house? Geddy ate some bad Canadian rock bass.

@Thomas Golladay

I’ve actually already passed on, but I appreciate your candor. It’s obvious you care greatly about the more vulnerable among us. I’d expect nothing less from a doctor. Thank you.

I hope Trump pardons all of them. He’s the president and he invited them down on a MAGA protest mission and then he and Speed Fiend Giuliani, who was inflaming the crowd with calls of “trial by combat“, incited them to storm Capitol Hill. So they did. They did as they were told to do. By the president! It never would have happened otherwise.

They get themselves a good lawyer and a fair judge and they might even be found innocent in court.

D: My clients did as they were told to by the U.S. President and his spokesperson Rudy Giuliani.

P: But they defied the orders of the cops.

D: But who has more authority, the president or the cops?

P: The law has the final authority. That’s what has the final say.

D: But the president has the power to kill U.S. citizens without trial, there’s been precedent for that, so doesn’t that ultimately make the president’s power supreme?

Z

Neil Peart,

I am a Critical Care Paramedic with additional protocols due to the Pandemic stopping my Medical Studies.

It is what it is.

Synchronicity?

I had to force uninstall node from my computer, and it went ahead and did it’s thing. However, it sent me the warning “I sure hope you know what you are doing” while it was running.

I did this while listening to Jeffrey Prather, some intel military guy. In his latest program, from today, he’s apparently claiming that the conflict between black hats and white hats will go kinetic, which he has been hoping would not happen.

I agree with him that the Washington ‘riot’ had false flag elements. I’ve seen the video of the woman that was shot, and it looked completely deliberate. An execution.

He made the claim that POTUS is not in Washington. Does anybody know if this is true?

So the next time a megalomaniacal narcissist comes round we’ll know what to do. Handy tip #1 for next time: Don’t let a buncha piled up furniture stop you at the door.

Now what concerns me, is that these capitol invaders were all conservatives mostly looking to prevent “socialism”. I’m concerned since you know, most of us here are open to at least a little socialism. Should our own insurrection force have a stylish leader like that horned painted Qanon shaman dude? (…but smarter) I get the feeling he might be sharing a prison bunk with a huge BLM guy, minus the horns, as demanded by some PTB wanting to send a message to the other seditionists out there. Fun times ahead for our horned friend. We’ll need to be smarter than that.

Would it be possible to redirect all that antisocialist authoritarian Trump-lover angst in a more intelligent direction?

Me, I’d be happy if social problems were solved the old-fashioned way, with actual small gov. libertarians on the one side and actual bigger gov. progressives on the other, duking it out with actual facts-based logic and debate rules. Kinda the way we did back in high school. Would that be too hard?

MAGA Commander-In-Chief Trump,

The core reason they stormed Capitol Hill was because they feared if they didn’t they’d be executed by you for treason.

Z

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLgbbnxumS4&ab_channel=scottsdalestudios

From a few days ago, but the reckoning is coming. Democrats who insist on throwing fuel on the fire because they suffered a mild riot that inconvenienced them and not small business owners whose businesses were destroyed by BLM protests they incited, are hypocritical.

But again truth no longer matters. So be it. The world will be safer if the US implodes. Let the Establishment Assholes and their Useful Idiots kill each other. When the last two mutually knife each other to death, clear the corpses and start over with more rational people you can have an adult conversation with.

The tragedy of our time is that we know what many of the problems are and even what to do about them, and then we don’t do it. I got into blogging because of my reaction to the Iraq War. There were people who knew the region, the culture, divisions. There were people who understood the strategic and political reasons for going to war. There were people who knew how to wage a successful war. And there were those who knew what we could and could not do in its aftermath. And we, or the Bush Administration, or our political-military establishment didn’t listen to any of them. So we got lied into a war fought in an amazingly unstrategic way, followed by a brainless occupation. Sure if we had had any sense we would not have gone there at all, but it was more than that. It was knowing what not to do at every step and doing it anyway. That was not the first example in our history of what I call no-think, but it was a text book case of it.

But now it’s like standard operating procedure. These are the public health measures you take during a pandemic? OK, let’s just forget about them or only do some of them, partially, in a fragmented fashion, or totally ignored so as to render them useless. Economic consequences? Too little, too late sounds about right. Vaccines? Wait, you actually have to organize their distribution? Who knew? Got a Capitol to protect? Let’s split it up between about 20 different agencies and put a remarkably unaware cop coasting to retirement in charge. I mean what could go wrong?

Practically every day we get a new instance. But as bad as it is in the US, it’s not like the rest of the world is doing things right. Europe is a series of fracture lines and the EU’s second biggest economy just opted out of it. China is falling back into same imperial mistakes it’s made over the last 25 centuries. And climate change and overpopulation continue to hang over us all.

a sensible comment from Hugh. I must lie down now.

The attack yesterday was absolutely not a false flag, that’s just yet more right-wing bullshit.

https://www.twitter.com/nathanTbernard/status/1346959100794474498

Insightful piece as always. I very much appreciate that Ian doesn’t go the our-democracy-is-in-peril-chest-thumping-virtue-signaling route that many are taking. The thing that astounds me is how ill advised the whole show-up-at-the-capitol move was. What did they realistically expect to achieve? What they did achieve was giving the Biden presidency a legitimacy that they said they were there to protest.

The Mayor refused offers of unarmed National Guard to boost security.

I have observed that Golladay’s take often entails one or two bizarro factoids that are exactly opposite to reality. I am not talking about interpretations at variance with the slant taken by, say, CNN, which has become itself extremely careless of objectivity or accuracy. I have been noticing instances of getting facts, not interpretation, exactly wrong to support his preferred narrative. It is disturbing.

I too have noticed a pronounced predilection to prevarication.

Machine-like, tho, in its language, as if it were a Turing, an automaton.

Well…. don’t know for sure, but maybe the reason why Trump came up from the WH bunker long enough to tell his beloved fans that they would pay for the little dust up at the Capitol was because somebody told him that several of the Capitol Police were in critical condition and one was about to die — and did die — from his injuries. Caused by his fans.

So let’s get on with a smooth and peaceful transition, m’kay?

Sheesh, big problem. A lot of Rs and Trump were treating it like a lark, big fun at the expense of the politically correct weaklings , blah, blah even though someone had already died, well four had died, but oh well. However, when it’s a cop who’s died from injuries sustained in the riot (hit on the head with a fire extinguisher?), guess what? No longer fun. It can be charged as murder, and everyone involved in inciting and/or participating in the riot could be charged with murder, not just whoever did it. That includes Trump and his (still) many sycophants. And I assume someone told him and them. The 180 he did won’t be enough to save him — or them — but prosecutorial discretion and all that will probably keep them out of too much prison time.

This is the kind of bad shit that some were warning would come if he wasn’t stopped, and he wasn’t and it came. Now what? The Dems in Congress are pathetic, I’m sorry. They are locked in behaviors of a different era and they simply can’t handle something like this. Threatening impeachment? Come on. Yelling at Pence to do something? No, not gonna happen. The faction of the ruling class they serve is bewildered and terrified. Whoever thought things would get to this point? Who could have known?

A lot of us did. And said so. And so it’s here, and no one knows what to do, and the wheels are spinning.

Reconciliation? Healing?

Sure. Why not?

Could this have happened if those that did it stuck to the media diet we had before social media?

I suspect the answer is “No”, I think you really need to swim in political rhetoric and have it routinely reinforced by peers.

To be clear, I am not blaming this on social media, I am just thinking about its role in this.

I am also thinking about Robert Putnam’s book “Bowling Alone” and how online groups have filled the void left by real life community.

Our rulers are trying to ruin Hawley over this and lay the responsibility for the citizens’ taking of Capitol Hill on him. I believe it is completely understandable that he didn’t foresee his actions of making an election challenge and waving at some protestors would play a role in this haphazard insurrection to take Capitol Hill, which was something that never happened before. The responsibility for it primarily lies with Trump and Giuliani.

Z

we have a total reinforcement of Goodthink/Wrongthink.

Dems go onto social media to trumpet that this is the result of Putin, much like the penultimate election’s results, which is an acceptable conspiracy theory that they have double-quadruple-millionth timed reaffirmed over the past four years.

but social media/internet “brainwashed” citizens are engaging in Wrongthink to believe the last one is fishy.

then the former will be joined by the Repubs in censoring the internet of its wrongthink. what is next, reeducation camps?
even the supposed “real” Left is falling down on this.

I think Trump may have finally learned his lesson after inciting the Capitol Hill riot. Why here’s a new tweet from him just coming in . . . . .

“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”

OK, maybe not. Apparently it’s fine to riot and attack the Capitol if you are a great Trump-supporting American Patriot.

bruce wilder ,

I was referring specifically to Capitol Building security. Your ability to parse my writing is lacking.

The Guard offered thousands of troops to help in security. The mayor turned it down for a few hundred to do traffic control far from the building. Trump had to order troops in.

Bear in mind, people were posting attacking the Capitol on twitter for weeks. Tucker Carlson even pointed out Fox News was able to find these posts in seconds. They’re a news agency with nowhere near the computing and surveillance powers of the Intelligence Agencies or the FBI.

But whatever, carry on.

@CDP

Define military victory. TPTB have enriched themselves at the expense of the majority of the population for decades. That may not seem like a victory to you, but rest assured TPTB don’t feel like losers. Things have generally gone according to their plans. Counting wins and losses is for the hoi polloi. New realities are being created while people continue to try to understand, and inevitably argue about, the past. In this sense, TPTB are always victorious.

Lefty, you’ll find no disagreement with me here. The losing enterprise of war, or rather the non-winning perpetual enterprise of war has been a boon to the carrion eaters.

But I think TPTB drank mightily past the point of intoxication when they won the Cold War and ended history; unfortunately reality is always sobering. Sure, they can still clip a 2.73% dividend yield with their Raytheon stock; but only because the Fed did with “money” what the Skull and Bones boys do during initiation, made an elephant walk of it. And again reality, in this case in the form of the pandemic, can’t be overcome.

America thought broke its first historical maxim by seemingly making war a profitable enterprise (albeit by accounting gimmicks). It defied history again, by not being able to spend its way to victory (as you pointed out because victory wasn’t the point). And now the exceptional men that run the exceptional nation, run afoul of the inevitable a third time, trying to cure a disease by printing money.

This isn’t to argue for sound money, or against mmt, or any such thing. Rather that you are correct in pointing out that TPTB have profited from war. But without actual victory, that profit is illusory.

Oh, the hypocrisy of it all…

For example:

1] a. The 2016 election required an investigation that lasted 3.5 years. [With a comment approval rating north of 95%]. Millions spent with 0.0 evidence being produced..unless you count the bullshit story of $20,000 spent on “divisive” ads as a big swinger in the election…

1] b. The 2020 election required an investigation that lasted…oops…no investigation allowed. [With a comment approval rating north of 95%]. Numerical impossibilities everywhere anyone cared to look…but ah..get over it..we need to move forward!

2] a. NeoD organized protests of the 2016 election followed Hillary’s loss. Four solid years of protests sanctioned by neoDs, media, 3-letter agencies and even health agencies during SARS II. Violence that led to at least 27 deaths [conservatively estimated] and millions upon millions in damages. Some arrested, almost all released without charges [With a comment approval rating north of 95%].

2] b. But when Trump protests an unarmed woman who was no threat is blindly shot in the neck [to a comment approval rating north of 95%] and Cop is injured, returns to his office where he dies hours later and Trump calls for a murder investigation. And no one here can see any asymmetry.

3] a. NeoD’s claim that Trump is responsible for every single SARS II death, see [Hugh/Willey/10-Fluffy-Feathers comments for those DNC talking points]. To this day no prophylactic or early treatment is offered/allowed by NHI/CDC/AMA* even though we know from SARS I that many effective treatment were available*. Compounds such as Ivermectin, which has an incredibly strong correlation to resistance and disease reduction of SARS II /SARS I…[where it has been allowed to be used]. And finally, hydroxychloroquine**. Before the election, Trump’s efforts to secure a vaccine were laughed at, his claim that it would be ready by the end of 2020 was mocked, media and their followers here who comment talked about how dangerous the vaccine would be [With a comment approval rating north of 95%].

[and this needs special mention] Ian talked about how much worse it was in the USA without noting that destination air travel in the USA is almost the rest of the world combined…and twice that, after China shut incoming and internal air traffic. The single biggest factor in the worldwide spread of the disease and the entire nation [including FOX] and not one “thought leader” could think to mention it. Trump’s efforts to shutdown air travel were universally denigrated by neoD’s [With a comment approval rating north of 95%].

3] b. Once Biden was elected, the following week, the vaccine was announced by people who had only two weeks before claimed late spring, early summer as the release date, officials who derided Trump’s vaccine efforts shoved their way to the front of the line depriving 1st responders and elderly their chance at an early vaccine. Disgusting, particularly Alexandria Cortez’s abuse of power in shoving more deserving people aside. Based on her age group she should be one of the last…but hey, she has always been a privileged child and that her commie talk is for guileless plebeians. While neoD’s had derided Trump’s efforts to shutdown air travel, first for being racist, or ridiculous, then later when it was clear it was the right thing to do, the neoD’s morphed their story to “it wasn’t effective enough”.

The hypocrisy of the last four years culminating in the current commentary reeks and shows a complete lack of self-awareness and presumes that people lack the mental capacity to remember what somebody said; something people with a misplaced sense of superiority often do.

*[Indeed, I predicted here and in an email that Ian was on that SARS II would decline during the late spring and summer sunlight and return in the fall based on research of seasonal vitamin D levels in people.] This pattern demonstrates that the virus is vulnerable to effect EARLY TREATMENT. Thanks to the neoDs mantra of “politics is job #1” tens/hundreds of thousands have died and still will die until Biden’s “Task Force” discovers these dirt cheap treatments. It’ll be very-dark-humor to watch the media fawn over a group of individuals who led the nation’s single largest murdering spree for political advantage.

**The AMA, they took many useful compounds off their banned list late 30 Oct, Friday afternoon before the election including…wait for it..hydroxychloroquine. Gotta chuckle at that, the utter hypocrisy.

Any guesses on Speed Queen Nancy P’s laptop password?

$IceCreamQueen$

the first name and last four digits of her Adderall enabling doctor’s office phone number

$IheartRahm$

$AOCcaneatme$

$Whisper$weet$tockTips$

Z

Z’s comments get left up and mine are taken down? See, I told you Leslie, I told you, he’s treating me differently, everybody knows it, he’s treating me differently, and you don’t even see it, it’s right in front of you Leslie, and you don’t even see it. What this Ian is doing is anti-American, it’s anti-American, and we can’t have it, we can’t, and we won’t have it, we won’t, not on my watch.

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This incident could come back to bite Hawley when he runs for reelection or the presidency, but I don’t think it will hurt him significantly if he stays with his populist messaging. That would include siding with Sanders and progressives to provide $2000 stimulus checks. As the poll Ian posted shows, the majority of Republicans side with Hawley. If he supports policies that provide tangible relief to Americans, he can also win over a significant number of Independents and a small number of Democrats.

Video of shooting looks squirrely.

I don’t have time to mess with this, but it looks like the shooter of Ashlie Babbit was aiming at chest level when he fired, but Ashlie had climbed onto something, and was a foot and a half into the air. Thus, the bullet should have hit her in the torso.

There is slowed down video at https://www.brighteon.com/22375a2f-1f93-44fe-8fb5-4a2d0b27298c . The muzzle flash is at 1:38. At 1:39, you can make out Ashli’e knee. The camera is panning to the right, probably from the same height (I assume the videographer is looking through a sighting device, but maybe not. )

You have to wonder, also, about the motivation of the shooter (assuming he really shot her), since there were armed SWAT people literally starting about 2 or 3 feet behind her. Maybe the shooter didn’t see them.

@Donald Trump,

Yes, but is it anti-Canadian?

BOO 85 years ago:

“What would you like us to say about the mostly-peaceful protestors with legitimate grievances at at that Nuremberg rally of great German Patriots?”

If you want to see a modern day fascist, BOO, all you need to do is to look in a mirror.

I was trying to be polite: you are a liar SB, Tulsi, and a cop-killer.

Go yap up someone else’s tree, pig bitch.

I’ve seen mention today of the “Silent 25th” — essentially cutting Trump out of the government loop without going through the formality of — ahem — dealing with non-functional Constitutional Remedies. “There’s no time,” after all. Supposedly, Pence is and has been since Wednesday, in charge of the Government. I have my doubts. I suspect, instead, that agency and department heads and sub-heads are essentially on their own to do whatever…

Meanwhile, Nancy is going ahead with her process fetish — Impeachment Part 2. Purely symbolic, and even she knows that. But for her and much of the rest of the Gerontocracy, it’s what you do, what you’re supposed to, the way you combat the Bad, Evil, Rs. Been that way since Reagan, or maybe Nixon.

Process will not save us. Nor will it save them.

The System is rotten, we know that, and this amateur assault on the Seat of Government, supposedly a failure, may be more consequential than any of us knows.

They shat in an office and tracked the brown stuff all over the place, after all. Shat! I’m sure they peed, too. (They couldn’t find the restrooms, and if they did, they couldn’t open the digital locks.)

While Ashli might not become a martyr, the woman who was trampled to death under her “Don’t Tread on Me” flag in the Rotunda just might. The Cause, after all, needs its Horst Wessel.

Antifa Did It!

As for “antifa”, I have little doubt they were involved. Some were in bloc, as they say, but see, so were the Proud Bois, and others were partly in, partly out of bloc, and anyone who’s any contact with Anti-Fascists and Black Bloc knows that the first to suggest/act on violence is the cop. And there are lots of provocateurs. No doubt there were on Wednesday, too. What happened might not have been organized, but it wasn’t entirely spontaneous, either. I bet there were few or no genuine Anti-Fascist activists among the multitude, however.

Congress is not going to be the same. I saw this happen on the state level, the fear of the public, the closing off and closing up, the security theater, the implication that The People are intrinsically a threat. Congress thought they had a sufficiently protective security bubble over them. They found out they don’t. That bubble was popped.

So. From here we are guaranteed to see a wider and wider gulf between those who govern us and the People. As government withdraws, the warlords will come to the fore. And many Americans will welcome them.

Hugh, what is it with your Nazi fixation? Come clean, are you part-Jewish? You must be mad that the system you profess to hate is obviously so terrified by our guys, while they are so patronizing of yours.

The thing to remember about Trump is there is no bottom. He lost an election because he was a lousy President. It didn’t stop him for a second. He started scores of baseless lawsuits whose only purpose was to inflame the situation and keep himself in the spotlight. Did that stop him? Of course not. With thousands dying every day from covid, he did nothing and simply ignored it. Did that stop him? Nope. Then he went on to try to extort the Georgia Secretary of State to cook the election results in his favor. And we have it on tape. Did that stop him? No way. He invites his most rabid supporters to Washington, incites them into a mob to attack the Capitol and Congress members, and tries to block deployment of National Guard to stop them. Will this stop him? Of course not. He has 12 days left. He has lots of time to pardon himself, his family, and all his crooked cronies. He has lots of time to do something really stupid and destructive. It’s why White House staff are disconnecting him from the levers of power or simply ignoring his orders. It’s why they went to Pence to get the authorization for the release of the National Guard. It’s why Pelosi is pushing impeachment. Everyone is looking for a way to keep Trump occupied until the 20th. Everyone knows that Trump is unfit, mentally unbalanced, even his enablers and sycophants. And an impeachment gets to put Republicans on the record on whether they still support this crazed insurrectionist or not.

I have said it before and I will say it again: What we are seeing is the very beginning of the break up of the United States. Of course, how that will play out and the length of time it will take is anyone’s guess. If history is a gauge empire breakup takes a bit of time. The more I watch the unfolding opinions on this situation the more confused I become. Depending on the spokesperson/writer it can be viewed as the most terrible threat to humanity in forever or insane comic opera. Check out the far right ravings of the Catholic website Lifesite and one will learn that four years of darkness await us, complete with persecution, imprisonment, and mass executions of the faithful. Sam Kriss has a hilarious article much closer to reality. In any event, here we are now.

If as some democrats say the republicans are planning mass violence it’s commonsense for democrats to prepare to defend themselves. Of course, many are, but too many are relying on those tried and true responses of call your congressmen and carry a picket sign. If the threat is so real that seems like a tepid response. I say one could reasonably do both. Well, to each his own.

Finally, there is no talking to the Trumpers and there never will be. Education won’t work because this group of folks has rejected education for the last. . .well, forever. For all his faults I’m glad Biden won, if only for the brief break he might give the country. But make no mistake, a brief break is all we will get. The lines are drawn, I’m afraid. The country, which never really was that united, will not even be able to fall back on the mythology of a UNITED States.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLp1gwrat5g&ab_channel=TimPool

The purges have begun and as usual are counter-productive. You back people into a corner, you make their choice for them.

My mother who backed Biden even believes he will actually do stuff to help, never mind he had a filibuster proof Congress for several months in 08 and neither he or Obama did anything. Reagan had a Democratic Congress and he bitch slapped them in line with his goals, so Obama has no excuse for his inaction. Biden will do nothing substantive, he will pour gasoline on the fire, and people will be shocked, shocked I say at his inaction and fecklessness.

Another take:

Trump was railing, in real time, on Pence on twitter.
Pence was one of the first ones Secret Service suddenly grabbed and got out of there while he was about to seal Trump’s fate. There also seem to be insider reports of trump being basically unhinged, and unreachable, by staff during same time frame.
Then boom, general evac, and shortly after goons entering with zip ties.

I think he was going to let it go, but an insider dropped the dime on his ‘unreachability’ during the crisis. Theoretical plan failed, Trump then goes out and tries to placate the crowd and the troops show up. He set it up for maximum awkwardness like he always does, and then was going to sit back and see what fell out of it that he could use to his maximum benefit. All the while, drawing a tighter and tighter circle of brownshirts to him.

He’s a classic bully. They don’t long range plan well b/c they’ve never needed to in their past. Bullies are opportunists. They rough you up and opportunistically steal what falls out of your pockets.I suspect he’ll be working to benefit from what fell out of his shakedown for some time to come.

The fact that the capital was undefended was due to a lack of serious intelligence gathering, & the fact that the DC mayor and most of the Feds did not want a repeat of last summers engagements. Acting on intelligence is supposed to be an executive branch thing, but really when has trump ever put any effort into anything. The real issue is a few politicians knew all of this and just let it play out. Ask Gaius Julius Caesar if politics is not a blood sport. There’s at least 3 levels of chess being played out here. Trump gone ‘cause the oligarchs have had enough of him. Biden isn’t going to rock their boat. Oh, least I forget of the 127 people arrested so far all have a $100k income or more. Not exactly the downtrodden we are talking about here. COSbois playing combat. To be clear 75 million votes for trump out if a population of 350 million, is 21% of the population. If only have 1/2 agreeing to ongoing GOP stupidity that’s 1 in 10. Not much of a fearsome horde.

Indeed we are a country that can’t get anything done, at all. This doesn’t bode well. But if it can’t be monetized then it never will in this incarnation. No one, has in history, ever given the poor and working classes anything. It’s only when the middle class has that final bit taken away does really change occur. I say simply, & regret there will be blood.

@Bruce Wilder,

I don’t know if new commenter Thomas Golladay is a True Believer or a very skilled and very high concept troll. It is certainly brazenly slick of him to regret the general disregard for truth on all sides in hopes that we will not notice his own disregard for truth.

But is he one of Trump’s millions-in-mid-psychotic-break? Does he believe in the Stolen Election Hoax as truly as the PKKKs believe in the Trump Russia Collusion Hoax?

Sometimes he says things that seem designed to elicit a troll-feeding response. The Holocausted Jews of Europe could all have saved themselves if only they would have had what it takes to leave their homes and go live in the woods? Does he really believe that? That many Jews? That little woods? With a whole German Army ready to comb the woods or burn it down to get them all anyway?

He has the ability to save himself and his family by going offgrid to live in the woods? Really?
For years at a time?

I think he is here to just wind us up.

@different clue

I don’t care what you think. And you don’t care what I think. Facts are still facts, Biden stole the election and the Establishment GOP helped him to do it by blocking Transparent Audits and preventing evidence from being shown in Court by saying they lack Standing to sue and overriding lower courts who let evidence to be shown, stopping the discovery process. Governors sent their Legislatures home and refused their request to re-convene. Counties refused Legislature Subpoenas to Audit the results and shredded ballots in violation of the law.

You are a useful fool for the Establishment. You deserve them.

Recent events are just another skirmish in Post-bellum Redemption. Plantation society and its aristocrats have morphed a bit into upper middle class white society, explaining the high income aspects of the rowdies that flew to DC and got rooms at the Willard. As in the 1880s and beyond, they borrowed the rough manners of the white lower classes to seize the power they believe they are, by ancestry and heritage, entitled to. How ironic that the attempted seizure of the national government happened on the day that a Negro and a Jew became Senators, and from one of the Confederate states. I recommend that you never forget the history which is not repeating but is definitely rhyming in recent days.

@Thomas Golladay,

Thank you for your interest in my comment. I am always happy to hear from you. Please let me know if you have any other concerns.

I don’t always agree with b, [about 85% of the time I do], as a consequence, I have been banned [and recently un-banned], that said, his blog shows a differing opinion from what is almost universally acclaimed in this sea of propaganda we are forced to swim in. Worth a read.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/01/by-calling-trump-supporter-terrorists-joe-biden-will-likely-create-some/comments/page/2/#comments

It’s like with climate change denial. They know they can’t attack the one and only scientific argument, CO2 from humans, so they try to gum up the works with hundreds of plausibilities and conspiracy theories. Besides seeming dishonest to me, it seems desperate. And a little batshit crazy too.

I try to get them to demonstrate absolute and conclusive proof from a reliable source. Not Dr. Steve Turley or some disgruntled layman claiming to have stayed in a hotel for scientists, once.

Prove to us that China, Bill Gates, Hugo Chavez, Smartmatic, Pence, Pelosi, Soros, the Clintons, the Bushes, thousands of election representatives from every possible party, state judges and national judges like Diana Ross and the Supremes Court… are all in cahoots together and in such secret that a kraken wouldn’t possibly know where to be unleashed. Prove it with credibility.

I do agree with calling them terrorists, even though there are scores of videos taken by the “protesters” themselves, where they openly talk of finding and killing Pence and Pelosi, wearing “CIVIL WAR” shirts, the rebirth of the confederacy and Nazism, destroying our Capitol, Qanon, and violent revolution… while erecting crosses and wearing horns. We must not hurt their feelings. Instead, I’d call them brainwashed yahoos with too much anti-socialist angst on their hands.

Above NR,

One our election year political hacks says, that the election was beyond reproach [a first in American history !] and that factoid has “has been proven over and over and over again” even though this election, unlike the last election, which was investigated for almost four years, has never seen any adjudication other than it’s neoD beneficiaries stating that it was beyond question and that no investigation should be allowed.

Stalin would be proud of NR and his crowd.

S Brennan,

This election was adjudicated over 60 times. Try again.

I challenge S Brennan.

The next time he goes to a Trump rally/protest/revolution of any kind, that he wears a coat with a very conspicuous “FDR” printed on it, with a picture of FDR under it. Bonus points if he wears a cap with the text “Tulsi Gabbard” on it.

And please, when you post us your obligatory “selfie with a cop”, be sure we can see all your smiling friends and their MAGA hats, confederate flags and neo-Nazi Proud Boy paraphernalia.

The rest of us need to know that we’re all in this together.

I love the lies coming out of Trumpers mouth stating antifa were the cause of this. The same Trumpists who for weeks were stating it out in the open that they were going to storm the Capitol building whether on Parler, 4chan, the Donald etc etc etc And the rw echo chamber will always lie to take the heat off from themselves if they’re put in a bad light. What’s even dumber are so many of them were livestreaming themselves committing the act because their brand is to be Trump loyalists for whatever social media clout and payday they get. Truly the dumbest timeline with the dumbest President.

Beau seems the intelligent “show me” southerner who isn’t easily fooled. Dusty Smith from Mississippi is similar, though somewhat more backwoods. His analysis of the many obscure videos he finds from the world of the reactionary conservative is pretty common sensical.

So among the cosplayers and Trump-fest revelers at the Capitol Dustup were real golpistas who had been openly planning for months to storm the Capitol, take hostages, and perhaps perform acts of “trial and execution” of members of Congress and even the Vice President of the United States of America (LLC) in order to get their way.

They didn’t succeed. It may have been a “failure by strategy” however, in that the point may have been to show themselves and let it be known that they had every intention of ultimately prevailing.

Given how sclerotic and nearly-nonfunction our governing class is, they might just, too.

I note with interest that Nancy doesn’t seem to think the events of Wednesday are enough of an emergency to immediately introduce impeachment 2 resolutions. Monday is soon enough, no? And of course, nothing can be voted on before Wednesday next. And then of course the Senate will cavil and huffnpuff, and then, well, “We did what we could…” Process above all!

Sigh.

For most of us, of course, life goes on, sputtering and coughing. For ever greater numbers of us, life does not go on, however. The list of folks we know who have died during the pandemic or who have had the disease is growing longer and longer. And it will keep growing whether there is a successful overthrow of the diseased and rotten government in DC or no.

Apart from Power, raw and naked, what do the golpistas want?

Z– a lot of the gear that was on display wasn’t cheap. Moreover, exit polling show that Trump won the over $100,000 a year vote and lost the vote of those making < $100,000 a year. A lot of those guys had money, or were being supported by people who did have lots of money.

Here's a video of the guy with zipties to use as handcuffs dressed in full military gear at the Grand Hyatt. Do you think he's poor?

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347699892421062659?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1347710600298770434%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es2_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2021%2F1%2F8%2F2007305%2F-Here-s-a-roundup-of-people-getting-arrested-for-their-part-in-Trump-s-failed-revolt

There were also Republican officials and prominent party members from various states amongst the rioters. There was the son of a New York superior court judge present.

Trailer park people, by contrast, don't even have the $ to travel to DC, let alone stay at ritzy hotels.

The attack was as successful as it was, I think, as the defenses were deliberately made too weak to resist. If you want to assassinate a leader, as one saying goes, you don't have to corrupt his/her guard, just make sure it's not there at the key time. That almost happened; the rioters were minutes away from getting to the Chambers to take hostages, and possibly execute them.

Let's compare the BLM protest this past summer in DC vs the Trump Coup attempt:

https://twitter.com/ajplus/status/1347565725863596032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1347565725863596032%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2021%2F1%2F8%2F2007305%2F-Here-s-a-roundup-of-people-getting-arrested-for-their-part-in-Trump-s-failed-revolt

6/1/2020

1 block away from the White House
No attempt to breach building
5,000 National Guard mobilized
289 arrests

01/06/2021

Broke into Capitol apparently plans to execute Congresscritters
Offices vandalized and property stolen, one officer killed
Pipe bombs planted
Only 340 National Guardsmen on-hand (and late coming, due to the refusal of Trump's new stooge appointees in the Pentagon to release them)
82 arrests

And for those who think "this wasn't a coup", there's this scene of Trump's allies in the White House bunker watching on the Teevees the unfolding events:

https://twitter.com/trom771/status/1347266916012990476

This was a coup attempt, pure and simple, and I see some here are still in "protect-Trump-at-all-costs" denial. It was to be their Reicshstag Fire.

Nor are things over.

Apart from the obvious Trolls, TG & SB etc. who many others have called out, I continue to appreciate the comment board here for a generally intelligent take.

The biggest red flag I see above comes from those saying give Hawley a 2nd chance as he has sided with Bernie on $2K checks.

Let’s recall our history– the German Reich was taken over by National “Socialists”– the Socialist feint was quickly dropped to serve Capital, as right wingers always do. Also, pencil-neck Hawley throwing his little fist in the air just before the Capitol attack is a reminder about aspirational fascists, little men (a la Wilhelm Reich and others’ psychological observations) who want to picture themselves as powerful killing-machines. Charlie Kirk and plenty of other wannabes are seen on the right fringes playing the same overcompensation game.

These people have no human decency, they are hungry ghosts who will do anything to feed the endless void inside them, just like Dear Leader Trump . . . btw, sorry for 2x bringing in the Nazis in commentary but at this time sadly it is evidently relevant. But as several commenters note above, America is no longer the competent machine that FDR, Truman et al ran in the 40s to 50s, much less the orderly, obedient “good Germans” who made up the Reich when it began. It is a failed state of disconnected alienated denizens of Social Media dominated by an increasingly small, insular and uncaring Ruling Class which has little idea of what pain the majority of the populace now feels.

At least the good news is– if Joe and his Obama style Cold Warriors attempt to get the global War and Terror Machine up and running to attack the Chinese, Iranians or whomever, that will be a massive FAIL and will hasten the end of US Gov’t. 1.0 which we all see coming.

@Anon,

I used to read Dmitri Orlov before he paywalled himself. He did some good work at the time.
I too feel confident that he is laughing and smirking.

He is a Russian Nationalist. He may live long enough to see 500 million Chinese and 500 million Indians seek to move to Russia to escape the Global Hotting. And the parts of Russia which the Russian elites dream will turn into a tropical paradise will probably turn into a burn barrel instead. I hope Orlov lives long enough to see it. It would be amusing to see him laughing out the other side of his ass when that happens.